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[TheSolderKing]

Jerod Mayo - LB - Patriots

ESPN analyst Tedy Bruschi said on WEEI Boston Monday that he believes Jerod Mayo can become the best linebacker in football within two years.
After a disappointing 2009 season marred by injuries, Mayo led the NFL in tackles as a third-year player. The 2008 Defensive Rookie of the Year made 175 stops, two sacks, and one forced fumble. Pat Willis and Jon Beason are the only linebackers with as much value in IDP leagues. As for becoming the NFL's best at his position, the 25-year-old Mayo will struggle to bypass Willis.
Source: Chris Price on Twitter
Jun 27, 1:42 PM


so at what point do we approach him for long term deal? Can we play the TAG game w/ him like we did w/ Mankins or does the new CBA screw us from doing so?

 

[Seels]

Love Tedy, but no. If we're talking strictly inside he's not bypassing Willis, if its' linebackers as a whole there are a good dozen or so that are significantly better.

 

[ausbacker]

Love Tedy, but no. If we're talking strictly inside he's not bypassing Willis, if its' linebackers as a whole there are a good dozen or so that are significantly better.

Name them all and by positional role.

It pisses me off the lack of respect Jerod Mayo gets from the Patriots fan base.

 

[CanadianPat'sFan]

Love Tedy, but no. If we're talking strictly inside he's not bypassing Willis, if its' linebackers as a whole there are a good dozen or so that are significantly better.

Did you watch this kid play the last three years?? I think he is top 3 all around LB's in football. The kid has great instincts, plays physical, and runs all over the field making plays. To boot he is a great leader and I think the most sure tackler in the whole NFL.

 

[Calciumee]

if its' linebackers as a whole there are a good dozen or so that are significantly better.

Really???

You aren't going by Dhani (sp?) Jones' top 10 are you???

 

[Rob0729]

Other than Brady, name one player the Pats did a new deal wth with 2 years left on their deal. Can't think of any? Because there isn''t any. Unless the CBA rules change dramatically to make it far more advantageous to do so, I don't expect Mayo to buck that trend.

 

[stinkypete]

Other than Brady, name one player the Pats did a new deal wth with 2 years left on their deal. Can't think of any? Because there isn''t any. Unless the CBA rules change dramatically to make it far more advantageous to do so, I don't expect Mayo to buck that trend.

Patriots players sometimes get a restructure with 1 year remaining on their rookie deals (see Seymour, Warren, Koppen and maybe Light), 2 years remaining, never happened. Given Seymour wasn't treated that respect, it's hard to imaging that Mayo will offered a new deal until 2012 at the earliest.

As far as naming 10 all around, clearly better LBs than Mayo...

Demarcus Ware
James Harrison
Patrick Willis
Clay Matthews
Brian Urlacher (if healthy)
Ray Lewis (a career achievement vote, they're probably on par)
Jon Beason (maybe)

That's 4 definites and 3 maybes. The best of the rest: Bart Scott, Lawrence Timmons, Shaun Phillips, Chad Greenway, Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Daryl Smith, Gary Brackett, Desmond Bishop...all clearly a notch behind if you ask me.

 

[sbpatfan]

Comparing Ware to Mayo is like comparing Revis to Reed, why? Does anyone seriously thin Ware would make a good ILB in this defense? Just like no one would play Reed at cornerback.

 

[strngplyr]

Patriots players sometimes get a restructure with 1 year remaining on their rookie deals (see Seymour, Warren, Koppen and maybe Light), 2 years remaining, never happened. Given Seymour wasn't treated that respect, it's hard to imaging that Mayo will offered a new deal until 2012 at the earliest.

As far as naming 10 all around, clearly better LBs than Mayo...

Demarcus Ware
James Harrison
Patrick Willis
Clay Matthews
Brian Urlacher (if healthy)
Ray Lewis (a career achievement vote, they're probably on par)
Jon Beason (maybe)

That's 4 definites and 3 maybes. The best of the rest: Bart Scott, Lawrence Timmons, Shaun Phillips, Chad Greenway, Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Daryl Smith, Gary Brackett, Desmond Bishop...all clearly a notch behind if you ask me.

Suggs should be on there, for as much of an idiot as he is, he is pretty damn good.

 

[Deus Irae]

Love Tedy, but no. If we're talking strictly inside he's not bypassing Willis, if its' linebackers as a whole there are a good dozen or so that are significantly better.

First, Willis and Mayo are arguably the two best ILBs in the game right now, with some people probably still putting Lewis above one or both of them.

Second, Tedy was talking about the future, as "within 2 years" would seem to make clear. Two years could certainly see him pass Willis. I'm not saying he will, because both players should be in their primes at that point, but it's certainly possible. Meanwhile, players like Lewis are fading.

As for linebackers as a whole, I would be an interesting list to discuss. ESPN has him ranked at #6 overall:

1. Patrick Willis, San Francisco 49ers
2. James Harrison, Pittsburgh Steelers
3. DeMarcus Ware, Dallas Cowboys
4. Clay Matthews, Green Bay Packers
5. Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens
6. Jerod Mayo, New England Patriots
7. Brian Urlacher, Chicago Bears
8. LaMarr Woodley, Pittsburgh Steelers
9. Tamba Hali, Kansas City Chiefs
9. Jon Beason, Carolina Panthers

Power Rankings: Top 10 NFL linebackers - NFC West Blog - ESPN

 

[supafly]

so at what point do we approach him for long term deal? Can we play the TAG game w/ him like we did w/ Mankins or does the new CBA screw us from doing so?

We certainly don't approach him sooner than next yr, IMO. It simply isn't a priority right now.

As far as this 'new CBA' you keep referring to (we aren't there yet, and it's debatable if they may have even taken steps backwards recently):

---Just pretend that it was the same as it ever was.....The majority of the larger issues are presumed to be the exact same. YES there will be a franchise tag, and YES the UFDA's will go back to 4 yrs.

I honestly am not sure why you are getting so worked up about these 'new' rules that you keep worrying about??! (not to sound nasty, that isn't my intention)

The main rules of UFDA's and the franchise tag will be the same--at least by all reports and accounts so far.

Yes, the team could franchise Mayo in February of 2013--if need be. He has played 3 years on a 5 year deal.

 

[TheSolderKing]

I posted this b/c Mayo needs RECOGNITION.

restructuring w/ 2 years left never happens you say. I agree, but if we hesitate he will desire a massive contract. Strategically locking up Mayo ASAP, say mid-way through 2012 is hugely important to the Patriots. Any ROOKIE contract player w/ a brain would gladly add an extension especially since New Contracts far outweigh the Rookie ones. These players if offered more money SOONER would be an automatic signing. I do NOT want to see Mayo walk in 2 years.


edit------- just saw post above me. It was not there before my submission


if you say the TAG is there we are fine. It had better not have been altered in its new form, whenever that may be? Keep the Tag the same.

 

[Frick]

I hope for years to come he keeps the defense in line with a Miracle Whip!

 

[Sciz]

Does anybody think Mayo is leaving the team any time soon as long as Belichick is here? He seems like a perfect hometown discount candidate.

 

[supafly]

Does anybody think Mayo is leaving the team any time soon as long as Belichick is here? He seems like a perfect hometown discount candidate.

Unsure as to where all of the 'extend Mayo immediately' talk is coming from lately??

He's played 3 yrs on a 5 yr deal. He is far from a current priority, and could even be franchised in Feb. 2013 if need be. That's almost 2 full yrs from now.

 

[Brady2Welker]

Name them all and by positional role.

It pisses me off the lack of respect Jerod Mayo gets from the Patriots fan base.

Mayo is a very good LB, but there are other LBs I think are better than him ignoring scheme or OLB vs ILB;

Ware
Willis
Mathews
Wake
Beason
Harrison
Woodley
Greenway
Hali

 

[ausbacker]

Mayo is a very good LB, but there are other LBs I think are better than him ignoring scheme or OLB vs ILB;

Ware
Willis
Mathews
Wake
Beason
Harrison
Woodley
Greenway
Hali

With the greatest of respect to your opinion all you've done is listed pass rushing OLB's who get sacks and added in Beason and Greenway who don't compare to Mayo's level of play. Woodley is effectively useless if he isn't getting sacks. Hali's really only had one excellent year coupled with other serviceable years. Including Cameron Wake on the list was good for a giggle. I enjoyed that one. That really leaves DeMarcus Ware, Clay Matthews, Patrick Willis & James Harrison you can make compelling arguments for being more productive/potentially better linebackers in the NFL.

Make no mistake, Jerod Mayo is a special talent and he's improving season by season. He's adding a different dimension to his game each season and I fully expect him to explode in the next few seasons leading this Patriots defense.

 

[DarrylS]

Never understood the ambivalence about Mayo, if you look at the ESPN ranking he is the third rated ILB.. coming in behind Willis and Lewis. He was a pro bowl selectee and an all pro in 2011.

Other than that do not know how you measure success, as he was voted on by fans, peers, coaches and football writers.

Perhaps we need the season to start so we can move on to more salient discussions..

 

[Calciumee]

Wake

Wake better than Mayo???

He is a good pass rusher, but he is no way better than Mayo!

I cannot not see Wake becoming a leader on the Lolphins defence!

 

[TheSolderKing]

Never understood the ambivalence about Mayo, if you look at the ESPN ranking he is the third rated ILB.. coming in behind Willis and Lewis. He was a pro bowl selectee and an all pro in 2011.

Other than that do not know how you measure success, as he was voted on by fans, peers, coaches and football writers.

Perhaps we need the season to start so we can move on to more salient discussions..

you really do not like Mr. Mayo do you?