Gosselins second mock

[KY Pats Fan]

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo: Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A
5. Arizona : A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
6. Cleveland : Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. San Francisco: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Cowboys: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
10. Washington: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
11. Houston: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
12. Minnesota: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
13. Detroit: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
14. St. Louis: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
15. Miami: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
16. Jacksonville: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
17. New England: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama
18. San Diego : Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
19. New York Giants: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
20. Tampa Bay: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
21. Kansas City: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
23. Philadelphia: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
25. Seattle : Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
26. Baltimore: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
27. Atlanta: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
28. New England: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
29. Chicago: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
30. New York Jets: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
32. Green Bay: James Carpenter, OT, Alabama

 

[letekro]

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo: Marcel Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A
5. Arizona : A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
6. Cleveland : Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. San Francisco: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Cowboys: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
10. Washington: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
11. Houston: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
12. Minnesota: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
13. Detroit: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal
14. St. Louis: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
15. Miami: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
16. Jacksonville: Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
17. New England: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama
18. San Diego : Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
19. New York Giants: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
20. Tampa Bay: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
21. Kansas City: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri
23. Philadelphia: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
25. Seattle : Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
26. Baltimore: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
27. Atlanta: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
28. New England: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor
29. Chicago: Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
30. New York Jets: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh : Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
32. Green Bay: James Carpenter, OT, Alabama

This is the one based solely on need?

 

[mgteich]

Gosselin's second mock is based on who he thinks teams should draft based on value and need. No rumors or information about team preferences for individual players are included.

 

[WhiZa]

I must have blinked, but when did Cam Newton start becoming the top overall pick when he's not even the top overall QB? These mockers must be setting up smoke screen before they put out there real mock on Thursday.

If Pouncey is selected at 15 this may go down as the weakest draft in the past 10 years.

 

[mgteich]

To each his own.

Yes, you blinked.

Overdrafting an OG would not make this the weakest draft in the past 10 years.

I must have blinked, but when did Cam Newton start becoming the top overall pick when he's not even the top overall QB? These mockers must be setting up smoke screen before they put out there real mock on Thursday.

If Pouncey is selected at 15 this may go down as the weakest draft in the past 10 years.

 

[SamBamsFan]

To each his own.

Yes, you blinked.

Overdrafting an OG would not make this the weakest draft in the past 10 years.

... though drafting a guard of the quality of Puncey @ 15 certainly would.

 

[crowell33]

... though drafting a guard of the quality of Puncey @ 15 certainly would.

Hate to see Carpenter jumping into the first round. Two months ago I thought the Pats could grab him with their first 3rd rounder. Last month I thought they could have snagged him in the second round. Now he might be a 1st rounder. Oh well.

 

[crowell33]

To each his own.

Yes, you blinked.

Overdrafting an OG would not make this the weakest draft in the past 10 years.

If the Patriots use both first rounders, I hope the defense gets some help instead.

 

[mgteich]

Why would overdrafting make this the weakest draft in the past 10 years. Pouncey at 15 would be nowhere near the worst pick in the last 10 years, no even the worst pick by Maimi.

QUOTE=SamBamsFan;2526410]... though drafting a guard of the quality of Puncey @ 15 certainly would.[/QUOTE]

 

[charlie2]

Aldon Smith to Indy? I certainly don't see that.

 

[BritPat]

Again, Gosselin has always used his second mock to show his personal thoughts on who each team should draft.

His third one (which will be released Thursday), is the one that always garners the most interest.

 

[dryheat44]

Hate to see Carpenter jumping into the first round. Two months ago I thought the Pats could grab him with their first 3rd rounder. Last month I thought they could have snagged him in the second round. Now he might be a 1st rounder. Oh well.

It really shows the lack of quality OTs this year. Carpenter really shouldn't go before the 3rd. Last year Saffold went #33. He's probably half again as good as Carpenter.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

It really shows the lack of quality OTs this year. Carpenter really shouldn't go before the 3rd. Last year Saffold went #33. He's probably half again as good as Carpenter.

I'm not sure I'd go that far. In some respects they seem to be similar players. I think this is a case of lockout/CBA damage control where Gosselin is projecting the more NFL ready player ahead of one who might need more development time.

 

[WhiZa]

Why would overdrafting make this the weakest draft in the past 10 years. Pouncey at 15 would be nowhere near the worst pick in the last 10 years, no even the worst pick by Maimi.

QUOTE=SamBamsFan;2526410]... though drafting a guard of the quality of Puncey @ 15 certainly would.

[/QUOTE]

No Guard has been taken higher then 17 in the past 10 years. By drafting him at 15 you are either saying he is already the best guard in the league or that the draft is so weak there's no better player to take.

 

[mgteich]

Or,

Given the needs that Miami has, Pouncey will provide the more benefit to the team than any other player.



No Guard has been taken higher then 17 in the past 10 years. By drafting him at 15 you are either saying he is already the best guard in the league or that the draft is so weak there's no better player to take.[/QUOTE]

 

[patfanken]

The Pats have drafted as high a 17 just 3 times in the BB era. (Seymour, Warren, and Mayo) I find it very hard to believe that he would use that pick on a position that has been so devalued so much by the entire league, for a player who, while might be the best RB in this draft, is certainly not "special" by any means.

It would be 'beyond a WTF moment'. It also would completely out of character for BB.

 

[crowell33]

It really shows the lack of quality OTs this year. Carpenter really shouldn't go before the 3rd. Last year Saffold went #33. He's probably half again as good as Carpenter.

I just disagree. I saw every Alabama game the last two years. I think the kid can both pass and run block and was regularly tested against the best DE's in the country. I also think he can play on day 1, and could play any position except center. Just my humble opinion.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Fairley at #2? Interesting indeed.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Fairley at #2? Interesting indeed.

The Suh factor. And I don't think that the Pathers would be idiotic enough to draft Newton so Fairley could go (gulp) first. The Pathers are just trying to get some sucker to trade for Newton at one so they can move down and get some more picks.

I think it is Von Miller first....that who I would take.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

The Suh factor. And I don't think that the Pathers would be idiotic enough to draft Newton so Fairley could go (gulp) first. The Pathers are just trying to get some sucker to trade for Newton at one so they can move down and get some more picks.

I think it is Von Miller first....that who I would take.

I can see Fairley excelling in a Ron Rivera defense if someone can motivate him and teach him to stay low.

Miller to Carolina would be a smart move by Carolina.

I have heard that Carolina is secretly interested in Green as well. (ala Irving Fryar)