My Boy Hernandez 37 of 38 TE in

[BritPat]

Just opinion but Gronk seemed like the go to Tight End in the red zone from my observations. It was kinda like watching Rivers look for Gates seeing Brady to Gronkowski.

Oh, absolutely. He will be at 6'6"

But then again, in the redzone you're going to see a lot of run heavy formations anyway, whether you intend to run or not. Aaron, for all his qualities, isn't going to knock you on your ass if you're a 6'4" 260lb+ OLB/DE.

 

[Haley]

How have they only got it out of 38 TEs?

That averages to 1.19 TEs per team! And with me knowing the Pats have 3, that lowers it to 1.06 per team!

Well, I thought BB had them all so the fact that there are 1.19 per team is a massive increase against my expectations.

 

[townes]

Pro Football Focus: Kareem McKenzie>Tom Brady.


Bernie Madoff has more credibility.

 

[supafly]

Start Lee "The Franchise" Smith in his place.

LOL. That cracked me up...

"The Franchise," LOL!!

 

[TheSolderKing]

you mock


Smith>Crump b/c


Youth, Price, Longevity, Taller 6'6 v. 6'2 crump. Height is huge imo

hands are about the same.


in time he will be an impact player. Crump 1 year, Smith 4 years. hmmm?

who do I take? Not the Old Teacher

 

[TheSolderKing]

carry 4 TE's get rid of that useless WR that is our Gunner. ST's is not a big deal anymore

 

[IllegalContact]

The pats leaned pretty hard on a guy who only turned 21 last november......given the routes the had him on and the likely eagerness for YAC, more drops than usual would be the norm for this guy.........

he stands to produce miserable matchup problems for opponents........end of story

 

[VJCPatriot]

FWIW, Stats Inc. recorded 7 drops for Hernandez.

Leaders - Pass Dropped - NFL - NJ.com

Regardless of what PFF or Stats Inc. says, Hernandez definitely dropped some passes he shouldn't have. It was definitely an issue, one that needs to be corrected. Hernandez was targeted 64 times so depending on count, it's at least 10% of passes being dropped.

In other words he has a 90% catch rate? A metric that's more useful is % of catches vs targets percentage. It would be nice to have Larry Fitzgerald...

Dropped Pass Stats Show That Larry Fitzgerald Is Still Awesome - Revenge of the Birds

But would the Cards ever deal him?

 

[townes]

In other words he has a 90% catch rate? A metric that's more useful is % of catches vs targets percentage. It would be nice to have Larry Fitzgerald...

Dropped Pass Stats Show That Larry Fitzgerald Is Still Awesome - Revenge of the Birds

But would the Cards ever deal him?

Easy, trade Brady and two firsts for Kareem McKenzie and then trade McKenzie for Fitzgerald. There's no way the Cards would pass on an opportunity to get McKenzie.

 

[townes]

I am creating a new pro Football website called " PRO FOOTBALL TOTAL RECALL" wherein I will completely analyze and break down the previous season's play by every player in the league and every unit in the league and rank them accordingly. I will do this based on the perfect recall my photogenic memory provides me and will provide rankings that surpass even those of PFF, even for the games i never saw, as i also possess perfect imaging skills and can replicate every game in the league based solely upon what I imagine took place.


For those who don't believe i have a photogenic memory i have pictures to prove it, it's beautiful.

For those who believe they can challenge my rankings don't kid yourselves, Patrick Chung is the best safety in football and i have the memories to prove it, play by play. As we speak i am replaying the Miami game.

 

[supafly]

you mock


Smith>Crump b/c


Youth, Price, Longevity, Taller 6'6 v. 6'2 crump. Height is huge imo

hands are about the same.


in time he will be an impact player. Crump 1 year, Smith 4 years. hmmm?

who do I take? Not the Old Teacher

I get what you're saying, but it's all about who is best for this year's current team--and that would easily be Alge Crumpler.

If Lee Smith actually ends up doing anything, and can prove himself as a future TE here, then I imagine Belichick will find a place for him. Until then, we cannot assume anything.

I am fine with keeping 4 TE's, but that also may be a little realistically challenged, so to speak.

There are indeed spots as to where we can make room from, so if BB wants to go the route of keeping 4, then more power to him.

As far as Slater being released, I doubt that will happen, particularly since he does play a vital role here on ST as a gunner. Coincidentally, we just changed the other gunner from Aiken to Arrington last yr, so I am not sure that BB would make 2 changes at such an important area of ST's. Not only that, but Slater does provide some versatility at ST, offense, and defense--even though it is mostly used only for depth purposes. He has still learned a knowledge of the systems, and would be one-up on someone new coming in.

I agree with slashing a ST-only position, in favor of having a regular contributor play that position, but I do not think it will happen with Slater, to be honest with you.

I think there is at least a possibility of moving from 3-4 ST only positions to 2-3 ST only positions. I wouldn't hold my breath for Slater leaving though.

 

[BradyFTW!]

you mock


Smith>Crump b/c


Youth, Price, Longevity, Taller 6'6 v. 6'2 crump. Height is huge imo

hands are about the same.


in time he will be an impact player. Crump 1 year, Smith 4 years. hmmm?

who do I take? Not the Old Teacher

It's pretty telling that "actual production" doesn't enter into your thought process at any point.

Also, hands = about the same? How the hell do you figure that? Crumpler is known for having especially good hands, and has been the main receiving threat in an NFL offense. Smith caught 75 total passes in four years at Marshall, playing against mostly sub-NFL competition.

 

[spacecrime]

you mock


Smith>Crump b/c


Youth, Price, Longevity, Taller 6'6 v. 6'2 crump. Height is huge imo

hands are about the same.

Nonsense. Lee's hands based on what? Lee hasn't played in the NFL yet. Chad Jackson had the best hands in the NCAA in 2005-2006, easily winning the Best Hands Contest. You should watch the video. He was awesome. In the NFL, not so much, but by your rationale:

Youth, Price, Longevity, Taller 6'6 v. 6'2 crump. Height is huge imo

Chad Jackson was a star in the NFL in 2006 compared to an old guy like Steve Smith. Younger, cheaper, taller (how do you judge the longevity of a guy who hasn't even gone to an OTA yet?)

Height is only huge if the tall guy can play at the same level as the shorter guy, else we would still have Maroney rather than Woodhead.

Lee may overtake Crumpler, but it will be because he outplays him, not because he is a inch taller and a few years younger.

 

[TheSolderKing]

so Crump being a solid Receiver BACK IN THE DAY makes him have better hands automatically? It is like saying how gr8 Randy Moss is now in the present versus his LEGACY.

I saw many Crump dropped passes and a few were mad easy... after awhile I would cringe when ball came near him. I do say their hands are EQUAL because none of them are going to be stand out receivers. Both guys rely on their SIZE and with that being said--- I will take the far younger, cheaper and taller option in Smith. Is it a gamble? Hell yeah... my gut tells me he will be on par w/ Crump in 2 years time.


Taller 6'6 vs. 6'2 Lee has BIGGER hands at 6'6 think about it. This is more about youth and the successor argument. I would enjoy BOTH here in NE this year, perhaps Crump can teach Lee (that would be best case scenario:rocker:

 

[ausbacker]

so Crump being a solid Receiver BACK IN THE DAY makes him have better hands automatically? It is like saying how gr8 Randy Moss is now in the present versus his LEGACY.

I saw many Crump dropped passes and a few were mad easy... after awhile I would cringe when ball came near him. I do say their hands are EQUAL because none of them are going to be stand out receivers. Both guys rely on their SIZE and with that being said--- I will take the far younger, cheaper and taller option in Smith. Is it a gamble? Hell yeah... my gut tells me he will be on par w/ Crump in 2 years time.


Taller 6'6 vs. 6'2 Lee has BIGGER hands at 6'6 think about it. This is more about youth and the successor argument. I would enjoy BOTH here in NE this year, perhaps Crump can teach Lee (that would be best case scenario:rocker:

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