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I don't get the reference to the Colts jerseys. Can someone explain that?

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Pats1 hinted he might root for the Colts if Saurbrun was signed, though he left himself lots and lots of wiggle room. The real tragedy is poor Clonamery who left no wiggle room in his antipathy to Saurbrun - he will now be forced to hang out with relatives and root for Eli. The good news, the Gi-ants are not long for this season at current production, so we'll probably get Clonamery back by the Divisional round at the latest. A truly tragic circumstance...
 
Pats1 hinted he might root for the Colts if Saurbrun was signed, though he left himself lots and lots of wiggle room. The real tragedy is poor Clonamery who left no wiggle room in his antipathy to Saurbrun - he will now be forced to hang out with relatives and root for Eli. The good news, the Gi-ants are not long for this season at current production, so we'll probably get Clonamery back by the Divisional round at the latest. A truly tragic circumstance...

Actually, to be honest (and I haven't mentioned prior to avoid being castigated for watching or attending anymore games) I have seen exactly 4 games on TV so far this year.....so by NOT watching anymore games and giving into my superstitions while claiming integrity and self-righteousness, it's a win-win for the Pats and myself.
 
Actually, to be honest (and I haven't mentioned prior to avoid being castigated for watching or attending anymore games) I have seen exactly 4 games on TV so far this year.....so by NOT watching anymore games and giving into my superstitions while claiming integrity and self-righteousness, it's a win-win for the Pats and myself.

A sacrifice I would be unable to make.
You Da Man!
 
A sacrifice I would be unable to make.
You Da Man!

Trust me, I had seriously contemplated making no attempt to watch any Pats game after the Jets loss (my 3rd viewing this year, not including preseason which also were losses) that I twice refused an invitation to a friend's house to watch the Miami game. I finally relented by that Saturday and by halftime I could have (and should have) committed hari-kari as well as slaughtered any of the smirking fin fans.

Please don't ask to have me banned here as it will have to slake my Pats thirst.
 
I'm not going to feel good about this if we meet Denver in the playoffs. Hopefully BB keeps him the rest of the season instead of him becoming another Brooks Bernard.

If you want some reason to hate this signing, here ya go:

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_4498829
 
This was posted at the Planet but without a link I'm not sure where it came from:

"Sauerbrun has experience as a holder, although Belichick said that doesn't mean he will hold in Sunday's game. Belichick said the team's quarterbacks and practice squad punters had been holding in practice."

That is probably why Andy Hart was assuming it will be Cassel at least for this week. Another Planet poster said Matt had held at USC and volunteered to step in if needed.
 
I'm not going to feel good about this if we meet Denver in the playoffs. Hopefully BB keeps him the rest of the season instead of him becoming another Brooks Bernard.

If you want some reason to hate this signing, here ya go:

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_4498829

Some good old New England KOOL AID will change all of that, oh yeah and a certain piece of jewlery too.
 
There's a good bio on Wikipedia. Here's an excerpt:

Carolina is where Sauerbrun achieved his greatest success, as well as his biggest problems. He was picked for the Pro Bowl to represent the NFC in the 2002, 2003, and 2004 seasons. Sauerbrun also became the first player from either conference since the AFL-NFL Merger in 1970 to lead his conference in gross punting average for three consecutive seasons (2001-2003). However, during the 2004 season, the Panthers were riddled with injuries, and at one point, starting placekicker John Kasay suffered a leg injury, and the Panthers were forced to use Sauerbrun to replace Kasay. Sauerbrun refused to kick unless he was reimbursed for fines he incurred when he was overweight. In December 2004, he was charged with DWI, and he was recently named in an investigation of steroids use in the NFL linked to a Carolina doctor during the 2004-05 season. Sauerbrun has also been known for his long-standing feud with the Gramatica brothers, who are placekickers in the NFL, and why he was forced to be their kicker when Kasay got injured, as he refused to allow the Panthers to bring them in for tryouts. On May 19, 2005, Sauerbrun was traded to the Denver for punter Jason Baker and a 7th round draft pick in the 2006 draft. On July 7, 2006, Sauerbrun was suspended for the four games of the NFL season after testing positive for the banned supplement ephedra. On Tuesday, October 17, 2006, the day he was supposed to come back from his suspension, Denver cut him, favoring Paul Ernster.

One of Todd Sauerbrun's most notable NFL career moments so far occurred during the AFC Divisional Playoffs on January 14, 2006, when, in a rare move for a team punter, he managed to tackle New England Patriots returner Ellis Hobbs after his own kickoff and actually forced a fumble, which was recovered by his teammate, Cecil Sapp. This eventually led to a Broncos touchdown, which helped Denver defeat the Patriots 27-13, ending New England's bid for an unprecedented three consecutive Super Bowl victories.
 
Ah yes, the Hobbs tackle, that alone would make BB give him a look - BB always likes opponents who can bring it in crunch time.
 
Well I'm happy.

The guy has a 44.0 career average. 43.8 last year (admittedly in Denver but he has a 44.1 average the year before for Carolina) and a 36.0 career gross - last two years higher than that.

2.4 IN 20/TB ratio and that was 3.5 the last two years.

Since 2001 Walter's gross has been 33.3.

Miller's numbers compare very similar to Sauerbrun's. Walter's placement is noticeably better than either one. That's OK with me. While I love to have a punt downed at the 8, I would prefer a few extra to go into the end zone when punting from the 40 than to have a 25 yard punt from our 15. Our defense is fine is a team has to go from it's own 20. But having them start at midfield is tough even on our defense.

Basically we're back to where we were before Miller got hurt - and thank God for that.
 
I'm not going to feel good about this if we meet Denver in the playoffs. Hopefully BB keeps him the rest of the season instead of him becoming another Brooks Bernard.

If you want some reason to hate this signing, here ya go:
He's punting for his NFL career. He's not going to shank one on purpose, against Denver or anyone else.
 
This is best signing since Seau. Filling a starting position at this point with an experienced veteran is impressive. To fill the position with one of the very top players in the league at this position is amazing.

Welcome aboard!

He may hold this week, but I suspect that the caoches will wait a week.
 
Well I'm happy.

The guy has a 44.0 career average. 43.8 last year (admittedly in Denver but he has a 44.1 average the year before for Carolina) and a 36.0 career gross - last two years higher than that.

2.4 IN 20/TB ratio and that was 3.5 the last two years.

Since 2001 Walter's gross has been 33.3.

Miller's numbers compare very similar to Sauerbrun's. Walter's placement is noticeably better than either one. That's OK with me. While I love to have a punt downed at the 8, I would prefer a few extra to go into the end zone when punting from the 40 than to have a 25 yard punt from our 15. Our defense is fine is a team has to go from it's own 20. But having them start at midfield is tough even on our defense.

Basically we're back to where we were before Miller got hurt - and thank God for that.
Thanks for doing and sharing the research. I agree with your assessment of his physical abilities:

Sauerbrun = Miller > Walter

My only concern with the guy is character. As someone posted in the other Sauerbrun thread, he has strong feelings of loyalty to the Broncs. Between that and some of the other things in his past (banned substance, feuding with Grammaticas and fighting with Cats management about them, etc.) I hope we can trust him to put the team's interests first, especially if we happen to meet Denver in the playoffs. Can you imagine if we were leading late in the game, trying to run out the clock, and had to punt from our own half of the field? Could we trust him not to intentionally shank a 20 yard punt?
 
He's punting for his NFL career. He's not going to shank one on purpose, against Denver or anyone else.
Oops - I didn't see this before my last post. I hope you're right, but I don't see how you can be so sure.
 
Oops - I didn't see this before my last post. I hope you're right, but I don't see how you can be so sure.
Of course I can't be sure. But most players on the team didn't grow up as Patriots' fans. I realize people are just going with his supposed character issue but it's no different to me than Brady playing against the 49ers, his favorite team growing up. Or pick your player. They're playing for themselves, their families and their next contract. A good post season gives him another shot at good money for a couple more year.
 
[/INDENT]My only concern with the guy is character. As someone posted in the other Sauerbrun thread, he has strong feelings of loyalty to the Broncs.

It's very odd that anyone gets cut and openly declares their admiration for the team that cut him. The other statement about being "glad" if any OTHER team did it just goes to show he is, for lack of a better term, a 'punk'.

From a football perspective he is a good replacement, but T.O. would have been a good pickup with that logic.
 
From a football perspective he is a good replacement, but T.O. would have been a good pickup with that logic.
But he's the Punter. Owens is a different matter, you have to worry about him sulking if he's not getting the ball enough, etc, etc. Sauerbrun just has to kick the ball a few times a game.
 
This is best signing since Seau. Filling a starting position at this point with an experienced veteran is impressive. To fill the position with one of the very top players in the league at this position is amazing.

Welcome aboard!

He may hold this week, but I suspect that the caoches will wait a week.

If it is Cassel, as most suspect - including Reiss in his chat just now, they may just stick with him for continuity providing it goes well. Plus with a QB holding. not to mention a mobile one, there is always the then more viable option of the fake punt.

As for this signing, I think it was a reluctant decision at best or it would have happened days (if not weeks) ago at the very least. Character does matter to these guys, it's just they are up against it late in the season. I wouldn't expect to see him back for a full season even if Miller's return were to become questionable.
 
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