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Anyone want to mention Foxboro sellouts since Parcells. (1992, I think, but it may be 1991 or 1993. Someone will correct me.)

NEEDLE!!

The last time the Pats never soldout was in 1994.
 
Living on the other side of the world has it's positives and negatives. I've been spreading the good word of Boston sports following to all and sundry and most people are already aware of Boston vs New York, they aren't aware of the New England Patriots (outside of Brady mainly because of his wife), where they're from and who their rivals are.

The Pats are popular to me. That's all that matters.
 
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With two big signings, I would say right now it's 1.Red Sox/1a. Patriots. The Sox have done great this Summer and have more of a buzz compare to last year when they miss the playoffs. The Patriots second most well known player is Chad Ochocinco, given that Chad has tv show on MTV.
no quesion its the redsox. i love all four boston teams the same like they are my children but the sox are number 1 in the boston area. the redsox have been passed down from father to son since the early 1900s. i dont know why it matters anyway.
 
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Living on the other side of the world has it's positives and negatives. I've been spreading the good word of Boston sports following to all and sundry and most people are already aware of Boston vs New York, they aren't aware of the New England Patriots (outside of Brady mainly because of his wife), where they're from and who their rivals are.

The Pats are popular to me. That's all that matters.

Precisely. I could not care less how the oh so trendy Boston city academia rump swab types care about the BankofAmericaSox and their quest to buy another ring or whatever piece of crap the MLB hosers win.
 
Precisely. I could not care less how the oh so trendy Boston city academia rump swab types care about the BankofAmericaSox and their quest to buy another ring or whatever piece of crap the MLB hosers win.

The Pats are doing the exact same thing with signing Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth. And what wrong with academia? Are you a uneducated man? It's funny seeing the Pats fans whinning about the Sox buying the World Series, when the Patriots are trying to do the same thing.
 
no quesion its the redsox. i love all four the same like they are my children but the sox are number 1 in the boston area. the redsox have been passed down from father to son since the early 1900s.

LOL some people just don't understand that.

As arrogant new yorkers are, they will still admit their rankings are 1 yankees 2 knicks 3 giants 4 rangers 5 and the jets.

The pats right now are winners and most kids grew up with them always winning, BUT that 2008/2009 season showed just how fickle most of our fans are.


When the patriots are down by 3 scores before the half at home the crowd starts BOO loudly and began to leave (ie dolphins wildcat game)

When the sox are down by 4 the crowd still hangs in there until the final because they still think they could win.
 
The Pats are doing the exact same thing with signing Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth. And what wrong with academia? Are you a uneducated man? It's funny seeing the Pats fans whinning about the Sox buying the World Series, when the Patriots are trying to do the same thing.

No. Obviously you are innumerate (look it up). The Pats are NOT outspending their peers. In the NFL there is a salary cap. Look that up too.

I have multiple college degrees including graduate school where I graduated 1st in class FWIW.

Gawd, I hate MLB rump swabbies!
 
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The Pats are doing the exact same thing with signing Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth. And what wrong with academia? Are you a uneducated man? It's funny seeing the Pats fans whinning about the Sox buying the World Series, when the Patriots are trying to do the same thing.
An educated fan would realize there's a difference between addressing needs within the constraints of a salary cap and having an open cheque book to address needs in a free market competition.

I love both teams but the comparison is a poor one.
 
Bankofamericasox? wow...

How do you think they able to get great players? Red Sox fanbase sell out at Fenway park every game, even in a sure non-playoff year. And, it's not their fault to pay 20 millions for a player, because some other teams will.
 
There is a special Forum and other sites for mindless Sawx ball washing
 
Bankofamericasox? wow...

How do you think they able to get great players? Red Sox fanbase sell out at Fenway park every game, even in a sure non-playoff year. And, it's not their fault to pay 20 millions for a player, because some other teams will.
I'm not a particular fan of the hate directed toward the Red Sox being a successful and well run organization given themselves a chance to spend money they have to win.

The Red Sox go out and get guys they really want. The Patriots appear to do the same. It's pointless comparing the two as they operate under totally different constraints.
 
Bankofamericasox? wow...

How do you think they able to get great players? Red Sox fanbase sell out at Fenway park every game, even in a sure non-playoff year. And, it's not their fault to pay 20 millions for a player, because some other teams will.

The one thing i love about baseball financial infrastructure is the fans effect/determine who a team can sign. The rays right now are struggling because their fans don't show up to games. If the nfl did the same the bucs due to their poor attendance would have no money instead of right now having the most cap space available
 
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OMG, this is just the type of thread that should not occupy space on the main forum.

If people want to continue with this "discussion' here, the thread is still open.
 
I'm shocked at how this debate comes up time and again on this board. It is almost as if you are a fan of both the Sox and Pats you are some how not as "good" of a Patriots fan. I just don't get it. I am a season ticket holder at Fenway and on the waiting list at Gillette. I like to think I'm a pretty good fan of both, though I enjoy football more, I have been raised on baseball. As someone else said, you are born into Red Sox nation around here. What will be interesting to watch is how people raising children now are indoctrinating their kids. I teach elementary school and you see as many Patriots shirts on a daily basis as you do Red Sox shirts. The Bruins have always been big and Celtics are a distant fourth. It will be interesting to see if/how that changes over the next few years.


A few points...


1. The sell out streak each team has going is impressive in its own right but the Sox streak is inflated because they sell a ton of their unused seats to Ace Ticket and count them as sold.


2. I've had Sox season tickets for 15 years now and trust me, from 97-03 you could have a whole row to yourself in the right field grandstand before school got out or after the kids were back in school. Three of those years the Sox were in the playoffs and they were not below 500 in any of them. Those are the equivalent of the 2002 Patriots teams when Gillette was still banged out. Also, I normally put out an e-mail to coworkers listing games I have available some time in early March. This year I had one person reply, most just went ahead and bought the games they wanted at Fenway because they were available, no such luck at Gillette.


3. Fans do NOT stick around Fenway as much as our esteemed poster would like to admit. Put this team down 4+ runs after beer stands close and it is like someone pulled a fire alarm at Fenway...or as a local radio personality once put it "Boston's most expensive bar".


4. Gillette may not look packed but every seat is sold and 99% of the people are there. One BIG advantage Gillette has over Fenway is the concession stands are on the outside wall of the stadium allowing for fans to stand along the concourse and watch the game. There are great standing room areas all around the stadium. At Fenway you do not have that luxury. If you want to see the game action live, not on a tv, you have to stay in your seat.


5. Steeler fans travel very, VERY well. Seeing terrible towels in Foxboro is no different than hearing "Let's go Red Sox" in New York or Philly when Boston is in town. Close opponent, good opponent, easy drive.


6. I think the NY Times/Globe recently sold their stake in the Red Sox, though I could be wrong.


7. I don't put a ton of stock into tv ratings when it comes to football vs baseball. Football is appointment tv. How many of us have already put the Patriots games into our Sunday/Monday schedules so as to keep family matters from interfering? How many have already put in for an off day the day after a night game? In baseball there is no need, you miss today's game, there is another one tomorrow. Unless it is a Yankees-Sox, can't miss pitching match up, which you don't know until about a week ahead of time, baseball does not demand that kind of must watch attitude. Of course the gambling aspect and fantasy football has a lot to do with this too.
 
Bankofamericasox? wow...

How do you think they able to get great players? Red Sox fanbase sell out at Fenway park every game, even in a sure non-playoff year. And, it's not their fault to pay 20 millions for a player, because some other teams will.

Selling out a "stadium" that holds 23 people BETTER happen more often than not regardless of record. And they damn well BETTER win most of the time if they're going to outspend the competition by gazillions. No great feat in either case.
 
I'm shocked at how this debate comes up time and again on this board. It is almost as if you are a fan of both the Sox and Pats you are some how not as "good" of a Patriots fan. I just don't get it. I am a season ticket holder at Fenway and on the waiting list at Gillette. I like to think I'm a pretty good fan of both, though I enjoy football more, I have been raised on baseball. As someone else said, you are born into Red Sox nation around here. What will be interesting to watch is how people raising children now are indoctrinating their kids. I teach elementary school and you see as many Patriots shirts on a daily basis as you do Red Sox shirts. The Bruins have always been big and Celtics are a distant fourth. It will be interesting to see if/how that changes over the next few years.


A few points...


1. The sell out streak each team has going is impressive in its own right but the Sox streak is inflated because they sell a ton of their unused seats to Ace Ticket and count them as sold.


2. I've had Sox season tickets for 15 years now and trust me, from 97-03 you could have a whole row to yourself in the right field grandstand before school got out or after the kids were back in school. Three of those years the Sox were in the playoffs and they were not below 500 in any of them. Those are the equivalent of the 2002 Patriots teams when Gillette was still banged out. Also, I normally put out an e-mail to coworkers listing games I have available some time in early March. This year I had one person reply, most just went ahead and bought the games they wanted at Fenway because they were available, no such luck at Gillette.


3. Fans do NOT stick around Fenway as much as our esteemed poster would like to admit. Put this team down 4+ runs after beer stands close and it is like someone pulled a fire alarm at Fenway...or as a local radio personality once put it "Boston's most expensive bar".


4. Gillette may not look packed but every seat is sold and 99% of the people are there. One BIG advantage Gillette has over Fenway is the concession stands are on the outside wall of the stadium allowing for fans to stand along the concourse and watch the game. There are great standing room areas all around the stadium. At Fenway you do not have that luxury. If you want to see the game action live, not on a tv, you have to stay in your seat.


5. Steeler fans travel very, VERY well. Seeing terrible towels in Foxboro is no different than hearing "Let's go Red Sox" in New York or Philly when Boston is in town. Close opponent, good opponent, easy drive.


6. I think the NY Times/Globe recently sold their stake in the Red Sox, though I could be wrong.


7. I don't put a ton of stock into tv ratings when it comes to football vs baseball. Football is appointment tv. How many of us have already put the Patriots games into our Sunday/Monday schedules so as to keep family matters from interfering? How many have already put in for an off day the day after a night game? In baseball there is no need, you miss today's game, there is another one tomorrow. Unless it is a Yankees-Sox, can't miss pitching match up, which you don't know until about a week ahead of time, baseball does not demand that kind of must watch attitude. Of course the gambling aspect and fantasy football has a lot to do with this too.

Keyword "Right NOW"

Watch in October when the sox and yankees face off again and take over both cities like they did in 2003, 2004, 2007, and in 2008.

Watch red sox vs yankees take over the country again.
 
Keyword "Right NOW"

Watch in October when the sox and yankees face off again and take over both cities like they did in 2003, 2004, 2007, and in 2008.

Watch red sox vs yankees take over the country again.


The Sox and Yankees didn't play each other in 07 or 08...and most of my points were to "Right NOW". Thanks for reading.
 
Well speaking for the UK, the Pats seem pretty popular over here, that was the case at the Wembley game at least.
They outmuscle the BoSox for sure over here (the Yankees seem to be the most popular here).
 


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