When is your tipping point coming?

[PATSNUTme]

So we have lost most of the off season to the lockout. No free Agency period,no OTA's or Mini Camps so far. It's been boring to be a football fan.

But when does being bored become being pissed? When does being pissed become being outraged?And if you are outraged what are you going to do about it?

It's a tough one for me. This is not baseball, basketball, or hockey. But I'm going to reach a tipping point some time, and I don't know what my reaction will be if/when I do. I think I'll be a whimp and do nothing besides being disgusted. It is football after all so I watch and care just as much as I always have because I'm a football

When do you think you will reach your tipping point and how will you react once you do?

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I think I was close to the tipping point, but the draft helped. It's kind of wearing off though.

I know not a lot happens around this time anyways, but we could at least speculate on things. We don't know what the CBA will look like, which players might be available in FA depending on rules, or what the salary cap (if there is one) will be. So all we're left with is the legal stuff, which is an awful substitute.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

Good question.

I'm not a season ticket holder (another fifteen years on the waiting list?) so it's not my money that supports the NFL (apart from all of the pickup trucks/Viagra/Coors Light I buy to keep the networks' advertising revenues high enough to pay for the TV deals ...)

So I guess that my anger at the stupidity of both sides will stay just that.

If they lose a season, then it will make a huge hole in my life, that's for sure, but the only thing that could make me re-assess my football fandom would be if the whole structure of draft and salary cap went. But not even the NFLPA could be that stupid. Could they?

 

[Dufflebagz]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I'm not a season ticket holder (another fifteen years on the waiting list?)

Ouch, that's a long wait....supposedly I'll have em in another 1-2 years (fingers crossed), luckily my Aunt has had ST's for awhile.

My tipping point? I think that will be missing a good amount of training camp...I'm already pissed but that will put me over the edge. I'm not sure how I'll react other than anger but I won't stop watching football, I can promise you that.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

Since this isn't going to be an issue of taking away a season that's already in progress, I don't know if I'll ever hit a tipping point for outrage. Apathy is much more likely.

 

[Frezo]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

Since this isn't going to be an issue of taking away a season that's already in progress, I don't know if I'll ever hit a tipping point for outrage. Apathy is much more likely.

Yup, I'll hit that point of apathy when a reg season game goes away.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

Ouch, that's a long wait....supposedly I'll have em in another 1-2 years (fingers crossed), luckily my Aunt has had ST's for awhile.

That's why I'm trying to keep the risky behaviour under control (not taking Viagra while drinking Coors Light in my truck ...) I'll wait it out!

 

[patsfan-1982]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

ill be kinda pissed if there are any games missed but as far as free Agency i dont think the pats were going to do much more then sign a jag or two so at lest the outher teams cant get any better and OTA's it's just a bunch of guys running around in shorts who cares... call me when and if the season starts

 

[ausbacker]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

NFL fits into many sports that I follow world wide. The tipping point for me will be when most of these competitions are winding down and NFL season is set to start around September.

 

[Koma]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

If there is still a labor impasse in mid-July and training camps do not open on schedule, then the quality of football this season will suffer (assuming there is a season.)

If a deal is reached by the end of July or the middle of August, maybe the impact will be limited, but the games won't be as sharp as we are used to. In addition to existing teammates having a shorter time to prepare for the season, rookies and FAs will have a much smaller window to learn new playbooks and systems.

I don't think I will ever reach a level of outrage about this. If I was 10 years younger I might care more, but I'm not a season ticket holder or a Sunday ticket subscriber, so I don't have a financial commitment.

If this season is lost, I'll be disappointed and miss the NFL, but there is still college football, other pro sports and the RWC this fall. I suppose I could also spend more time with the family.

 

[Joker]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

my tipping point usually comes after a well served meal...

 

[Anteros]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I've already reached it. This is bullspit

The owners have been planning this for several years now and I'm sick of it.

Bastard$ know they're getting screwed on the current CBA but they're the one's who signed it! Unscrupulous bastard$! Man up and get the process started again you billionaire bastards!

Man up!!

 

[Fencer]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I suppose I could also spend more time with the family.

Desperate times call for desperate measures!

 

[randomk1]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I'm already planning acts of terrorism against certain figures to motivate them into getting a deal done for football is my religion.

Bill 3:16 " Thou shalt play football or be struck down by the wrath of god "

P.S. Don't tell anybody else about this!

 

[DarrylS]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

I am on the other side, and after the decision was made to litigate instead of negotiate this whole thing did a double flush for me. To allow legal systems to make decisions on this is seriously flawed, as when decisions are made then appeals will occur.

It can be saved, but not very likely as they have left the decision making in the hands of a third party.. lock the principles in a conference center and make a vow to hammer this out.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

im still hopeful that come the end of june and the start of july that this all gets worked out after the legal mumbo jumbo is exhausted... i think the owners are at fault, however d smith is not the right man to lead the players who is more concerned with litigation than negotiation... if we are talking about the lockout in mid july... plan on a crappy football season that will be wasted over what im not sure... there will be football not quality.. there is still time to get quality football back if this is done by july... if not the ufl will be more cohesive then the crap the nfl will produce this year...

 

[Fencer]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

lock the principles in a conference center

You could argue that that's what's been done, to everybody's great detriment.

Or you could say that a deal depends on the principals abandoning some of what they now claim their principles to be.

 

[Nikolai]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

Hockey has always been my favorite sport, but I have my issues with Bettman's NHL. Still, it's game on in the NHL while the NFL and the players bicker over who gets what share of the billions sitting in front of them. I've accepted that there won't be a season, or at least an abbreviated season, and I've paid more attention to the NHL this year than I have in a long time.

Looking forward to October, because of the NHL starting again. If the NFL plays, I'll come back, but I'm nearing the point where I don't care anymore.

I find myself having the same reaction to this that I had to the baseball strike. I came back after about five or six years. The NHL, apparently, was the same way.

 

[Triumph]

Re: When is you tipping point coming?

When I am the victim of a Ray Lewis crime spree.

Then, Im done.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Training Camp. Because that's the point at which we will know that we're going to have a diluted product next year. If we get to the point of actually missing scheduled games then we'll have an * season that won't be as engaging (I still "*" my internal record book for Gibbs, Theismann and the Redskins for claiming that the 1982 Lombardi is worth the same as any other; it isn't.)

"Outrage" is too strong a word, because that invests too much power in the game. I think I'll just stop caring as much, which means my loyalty to league and team will be a lot less. I won't feel as urgent about watching the NFL on TV and my Christmas present list for my kids won't include an automatic stop at the Pats online store. Multiply that by millions of fans and you have "brand damage."