Potential Patriots WTF? Moment at #17

[PaulThePat]

Let's face it, last year there was probably a feeling of when Devin McCourtey's name was announced. As it turned out it was a masterstroke from BB as we drafted a potential career pro-bowl shutdown corner. However, at the time not many people probably had Devin pencilled in at the pick. This got me to thinking:

1. Is there a realistic chance of a WTF? moment at 17 this year or do you feel our needs are obvious and the number of realistic picks is relatively small ?

2. If there is a WTF? moment at 17 who do you think it might be ? Is there a running back, safety, WR or whatever who would represent good value in BB's eyes and may be worth a 17 to the coach. Could he stick with the OLB/DE/OL positions but pick someone who others had going lower ?

 

[BelichickFan]

I will admit that on my draft board the morning of last year's draft I had McCourtey circled, the only player circled, just wanted to throw that in

I actually doubt a WTF moment this year as our top need is DE and there just happens to be a good group of DE. So like the Seymour, Warren and Wilfork picks, I expect the 1a pick to be solid and expected (Wilfork wasn't expected to dropt that far but once he did the pick was predictable).

If I HAD to make a WTF pick I'll go WAY out on a limb and say a trade up from #17 to around #12 to take Julio Jones who would be a perfect WR for this offense IMO. I don't expect it but if we don't take a DL or OL at 1a then almost anything would surprise me. Jones, Price, Edelman would be an interesting group moving forward with Welker and Branch entering their contract years this year.

 

[patchick]

There are enough possibilities people are talking seriously about at #17 that it's a little hard to find a WTF candidate. For instance, I don't think any of these would qualify as a real WTF:

Watt
Wilkerson
Jordan
Kerrigan
A. Smith
T. Smith
Costanzo
Solder
Ingram
Pouncey

So...maybe an OLB other than Miller, Smith & Kerrigan, like Sheard or Reed?

 

[upstater1]

There are enough possibilities people are talking seriously about at #17 that it's a little hard to find a WTF candidate. For instance, I don't think any of these would qualify as a real WTF:

Watt
Wilkerson
Jordan
Kerrigan
A. Smith
T. Smith
Costanzo
Solder
Ingram
Pouncey

So...maybe an OLB other than Miller, Smith & Kerrigan, like Sheard or Reed?

I would say WTF to Wilkerson, T Smith, Castonzo, Pouncey and Liuget if selected.

If they took Solder I'd be like, Boy, they must project him as the ultimate stud, and I'd go with it.

 

[townes]

I suppose they could draft a TE at #17, but I seriously doubt it.


However, I guarantee TV's go through windows if it happens.

 

[reflexblue]

I suppose they could draft a TE at #17, but I seriously doubt it.


However, I guarantee TV's go through windows if it happens.

:ditto::agree::yeahthat: TE exactly what i was thinking.

 

[dryheat44]

I suppose they could draft a TE at #17, but I seriously doubt it.


However, I guarantee TV's go through windows if it happens.

Any offensive "skill" position, really, Ingram included.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Any offensive "skill" position, really, Ingram included.

What if Julio Jones fell to 17?

For me Ayers or Houston would be not very good.

 

[dryheat44]

What if Julio Jones fell to 17?

For me Ayers or Houston would be not very good.

If Julio Jones fell to #17, I would indeed say What the f@ck?!

 

[Patriot Missile]

If Julio Jones fell to #17, I would indeed say What the f@ck?!

lol Indeed.

 

[patchick]

Any offensive "skill" position, really, Ingram included.

I see Ingram as a :enranged: choice, not a :wha: choice, if that makes sense.

To me, a true WTF choice is somebody like Mankins. Even those of us who where high on him hadn't put him into the first-round discussion because we'd been blinded by vague "value" impressions.

I'm thinking a McCourty/Cunningham-style move, where popular wisdom has other guys at the same position rated higher. Jabaal Sheard is just about perfect.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I tend to agree with Patchick (surprise, surprise). Along those lines, then, what if BB drafted someone with character concerns or who is considered middle of the pack by positional rankings?

Imagine Kenrick Ellis at 17 . . .

 

[JoeShmoe]

I wont be at all surprised if we trade #17, #28 and #33 and end up with 3 second round picks and 3 x 1s next year

Then Bill and the FO find all their value in the second, third and fourth

I suspect that will be met by huge collective groans but i have a feeling Bill wont think much of the first round talent this year

 

[borg]

My WTF choice is Quinn, especially if they move up for him. I just see him as a guy far removed from the Patriot Way

 

[Patriot Missile]

I wont be at all surprised if we trade #17, #28 and #33 and end up with 3 second round picks and 3 x 1s next year

Then Bill and the FO find all their value in the second, third and fourth

I suspect that will be met by huge collective groans but i have a feeling Bill wont think much of the first round talent this year

You think so? If they are ever going to get a DE I would guess it would be this draft. No draft is ever perfect but I can't remember a draft with so many quality players at the position. I'd agree on safety and OT though.

 

[dryheat44]

I see Ingram as a :enranged: choice, not a :wha: choice, if that makes sense.

To me, a true WTF choice is somebody like Mankins. Even those of us who where high on him hadn't put him into the first-round discussion because we'd been blinded by vague "value" impressions.

I'm thinking a McCourty/Cunningham-style move, where popular wisdom has other guys at the same position rated higher. Jabaal Sheard is just about perfect.

It definitely would be a WTF? move to me. It seems BB places too much value on linemen, linebackers, and dbs to use a first on a running back. The last time he did that he got burned on a supposed 3 down RB who looked for the world like a perennial pro-bowler at Minnesota.

 

[sbpatfan]

I will say "WTF" if they actually select someone at 17 and not trade. I trust the Patriots draft selections though, so it won't be a bad WTF. Just more surprised.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I see Ingram as a :enranged: choice, not a :wha: choice, if that makes sense.

To me, a true WTF choice is somebody like Mankins. Even those of us who where high on him hadn't put him into the first-round discussion because we'd been blinded by vague "value" impressions.

I'm thinking a McCourty/Cunningham-style move, where popular wisdom has other guys at the same position rated higher. Jabaal Sheard is just about perfect.

The good thing is we are able to brace ourselves more effectively than in years past. Whoever they pick, no matter how awkward or out of place it seems at the time I will be able to talk myself into the pick because Belichick says so. His track record is just 2 damn good lately. If he takes Bailey or Sheard in the first? They must have pro bowl potential.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I tend to agree with Patchick (surprise, surprise). Along those lines, then, what if BB drafted someone with character concerns or who is considered middle of the pack by positional rankings?

Imagine Kenrick Ellis at 17 . . .

Oh my Lord!! Make it stop.

 

[Patriot Missile]

My WTF choice is Quinn, especially if they move up for him. I just see him as a guy far removed from the Patriot Way

I see him as someone The Patriot Way could help.