Nick Caserio gives glimpse of Pats draft process

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Nick Caserio gives glimpse of Pats draft process
By: John Morgan

Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio was at a draft news conference, and gave a glimpse of what goes into the draft process for the Patriots today....

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[VJCPatriot]

That's pretty interesting stuff. I'd love to know what all those abbreviations stand for though.

How does he break down the score of ZS4.910.lw?
Size, weight, 40 times are listed below and age and date of birth.
But what does 4.59eAl1 mean exactly? Does that rate what tier of speed/quickness he's in?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Excellent info

A commenter posted links to other writers' articles..

Greg Bedard: “Nick Caserio puts on a clinic” – Nick Caserio puts on a clinic - Extra Points - Boston.com
Tom Curran: “Workouts nearly done, Pats enter grading process” – Workouts nearly done, Pats enter grading process
Ian Rapoport: “Patriots personnel head Nick Caserio gives a lecture on the draft process” – BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet Blog Archive Patriots personnel head Nick Caserio gives a lecture on the draft process
Chris Price: “Patriots Director of Player Personnel Nick Caserio Talks Draft” – It Is What It Is Patriots Director of Player Personnel Nick Caserio talks draft
Mike Reiss: “Caserio details Pats’ draft process” – Caserio details Pats' draft process - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

 

[ctpatsfan77]

That's pretty interesting stuff. I'd love to know what all those abbreviations stand for though.

How does he break down the score of ZS4.910.lw?
Size, weight, 40 times are listed below and age and date of birth.
But what does 4.59eAl1 mean exactly? Does that rate what tier of speed/quickness he's in?

Hint: the Z was probably part of Wes Welker's draft grade.

 

[FCB02062]

Compile as many third to fifth round picks as you can and hope you hit on a few of them....Bruins playoffs start tonight...draft talk can wait people....

 

[Fencer]

Interesting that he seems to say individual workouts are more important at some positions than others. That adds context to the reports of who is or isn't being worked out.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

more important if the Patriots are looking to play the player at a different position than in college...e.g. Edelperson who was a QB...tried him out as a RB and WR

 

[ctpatsfan77]

more important if the Patriots are looking to play the player at a different position than in college...e.g. Edelperson who was a QB...tried him out as a RB and WR

And as a returner.

Plus they had about half the coaching staff talk to him, AND they brought him in for a visit.

 

[Seneschal2]

But what does 4.59eAl1 mean exactly? Does that rate what tier of speed/quickness he's in?

4.59 is the 40 time. e stands for estimated time. A/1 means Astroturf.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

That's pretty interesting stuff. I'd love to know what all those abbreviations stand for though.

How does he break down the score of ZS4.910.lw?
Size, weight, 40 times are listed below and age and date of birth.
But what does 4.59eAl1 mean exactly? Does that rate what tier of speed/quickness he's in?

Closer look at elements of a draft card - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

Reiss breaks it down further in that post. Here's one section from his post:

DEFINING THE GRADE: Any letters that come before a number is what the team calls “typing”. An “I” type means the prospect is “clean” based on the standards the team has for height, weight and speed at the position in the team’s system. In this grade, the “Z” means the player is height deficient. The “S” means the player is speed deficient. If there was a “B”, it would mean the player is bulk deficient based on his weight. The player’s grade is the number 4.910. The grading scale is 1 to 9, with 1 “not very good” to 9 being “this guy is rare.” The lower-case letters – in this case “lw” -- are the team’s alert system. In this case, the “l” means a lower level of competition (e.g. a player from a Division II school). The “w” is a weight alert, indicating that the player has battled a weight problem (either too heavy or too light). The alerts don’t eliminate a player, but remind the team it’s something to investigate further.

 

[DarrylS]

The whole draft process has intrigued me for a long time, this is great info.. would still love to be a fly on the wall during the draft period.. or have some scribe be present and write an article on it.

 

[Patsgofor4]

The video on Boston.com shows what appears to be the Pats 2011 draft board broken down by position (for instance, the top 3 OTs listed are Soldier, Smith and Carimi). They are too smart to let a video of their real draft board to be videotaped but I was still surprised to see this. They could have put this out there as a smokescreen.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

The video on Boston.com shows what appears to be the Pats 2011 draft board broken down by position (for instance, the top 3 OTs listed are Soldier, Smith and Carimi). They are too smart to let a video of their real draft board to be videotaped but I was still surprised to see this. They could have put this out there as a smokescreen.

played that. being on the west coast, it's my first manza-young sighting. seems like a great gal and knowledgable. the draft board order was intriguing. probably preliminary, but, intriguing. loved scoping out the rb, wr, and ot order.

 

[BradyManny]

The video on Boston.com shows what appears to be the Pats 2011 draft board broken down by position (for instance, the top 3 OTs listed are Soldier, Smith and Carimi). They are too smart to let a video of their real draft board to be videotaped but I was still surprised to see this. They could have put this out there as a smokescreen.

I saw this on CSN last nite and had to do a double-take.

They are too smart to let their real board be shown - but at the same time, they have to put something out there, so they have to put some thought behind it. I guess they went with the perfunctory rankings, what the pundits would say. I remember seeing Jordan, Watt, Wilkerson in that order, all with grades above 8, FWIW.

So, at the very least, that is what the Patriots are OK with people thinking they think, or at least OK with people thinking that that's what they want them to think they think so is clearly not actually what they think. Did that make any sense...?

 

[VJCPatriot]

Closer look at elements of a draft card - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

Reiss breaks it down further in that post. Here's one section from his post:

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know! Pretty fascinating. I wish we were allowed to look at these draft cards for after the draft was over. But perhaps the teams still uses them later in case another team cuts loose a free agent or waives a guy?

 

[sg14]

Excellent

1) They must have standards that they rate, a HOF player =9, must compare to past players because if they rated a 2011 player against a 2011 player they would never get anywhere.

2) Wonder if they take that draft card and compare to past ratings, like last years xxx versus this years xxx, that would drive me crazy.

3) While making his pitch, a school that came to NC's mind for a lower level school was Leheigh(sp), So he was just reviewing tape of OG: Will Rackley, Lehigh - PW, V???


4)And if that white board to left had any real data on it, all those reporters would have to sworn to secrecy, which would never happen, must be false info, huh??

 

[Aßßynormal]

Compile as many third to fifth round picks as you can and hope you hit on a few of them....Bruins playoffs start tonight...draft talk can wait people....

I don't agree on waiting.

 

[vapatsfan]

ProFootballTalk got the scoop- that was not the Pats Board, but a random board made by CSN...

 

[gomezcat]

That's pretty interesting stuff. I'd love to know what all those abbreviations stand for though.

How does he break down the score of ZS4.910.lw?
Size, weight, 40 times are listed below and age and date of birth.
But what does 4.59eAl1 mean exactly? Does that rate what tier of speed/quickness he's in?

Nick Caserio Pre-Draft Conference - 4/14/2011

 

[townes]

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know! Pretty fascinating. I wish we were allowed to look at these draft cards for after the draft was over. But perhaps the teams still uses them later in case another team cuts loose a free agent or waives a guy?

I wish they would show the old 2000 through 2003-2004 boards to see how they rated players but don't see that ever happening.