When Brady retires....

[ScottishPat]

I know there is still years left in him but when he does retire would any of you consider trading for Cassel ? He played well when he was here.

Or would you pick up a QB in the draft ?

 

[Calciumee]

I know there is still years left in him but when he does retire would any of you consider trading for Cassel ? He played well when he was here.

Or would you pick up a QB in the draft ?

I think BB will pick a QB a few years before, and build him up ready.

It worked for Green Bay

 

[sbpatfan]

Have to love the off season and all of these illogical what if posts. Cassel is 28, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the league before Brady.

 

[stcjones]

I know there is still years left in him but when he does retire would any of you consider trading for Cassel ? He played well when he was here.

Or would you pick up a QB in the draft ?

Ummmm...no on cassel...pats will draft the successor to the king.

 

[Calciumee]

Have to love the off season and all of these illogical what if posts. Cassel is 28, I wouldn't be surprised if he was out of the league before Brady.

But his body hasn't taken the hits like Brady!

Not even in college!

 

[blackglass3]

When Brady retires Belichick shifts to Football Czar duties. Hello Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow!

(I am trying to start my own rumor to see if it will get picked up by PFT or something...If I keep repeating it someone will eventually think it is truth!)

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I know there is still years left in him but when he does retire would any of you consider trading for Cassel ? He played well when he was here.

Or would you pick up a QB in the draft ?

Cassel will either be ruined by Haley by then or have survived him to become a QB so valuable the Chief's wouldn't be interested in trading...

Bill will get Tommy's replacement from the same place he got Tommy, day 3 of the draft and developed under Tom in the system.

Generally speaking it's easier to teach the system to a rookie QB who fits the profile than it is to unteach bad habits learned elsewhere to a veteran QB...although he would likely also start kicking the tires on some veteran backups when the time comes.

QB's drafted much earlier tend to be less coachable or adaptable because they have been conditioned to think it's all about their measurables talent. QB's who are playing now will either be too valuable to trade or not worth the price. Situations like the Cassel one are few and far between, and his value was largely tied to having been developed HERE. Remember, Bill's actually kicked a lot of tires over the last decade and only a handful could remotely run this offense. To date that handful were all what scouts would have characterized at best as diamond in the rough potential career NFL backups...

Even Rogers who was a late first round faller and had to muster some real mental toughness to sit for 3 seasons in a nearly no win situation behind the thing that wouldn't leave.

I think the way Brady's extension was done lends itself to one more incremental 2-4 year extension at the mid point of his current deal (2013) at which time BB will also have been extended another 4-5. I don't think Tommy's replacement needs to be on the roster before 2013-14 because I don't think he will see the field much before 2016. I think in the interim Bill would be happy to develop trading chips behind Tom, any of which might provide value as Tom's bachup before becoming the chip that helps replace him without dipping into draft picks better spent in the trenches and in insuring that guy takes over a team that doesn't need the next Tom Brady to be a contender. 'Cause you may never find THAT guy again.

 

[PaulThePat]

I would do what Mo said ^^

ps good to see a fellow Scot on the forum :rocker:

 

[serifyn]

i think the strategy you see now is in place in finding the next QB. Brian Hoyer is the backup QB right now and every year someone will come in who will challenge him if he can keep beating them every year in training camp, Hoyer will probably be the next QB here, but who knows, he may never end up playing for the patriots, Tom has said he wants to play til he is 40 and he has a real good chance of being able to do that with his method of play and this team's offense.

the dink and dunk is about finding the open guy and reading coverage quickly, it isnt based at all on how athletic you are or how far you can throw the ball, although the option is there, tom who has never been a great runner will almost never put himself in a situation where he can be seriously injured outside of the pocket.

Other than that, this O-line is one of this best in the NFL and as long as he has the couple seconds he needs to find the open guy, it will be all about Brady's decision making and his head more than anything else, and i think he proved this year that his decision making is pretty damn good.

 

[SanAngeloState]

When Brady retires Belichick shifts to Football Czar duties. Hello Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow!

(I am trying to start my own rumor to see if it will get picked up by PFT or something...If I keep repeating it someone will eventually think it is truth!)

Urban meyer couldn't handle college anymore due to his heart or nerves, so he's going to the pros?

Tim Tebow has shown what? He's a good college QB that can run over tiny LBs, of which there are none in the NFL, and can't read a defense or have a throwing motion that will work in the NFL?

Brilliant.

 

[blackglass3]

Urban meyer couldn't handle college anymore due to his heart or nerves, so he's going to the pros?

Tim Tebow has shown what? He's a good college QB that can run over tiny LBs, of which there are none in the NFL, and can't read a defense or have a throwing motion that will work in the NFL?

Brilliant.

Sorry, but I don't take your trolling ass seriously. You and RabThePat should get NEM'ed out of this place.

 

[Keyser Söze]

No, he's awful.

 

[SanAngeloState]

Sorry, but I don't take your trolling ass seriously. You and RabThePat should get NEM'ed out of this place.

You are seriously suggesting that the pats should hire a retired Urban Meyer (with a heart and nerve condition) and the useless Tim Tebow and I'm trolling? Either you're trolling or you are a fool. College isn't the pros. Tim Tebow is a joke.

Your post will stand in perpetuity as one of the stupidest posts of any time, anywhere about anything. I will remind you of this as it becomes more and more evident.

 

[Hart Lee Chung]

Brian "Tom Sawyer" Hoyer! :rocker:

 

[ScottieC]

........its possible we wont be as good. However, I'm not into hypotheticals.

 

[THELAWFIRM226]

Wait, Tom Brady is going to have to retire one day??

On a serious note, I agree that BB will draft a successor several years before
brady retires. We can only hope it turns out as well as it did for green bay.
I don't see why it couldn't happen, a great coach and a great quarterback as mentors, along with a stable organization....whoever comes next will have no excuse if they don't succeed.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Wait, Tom Brady is going to have to retire one day??

On a serious note, I agree that BB will draft a successor several years before
brady retires. We can only hope it turns out as well as it did for green bay.
I don't see why it couldn't happen, a great coach and a great quarterback as mentors, along with a stable organization....whoever comes next will have no excuse if they don't succeed.

Rookie contracts max out at 4-6 years...May be even less under a new CBA because their first contract will be slotted. A QB worth keeping would probably command a starters contract or franchise tag after 3-4 years, kind of like Cassel did, and Brady will likely command another extension that will result in $18M+ cap hits for him alone say from 2013-2016...

One of the unique aspects of what happened in Green Bay was that because Brett never showed up for camps Rogers at least got all the first team reps until the pre season. That would never happen with Brady. If he's here and healthy he gets all the first team reps and he plays most if not all of the snaps. Even in SF Young was in and out of the lineup for 4 years due to various injuries to Montana. And even without a cap they had to move one and retain one because paying both was too costly. I know SD paid two for a couple of years...but then again they have yet to win anything in the process... Maybe that Rivers draft pick and double QB salaries would have been better spent elsewhere and put them over the top...

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Felger actually said they should use one of the 1st round picks in the upcoming draft for TB's successor, of course he wanted the Pats to take Tebow last year.
Like Mo says we have Hoyer now unless someone beats him out and BB will draft QB's late in the draft that he can mold into what he wants. The day Tom retires the QB will be on the roster and ready.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Cassel was probably a one year wonder who was QB for a team just a few months removed from 18-1

I have no idea on how he made the pro bowl this year...I doubt his stats were worthy.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Cassel was probably a one year wonder who was QB for a team just a few months removed from 18-1

I have no idea on how he made the pro bowl this year...I doubt his stats were worthy.

Actually they were... Cassel wasn't another Brady, but he was developable into an above average starter in this league. There aren't as many of them as some of you seem to think, and a lot of overhyped guys are nothing more than that...including first rounders more of whom are busts or below average than above it.