My hats of to you! Excellent summary of BB draft process.
Agree! Kudos!
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* I think the biggest roadblock to developing homegrown OLB's is BB's inability to trust this position to inexperienced players.
* That is why Cunningham represents a huge shift in drafting philosophy for BB and why this year, we may finally see that elusive stud pass rusher drafted early.
*I don't know........I think its as simple as using your day 1 and day 2 picks on OL and DL until you simply can't upgrade the position...
AMEN, Brother!! :rocker:
I honestly think it is JUST that simple.
There are other ways to build Championships teams, for sure...
But that way IS the time-honored MOST effective way, going ALL the way back.
The Steelers have made no secret of their regret of not taking Dan Marino as opposed to Gabe Rivera, even if Rivera turned out to be a stud it's very unlikely that he would have had the kind of impact that someone like Marino had.
IMO quarterbacks are a totally different sphere. If you don't have a starting QB, all bets are off. Happily, though, the Patriots haven't been in that situation for many years.
BTW, thanks to everybody for a very interesting thread. Lots of food for thought.
The impact analysis still holds true though, the QB just happens to be the position that carries the most impact. I rather doubt a slight increase on a line position will have more weight than going from Deltha O'Neil to Darelle Revis.
I agree, but I don't think that's wildly incompatible with a lines-first philosophy. It's just a matter of saying that until you have a starter you feel confident in at QB and each line position, those will be the highest impact positions to draft. (Not saying that's my philosophy, BTW; it depends on the talent in the draft. E.g. last year a starter was needed at DE, but the stud CB option represented a greater expected impact than the meh DE option.)
BTW, what exactly is your personnel philosophy?
I don't know........I think its as simple as using your day 1 and day 2 picks on OL and DL until you simply can't upgrade the position...
AMEN, Brother!! :rocker:
I honestly think it is JUST that simple.
There are other ways to build Championships teams, for sure...
But that way IS the time-honored MOST effective way, going ALL the way back.
The Steelers have made no secret of their regret of not taking Dan Marino as opposed to Gabe Rivera, even if Rivera turned out to be a stud it's very unlikely that he would have had the kind of impact that someone like Marino had.
What impact was that?
Marino was jolly good fun, but he didn't win any rings, now, did he?
Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, and COUNTLESS other mediocre QB's, on the other hand, HAVE won Championships.
Shall I remind you why?
Or would you like to pan up and read the original quote?
It All Starts In The Trenches, baby.
What impact was that?
Marino was jolly good fun, but he didn't win any rings, now, did he?
Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, and COUNTLESS other mediocre QB's, on the other hand, HAVE won Championships.
Shall I remind you why?
Or would you like to pan up and read the original quote?
It All Starts In The Trenches, baby.
I gather from this analysis that you'd happily trade Brady to Oakland to get Seymour back?
What impact was that?
Marino was jolly good fun, but he didn't win any rings, now, did he?
Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, and COUNTLESS other mediocre QB's, on the other hand, HAVE won Championships.
Shall I remind you why?
Or would you like to pan up and read the original quote?
It All Starts In The Trenches, baby.
What're you high?
What impact was that?
Marino was jolly good fun, but he didn't win any rings, now, did he?
Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, and COUNTLESS other mediocre QB's, on the other hand, HAVE won Championships.
Shall I remind you why?
Or would you like to pan up and read the original quote?
It All Starts In The Trenches, baby.
I gather from this analysis that you'd happily trade Brady to Oakland to get Seymour back?
What're you high??
Hey, you're the one arguing that you can win with any old schmo at QB, 'cause the lines are what matters!
You've been spending too much time talking to Snake Eyes, Fair One.
I did, indeed, remind that fellow that you CAN win with any old schmo at QB.
But in NO way did I recommend it.
As 1800 posts or so have made clear: Grizzlies are a PRIORITY with me.
...But not to the EXCLUSION of Blocking Backs.
I recommend drafting exemplary QB's...but LATE in the draft.
" Why??? For the love of God, WHY???"
Because...I...CAN.
~ Tom Brady ~ 6th Round
~ Joe Montana ~ 3rd Round
~ Johny Unitas ~ 9th Round
~ Bart Starr ~ 17th Round
May I join you?
Would the Dolphins chances have been better if they passed on Marino and just threw another body at the OL or DL? I've noticed that a great many teams that have won have had great QBs at the helm, the Trent Dilfers of the world are the exception, not the rule.
Anyway, it's a pretty simple concept, if you get more on the field impact from a non-Lineman then it makes sense to go with them rather than the lineman. It's kind of like picking a stock that gives a 25% return over one that only gives a 10% return.
We need help on the OL and DL, so it make sense investing there, the AZ Cardinals really need a QB, and they'd get more from a capable QB then to just to just get a lineman.
Would the Dolphins chances have been better if they passed on Marino and just threw another body at the OL or DL? I've noticed that a great many teams that have won have had great QBs at the helm, the Trent Dilfers of the world are the exception, not the rule.
Anyway, it's a pretty simple concept, if you get more on the field impact from a non-Lineman then it makes sense to go with them rather than the lineman. It's kind of like picking a stock that gives a 25% return over one that only gives a 10% return.
We need help on the OL and DL, so it make sense investing there, the AZ Cardinals really need a QB, and they'd get more from a capable QB then to just to just get a lineman.