BritPat
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After reading my initial comments, I feel I should give more insight into why I think it's bonkers.....
Let's start with the Draft picks. The only fair tool for comparison is the (admittedly slightly outdated) trade value chart, but use it we shall.
#9 is worth 1350 points, #17 is worth 950 points. That's 400 points difference (not that I'm doubting you can count fella) - and our 4th round pick is worth only 56 points. That's 344 points difference for those not keeping score. That's the equivalent of the #55/#55 pick in the Draft.
Kaczur has no trade value so you might as well put him to the side. Which means that Mankins and Meriweather have to be worth Ware, Barber and a mid second round pick. Ware isn't leaving Dallas without an incredibly stupid offer being put to JJ. And this certainly isn't a stupid offer, not in the way it would need to be anyway.
Watkins is not a first round pick, first and foremost. Not with the CBA up in the air, and not at 26 years old. Take Wisniewski instead.
Counting tackles is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea. He'd be a marginal upgrade at best. Certainly not worth trading the 33rd pick of the draft for.
After initially being infatuated with Baldwin, I now see what others see. Laziness, average athleticism, inability to beat press coverage, poor route runner. We traded someone not so long ago who bore all those hallmarks. I'd rather take the next guy down.
As for trading a fifth round away for Johnson, who is worth nothing - sorry fella. Not good enough.
I can see why, but he's simply not a Pats Guard. Not agile enough, not a good enough technician.
Why would the Pats trade away someone Belichick clearly rates and has done since he arrived, for little in return? I'm not sure what else Sanders has to do to prove his worth, certainly to the fans.
A 6'4" 321lb OT? For the Patriots?
Hang on, you wouldn't need to do this if you hadn't traded away Sanders.
I thought we couldn't get a Compensatory 4th round pick?
I liked the enthusiasm, I liked the determination, but the rest - it's a no from me.
#9 NE Patriots via Dallas Cowboys*: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB
*NE Trades G Logan Mankins, S Brandon Merriweather, G/T Nick Kaczur and N.E. pick #17 in the first round and the N.E. 4th round pick for OLB DeMarcus Ware, RB Marion Barber and Dallas #9. I can see the “are you nuts” posters typing as we speak. Dallas has major needs and desperate on the O Line. Kosier’s an FA . They have one starting Safety. And remember Mankins and Merriweather are Pro Bowlers. Kaczur won’t redo and Barber is on his way out of Dallas but is only 27. Fantasy? Maybe . Workable? Yes. See what the Boys do at #17 and it makes more sense. Jerry gets two stars instead of one. This mock is for fun after all. It can work in real life though. Merriweather is a 2012 FA so his value back to the Pats in 2011 was important. Jerry Jones will pay more for Mankins and Merriweather on new contracts and power agent Mr.Bauer cost his client Mankins millions last year so I am sure he will make a deal quick with Dallas.
Let's start with the Draft picks. The only fair tool for comparison is the (admittedly slightly outdated) trade value chart, but use it we shall.
#9 is worth 1350 points, #17 is worth 950 points. That's 400 points difference (not that I'm doubting you can count fella) - and our 4th round pick is worth only 56 points. That's 344 points difference for those not keeping score. That's the equivalent of the #55/#55 pick in the Draft.
Kaczur has no trade value so you might as well put him to the side. Which means that Mankins and Meriweather have to be worth Ware, Barber and a mid second round pick. Ware isn't leaving Dallas without an incredibly stupid offer being put to JJ. And this certainly isn't a stupid offer, not in the way it would need to be anyway.
#28 New England Patriots: Danny Watkins G
Watkins is not a first round pick, first and foremost. Not with the CBA up in the air, and not at 26 years old. Take Wisniewski instead.
Round 2
#33 San Diego via New England Patriots*: Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB Purdue
*Pats get an upgrade in Safety in FS Eric Weddle. The Pats were 30th in Yards against in pass in 2010. Standing pat with the present suspects is not going to work again for the Patriots. They lose Merriweather, who had the most pure talent, to the ‘Boys, but gain Eric Weddle who is smart and is the DB quarterback that Belichick desires, had 96 tackles and has playmaking ability. He is only 26. The Chargers had a first round tender on Weddle but this works for them here. Weddle and Pat Chung could be the starting pair. Sanders has a CAP price just south of $3m which is too high for a rotation Safety and the Pats just re-upped Page and Barrett. We can see more moves. This could save money for the Patriots.
Counting tackles is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea. He'd be a marginal upgrade at best. Certainly not worth trading the 33rd pick of the draft for.
#60 New England Patriots: John Baldwin WR This was a case of BPA for the Pats. He should have not been there this late. Pats were looking for more O Line depth. it just worked out. They still need to sign a Vet WR and I see a 5th to the Bengals for WR Chad Ochocinco. Three youngsters like Tate, Edelman, Price and now another in Baldwin, are not NFL seasoned yet. It worked on the TE kids last year, but Price and Tate were not major factors in the passing game. Edelman and Tate were better in ST roles.
After initially being infatuated with Baldwin, I now see what others see. Laziness, average athleticism, inability to beat press coverage, poor route runner. We traded someone not so long ago who bore all those hallmarks. I'd rather take the next guy down.
As for trading a fifth round away for Johnson, who is worth nothing - sorry fella. Not good enough.
#74 New England via Minnesota : John Moffitt OG
I can see why, but he's simply not a Pats Guard. Not agile enough, not a good enough technician.
Yep, they need a Safety more. But they get N.E. Safety James Sanders for #119 (approx. pending comps) one of the Eagles two fourth rounders, as N.E. has to ship a fourth to Dallas. Reid likes N.E. DBs.
Why would the Pats trade away someone Belichick clearly rates and has done since he arrived, for little in return? I'm not sure what else Sanders has to do to prove his worth, certainly to the fans.
#92 New England: James Carpenter OT
A 6'4" 321lb OT? For the Patriots?
28. New England : Shiloh Keo S
Hang on, you wouldn't need to do this if you hadn't traded away Sanders.
New England: Greg Romeus DE/OLB
I thought we couldn't get a Compensatory 4th round pick?
I liked the enthusiasm, I liked the determination, but the rest - it's a no from me.