No trading picks for next year..Maybe...

[mcsully]

Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

Maybe that's why BB's already traded away next year's 6 and 7.

Seriously, though, who knows?

 

[CoachK]

That might not be a bad thing. It might motivate BB to be more agressive in using his currency to go up and get targets, as opposed to moving back and getting additional draft currency.

Wouldn't mind him moving up to get someopen like Quinn early and perhaps one of the stud DEs later.

 

[meggett]

we have a pretty young team. theres not enough roster space for the 47 draft picks we have.....if he is concerned about next year (i wouldnt be) we should be trading up . pretty sure i would crap my pants if we traded 17 and 33 and moved into top 10......AJ Green? Patrick Peterson? Julio Jones?...hey a man can dream right?

 

[convertedpatsfan]

I think it will be possible to trade for 2012 picks since many teams already have, including us. If we could make trades with those picks earlier when the CBA was set to expire and no 2012 draft was set, it makes sense that we'd still be able to do so.

There could be a small risk if the draft is reduced in terms of rounds. But I imagine there'd be some type of grandfathering system so everyone knew the new rules.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Just watching NFLN and it was mentioned technically there is no NFL draft set for next year (until the CBA is signed). Now we all believe its going to be done but Michael Lombardi mentioned this might keep teams away from trading away picks next year..

Could this play a role into BB philosphy? Will he prepare with the rules that are in place now and not trade back for additional picks next year?


Just wanted to throw this out..

Thanks for the info. I haven't pondered this scenario yet.

 

[patchick]

How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?

 

[the wrothbroughterer]

That might not be a bad thing. It might motivate BB to be more agressive in using his currency to go up and get targets, as opposed to moving back and getting additional draft currency.

Wouldn't mind him moving up to get someopen like Quinn early and perhaps one of the stud DEs later.

I think that this is one of the biggest misconceptions about the BB drafting philosophy. Whatever us arm chair scouts may think, when it comes down to brass tax we have no idea what the Patriots draft board actually is. We can guesstimate what it looks like based upon media reports and our own analysis of what the team targets for its positional groupings, but none of us are actually sitting there formulating the basis for their draft philosophy from year to year.

How can you be so sure that the Pats weren't targeting Devin McCourty all along last year and knew that he was going to be their first round pick? If that was indeed the case then why reach for him at 24 when you know he'll be there at 28 and you can simultaneously increase your draft capital, get the player you want, and pay him less money than you would have by drafting him 4 spots higher.

Also, I'm not trying to pick on you, I just felt that your statement illustrated my point.

 

[Lamanai]

How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?

I thought about this too, but when you think about it there will be very little difference between a 7th and an UDFA. You cannot speak to either one until the CBA is signed. And after the CBA is signed, UDFA will be divided up amongst the 32 teams in about six miliseconds...

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I thought about this too, but when you think about it there will be very little difference between a 7th and an UDFA. You cannot speak to either one until the CBA is signed. And after the CBA is signed, UDFA will be divided up amongst the 32 teams in about six miliseconds...

Ask Matt Cassel if there's a difference between being a 7th-round pick and an UDFA.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?

As desirable as your brain.

 

[mgteich]

It seems reasonable to me to lock in some Practice Squad level players in the 6th and 7th rounds. We start with a 6th a probable comp 7th. I could see us picking up more with trade downs, or even as part of trade ups. Belichick always seems to find diamonds in the ruff with late round picks. I would consider trading away our 5th for later picks. We have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds. That's plenty to meet our needs and wants.

How about the fact that you can't sign UDFAs? Does that make moving down to pick up an extra 6th or 7th more attractive this year?

 

[mgteich]

But that is exactly the point. In order to avaoid the mad scramble, it is wise to secure some of the players who might be UDFA's in the 6th in 7th.

I thought about this too, but when you think about it there will be very little difference between a 7th and an UDFA. You cannot speak to either one until the CBA is signed. And after the CBA is signed, UDFA will be divided up amongst the 32 teams in about six miliseconds...

 

[andrewgarrr]

Wouldn't the logical thing to do is make it so draft picks can be traded into the next draft or the one thereafter, whatever the year may be? Doesn't seem to complicated..

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Wouldn't the logical thing to do is make it so draft picks can be traded into the next draft or the one thereafter, whatever the year may be? Doesn't seem to complicated..

Logic and lawyers don't get along sometimes.

[Seriously, as but one example: you'd think that the rules spelling out how many years it takes to reach free agency would all be spelled out in one section of the CBA. But in fact you have to piece together clauses in three different sections to realize that in an uncapped year it takes six years for UFA status.]

 

[patchick]

As desirable as your brain.

So we're talking day-old crumpet level?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

So we're talking day-old crumpet level?

Having little if any couth; soaked in tea they won't chip a tooth (and they may often be obtained at a discount , hence UDFA in a "normal" draft).