Roughing the Passer calls

[juny]

Refs playing favorites? C'mon, Vick - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN

This link shows that Vick is wrong statistically. Also of note, is that Brady is near the bottom of the list, so now I can tell other teams fans to shut up if they think Brady/Manning get preferential treatment.

I live in Raven country and it is so annoying to hear that Brady gets all the calls .. blah blah blah. Those fans are almost as bad as Jets fans.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Talking about this call, can someone get a video of the call they made on Love against the Bill? I thought it was a perfect play.

 

[Gumby]

The rules are not the same when a quarterback leaves the pocket and throws on the run?

Two specific rules no longer apply. In the pocket, there is the one-step rule. After the QB releases the pass, a rushing defender is allowed one step before making contact. If the contact comes simultaneous or after the second step hits the ground, it is deemed to be late and is a foul. Of course, the rules pertaining to helmet contact still apply even within the two steps. In the pocket, a rushing defender cannot initiate contact in the knee area or below. Neither of these rules apply outside the pocket when the QB is throwing while on the run, which is only fair being that defenders don’t know at that point whether he is going to run or pass.

funny; I don't remember our D guys getting that one step. They seem to get flags when they are anywhere near the qb w/ the ball.

 

[oldskool138]

Talking about this call, can someone get a video of the call they made on Love against the Bill.

The Bill? Belichick?

 

[Seacoast Fan]

interesting article and stats, but it only goes so far.
What that list doesn't take in to account, so far as I can tell, is the quickness with which a QB gets rid of the ball. My guess is that Brady and Manning are way down ion the list because they are great at seeing (or, sensing) pressure and they get rid of the ball so quickly.
If the article was, RTP calls per the # of times the QB is hit, as opposed to RTP calls per passing atempts, then that might show a bit better whether some QBS get the calls more often.
I think it is wrong to say the top QBs get the RTP call more often, and the list seems to support that to a certain degree, but I don't think the list ends the debate.
Also interesting the article talks about how you can't hit the QB in the knees while rushing in the pocket, and of course there was that horrendous hit on Brady two weeks ago...with no call.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

Talking about this call, can someone get a video of the call they made on Love against the Bill? I thought it was a perfect play.

I only saw the replay once during the TV broadcast, and it sure looked good to me. The announcer said ( I believe) that he was flagged for hands to the face but the replay didn't show that. The only thing I could figure was, maybe Love pile-drove him into the ground.

 

[Sfpat]

I only saw the replay once during the TV broadcast, and it sure looked good to me. The announcer said ( I believe) that he was flagged for hands to the face but the replay didn't show that. The only thing I could figure was, maybe Love pile-drove him into the ground.

Unfortunately, many times the refs are calling what they thought they saw, not what actually happened. There should be guidance where, if there is any doubt, then it is no penalty.

 

[juny]

interesting article and stats, but it only goes so far.
What that list doesn't take in to account, so far as I can tell, is the quickness with which a QB gets rid of the ball. My guess is that Brady and Manning are way down ion the list because they are great at seeing (or, sensing) pressure and they get rid of the ball so quickly.
If the article was, RTP calls per the # of times the QB is hit, as opposed to RTP calls per passing atempts, then that might show a bit better whether some QBS get the calls more often.
I think it is wrong to say the top QBs get the RTP call more often, and the list seems to support that to a certain degree, but I don't think the list ends the debate.
Also interesting the article talks about how you can't hit the QB in the knees while rushing in the pocket, and of course there was that horrendous hit on Brady two weeks ago...with no call.

Yeah it was a bad no call but the league corrected itself by fining Garay.

Source: Ninkovich gets $15K fine - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

So far no fine for Love, so the league, indirectly, is saying they screwed up on Love.