thesmee1
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It cracks me up when 'protestants' moan about Catholicism. Everything they believe sprang from Catholicism at some point. If protestantism really wanted to be legit, it would reject all endorsed Catholic teachings/ideas (including saints, church history, biblical translations, creeds, holidays, etc.) pending scholarly review of pre-church Christianity. Instead Methodists still recite the Nicene Creed and the Apostles' Creed and most denominations still do the rite of communion at least once a month and believe Easter falls on the Catholic-appointed day of the year...
Luther and his followers didn't go far enough, IMO. Puritanism was the only protestant movement I have much respect for but I think that's collectively the most terrible set of ideas to force on people.
I understand where you're coming from,3 to be 4. It's just that some folks from the interdenominational church seem to get over zealous. I have a question, though. How do you feel about evangelizing overseas? A few years back, 2 women were taken hostage over in Afghanistan because of evangelizing. My opinion of that is that they never should've been there in the first place.
Catholic's where the first Christians, wern't they?
well, its certainly not always safe, but that is the passion many people have and its what the Lord leads them to do, so i admire them very much.
Now if you mean, by them being over there, and getting captured, so that our soldiers then have to risk themselves to try saving them that is a very valid point. Its almost a political question at that point. If they asked by the military to not do that in war situation for the safety of all concerned then they probably should heed that warning.
I want to say that the Coptic Christians were the first. I'm probably wrong, though. I believe they have a sect over in Egypt. I find this fascinating though, that the majority of the fundamentalists, ( not all, ) believe that their way is the only way, and that all others are doomed. I have a friend who's a fundamentalist. I'm Catholic, and she invited me to visit her church, which I did. It was an evening service, and a kid about 12 was going to be baptized. The pastor asked him why he wanted to be baptized, and he replied, ' I saw the movie " Left Behind " and I don't want to be left behind.'
I sat there in utter shock that his parents would let him watch that movie at his age, and that this child was so scared from retribution from God that he felt compelled to do this. Myself, I think God made all these different religions to make the world interesting. Of course their are ultra- right wingers in all things that we do, including religion.
careful with labeling and generalizing. Many people who believe in the Word of the Bible and of Heaven and Hell are liberals. 40% of self-proclaimed Christians are Democrats. 80% of Black Christians are Democrats. Have you ever gone to a blow the roof off Gospel singing Black Church? Those people are hardly "right-wingers" and believe me, you are going to hear the Pastor talking very clearly about Heaven and Hell.
I am also not impressed by isolated examples of "I saw this" or "I saw that".
this society is totally permeated with far more outrageous behavior by secular parents who allow their children to be exposed to violence,sex, and downright evil messages that are now accepted as "normal".
I went to a "community theatre" production to see my teenage neice and had the privilage of watching kids ages 12 through 18 perform a play about kids stabbing each other, drowning each other, hanging small children, and mixing it in jokes about "oooh careful, we dont want offend any Christians out there"
this was before I became a Christian and I knew it was Satanic!
and the most shocking part? everyone in the audience accept me and my elderly mother thought it was all wonderful and hysterical.
so you want stories of evil you've witnessed, read your headlines everyday.
and it goes much farther than parents sitting around watching South Park with their 10 year old kids. People are out to lunch. And the kids today have no chance without the goodness of God in them. maybe if you are 22 or 28 you cant see it because you grew up with it and think its normal.
But give me that kid 12 year old who loves the Lord and 100 like him over 100 kids raised by the standards of this society where evil is funny, life is discarded without thought, and decency and humanity a joke.
I want to say that the Coptic Christians were the first. I'm probably wrong, though. I believe they have a sect over in Egypt. I find this fascinating though, that the majority of the fundamentalists, ( not all, ) believe that their way is the only way, and that all others are doomed. I have a friend who's a fundamentalist. I'm Catholic, and she invited me to visit her church, which I did. It was an evening service, and a kid about 12 was going to be baptized. The pastor asked him why he wanted to be baptized, and he replied, ' I saw the movie " Left Behind " and I don't want to be left behind.'
I sat there in utter shock that his parents would let him watch that movie at his age, and that this child was so scared from retribution from God that he felt compelled to do this. Myself, I think God made all these different religions to make the world interesting. Of course their are ultra- right wingers in all things that we do, including religion.
You can't answer my question, can you? You know there's an agenda by the fundamentalists against Buddhists. Evangelicals are intolerant towards the most pacifist,quiet religion. Why? I don't understand it, and need some clarification.
32B4's right.wasnt avoiding you. I had to go to work.
i have no agenda against anybody. I talk about ************. I dont spend time railing against other religions.
32B4's right.
I've never heard him criticize any other religion. He's only saying what he believes. All religions by their nature demand that any adherent to that religion believe that their religion is the only possible truth. How else can it be a serious religion?
...it would be easy to be that ordinary, run of the mill, Christian of the world. But that is not what Jesus asked of us. That is not what the disciples, who went to horrible deaths, did. And that is what Christians of today are supposed to do. Go to church on Sunday, blend into the sinning world unnoticed, and just take the rewards of Salvation.
That is not a loving, Christ like thing to do. And if you read the New Testament thoroughly, you will see where im coming from.
Mty motives are only of Christs love. Reject it if you feel you must. But its important you understand where im coming from.
I totally understand you. I read the NT inside and out, up and down. I've read many essays in its interpretation. Aquinas, Campbell, some the best. I still don't believe in supernatural gods controlling time, fate, and the lives of men. I know you do, and your conviction and testimony is cool with me because you are as devout as I am. You just happen to be wrong and I am right. When discussing religion, that's about the size of it.
I do recognize and respect your devoutness. One of my best friends is a devout Rastafarian, and we enjoy much mutual respect for each other.
That's what I mean. I can read the Bible, and get one interpretation. My neighbor can read it, and get something totally different out of it. If you want to live by it, that's cool, but 3 to be 4 seems to think if you're not 'born again' and live by the Bible word for word, you can face eternity treading lava.
Luther definitely was a revolutionary, but in what way didn't he go far enough? I thought ex-communication was pushing the envelope a bit, for those times.