Which vets could be surprise cuts?

[Fencer]

Returning vets on the wrong side of the bubble

Which returning veterans who are still with the Pats do you think are in their last month with the team? Some of my thoughts include:

CB: At least one of Butler/Wilhite is likely gone by the numbers. Wilhite seems to be the yet worse of the two.

S: McGowan, Lockett, and Brown are still hanging around, right? One or two will likely be gone, unless you think Sanders or Meriweather will. I don't have a strong opinion as to which.

LB: White is back for now, but there's always doubt about ST-only vets. Otherwise, the cutting may already have happened. Oh, yeah -- Murrell ...

DL: Deaderick seemed to have work ethic issues last year, and there's doubt about his work ethic during the labor stoppage as well. Whoops. I don't have an opinion about the rest of the guys caught in the numbers game.

OL: No opinion.

TE: Cut already happened.

WR: Slater seems like a keeper. But one of Tate/Price/Edelman goes, and I'm voting Tate.

RB: Not obvious that anybody goes. Morris could start the season on the roster with Faulk on PUP. But I'm guessing Morris goes.

QB: Cuts are unlikely.

Specialist: Graham being gone was the only cut needed or likely.

 

[Tyler.Durden]

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I think they like tate as a return man, just got a wr ocho. so i think price would be on bubble.

yea, i like Deaderick as well, i think he will stick.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

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I think they like tate as a return man, just got a wr ocho. so i think price would be on bubble.

yea, i like Deaderick as well, i think he will stick.

Why would they toss Price who has yet to play a game and has had a good camp report?

I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

 

[Fencer]

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I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

Scott O'Brien's raves about Slater in a recent interview give me some optimism that he sticks.

Yeah, I know that's BB's kiss of death, but still ...

 

[townes]

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M Slater

S Morris

R Wendell

M LeVoir

J Wilhite

B Deaderick

B McGowan

 

[BradyFTW!]

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Why would they toss Price who has yet to play a game and has had a good camp report?

I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

Technically, Price played in week 17 last year, and fwiw he had a pretty good game. I'm with you though, I would be very surprised if he got cut.

 

[DarrylS]

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I think Guyton.. weak in the run and difficulty in coverage of TE's.

 

[ortiz34]

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I think Guyton.. weak in the run and difficulty in coverage of TE's.

Agreed with weaknesses, however he's not a vet, comes cheap and is a decent rotational LB IMO. Belicheck seems to like Guyton

 

[patsfan-1982]

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i dont see a need for Morris or Faulk on this team

 

[PatsBoy12]

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I think Guyton.. weak in the run and difficulty in coverage of TE's.

I agree that he's all of those things, but there is almost no way he gets cut.

 

[patchick]

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RB: Not obvious that anybody goes. Morris could start the season on the roster with Faulk on PUP. But I'm guessing Morris goes.

If Vereen can get back on the practice field soon, I'll say they start the season with 4 RBs + Medelin on the practice squad and Faulk on PUP.

I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

Every year, Slater's demise is predicted. And every year, Slater makes the active 45 for every single game, barring injury. He's the team's best gunner, so unless you do away with ST specialists altogether (hard to imagine), I'd think he stays.

 

[DarrylS]

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Agreed with weaknesses, however he's not a vet, comes cheap and is a decent rotational LB IMO. Belicheck seems to like Guyton

Everyone loves his story, but in this meritocracy he many be odd man out..

BB liked Vrabel also...

 

[DaBruinz]

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Which returning veterans who are still with the Pats do you think are in their last month with the team? Some of my thoughts include:

CB: At least one of Butler/Wilhite is likely gone by the numbers. Wilhite seems to be the yet worse of the two. Probably Wilhite from the camp reports.

S: McGowan, Lockett, and Brown are still hanging around, right? One or two will likely be gone, unless you think Sanders or Meriweather will. I don't have a strong opinion as to which. So is Josh Barnett. Meriweather seems to have been drawing a lot of ire.. Both from the coaching staff and his teammates from the practice reports... Pats will likely keep 4..

LB: White is back for now, but there's always doubt about ST-only vets. Otherwise, the cutting may already have happened. Oh, yeah -- Murrell ...Murrell is some whose name hasn't been mentioned at all. I think it's highly unlikely that White is gone unless Tarpanian really turns it up on special teams.. But, it is only the 1st week.

DL: Deaderick seemed to have work ethic issues last year, and there's doubt about his work ethic during the labor stoppage as well. Whoops. I don't have an opinion about the rest of the guys caught in the numbers game. You're the first person I've heard mention that Deaderick may not have done the necessary things during the off-season. He did pass the Conditioning run on the first go around..

OL: No opinion.

TE: Cut already happened. Which cut was that? They still have Carson Butler and Yeatman in camp. They aren't likely to carry 4, let alone 5 TEs

WR: Slater seems like a keeper. But one of Tate/Price/Edelman goes, and I'm voting Tate. Slater is a keeper, but for his STs play. Not his WR play. The Pats kept 6 WR all year with Price on the bench. How has Tate looking during kick returns??

RB: Not obvious that anybody goes. Morris could start the season on the roster with Faulk on PUP. But I'm guessing Morris goes.

QB: Cuts are unlikely.

Specialist: Graham being gone was the only cut needed or likely.

Graham was gone at the end of the season being that he was a UFA. They also brought in that one kid from UMASS. He's not likely to make the team..

Has anyone but Matt Katula taken snaps as the long snapper?

As for RB, if Kettani is able, I could see the Pats keeping him as the FB and letting Morris go..

 

[scout]

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Why would they toss Price who has yet to play a game and has had a good camp report?

I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

I see Ocho being cut before Price.

 

[italia44]

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Graham was gone at the end of the season being that he was a UFA. They also brought in that one kid from UMASS. He's not likely to make the team..

Has anyone but Matt Katula taken snaps as the long snapper?

As for RB, if Kettani is able, I could see the Pats keeping him as the FB and letting Morris go..

I think Ninko was taking reps as LS,when Kettani was hurt.

 

[Ring 6]

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I think Guyton.. weak in the run and difficulty in coverage of TE's.

Guyton covers TEs better than any LB we have, not that we assign LBs man to man coverage on TEs more than extremely rare occasions.

 

[DaBruinz]

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Guyton covers TEs better than any LB we have, not that we assign LBs man to man coverage on TEs more than extremely rare occasions.

Not based on the reports coming out of camp and not based on what I saw last year on the field. Fletcher is far better in coverage than Guyton.

 

[Ring 6]

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Why would they toss Price who has yet to play a game and has had a good camp report?

I think Slater is on the Bubble....a one trick pony at STs is not irreplaceable

Who will replace the replacable Slater as the top special teamer on the squad?

 

[jah]

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I predict the demise of the following:

-Faulk/Morris (probably only one RB, BB seems to like keeping 5 even though I disagree--he knows better of course )
-Tate/Branch (one of two)
-Brace/Deaderick (one of two)
-Wilhite/Butler (both could be cut, there were only 4 CBs on the roster for a good amount of 2010)
-cutting down to four safeties, and I think the survivors will be Meriweather, Chung, Brown, and McGowan. Sanders has quite a high salary and I don't know how much better he is than Brown (the advantage would be in age and salary) or McGowan.

I see Slater staying because Slater always stays. I'm probably going to be wrong with every single thing I predicted in this post.

 

[PatsBoy12]

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Not based on the reports coming out of camp and not based on what I saw last year on the field. Fletcher is far better in coverage than Guyton.

I was going to post something similar. If Guyton is the best we have, which he very well could be, then we're in trouble if we're going to rely on LBs to cover TEs.