Dr Z pats tidbits

[NYCPatsFan]

I didn't bother to find out if his wife's good looking.

Equivalent. Except for the fact he's a famous writer and I'm not.[/QUOTE]

Amusing quips

 

[NYCPatsFan]

To slam Seymour and say "I don't know if he's hurt", when the least bit of research would reveal he came back immediately from having Harrison fall on his outstretched arm is lazy journalism in the least. By going out of his way to slam Seymour without checking his injury status he confirms my belief.

If that is what he did, I agree with your assessment that he did a pathetic job on this report. (note that I qualified it for just this report )

Glad that you took my first posting in the stride. After seeing the extreme reactions of many regular posters to even the smallest criticism either against the tone of their posting or against the Pats, I was bracing myself for a similar retort.

 

[RayClay]

If that is what he did, I agree with your assessment that he did a pathetic job on this report. (note that I qualified it for just this report )

Glad that you took my first posting in the stride. After seeing the extreme reactions of many regular posters to even the smallest criticism either against the tone of their posting or against the Pats, I was bracing myself for a similar retort.

Hey I slam the writers when I find them lacking because they're pros, I figure it goes with the territory and I don't really expect them to be reading this.

I know some people worship Z because of his individual player breakdowns, so maybe I'm trying to be controversial.

He really doesn't keep up on teams during the season then writes opinion pieces based on his memories from the year before. I've caught him at this and I don't like it.

Even though I'm not so much into the individual breakdowns, he's certainly better than most of the writers. The only one I really respect and enjoy is Kirwan, but I've never tried to keep up on all 32 teams either, it's harder than it seems I'm sure.

Yeah My E-feelings don't get hurt very easily.

And I'd probably do his wife, but i have pretty low standards so that's not saying much.

 

[Fanfrom1960]

Hey I slam the writers when I find them lacking because they're pros, I figure it goes with the territory and I don't really expect them to be reading this.

I know some people worship Z because of his individual player breakdowns, so maybe I'm trying to be controversial.

He really doesn't keep up on teams during the season then writes opinion pieces based on his memories from the year before. I've caught him at this and I don't like it.

Even though I'm not so much into the individual breakdowns, he's certainly better than most of the writers. The only one I really respect and enjoy is Kirwan, but I've never tried to keep up on all 32 teams either, it's harder than it seems I'm sure.

Yeah My E-feelings don't get hurt very easily.

And I'd probably do his wife, but i have pretty low standards so that's not saying much.

Zimmerman has a hot wife? Isn't he about a hundred?

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

When the Pats lost to the Jets, I knew after looking at the field conditions it was an absolute fluke. I gave the Pats the benefit of the doubt and was not worry what so ever. If they had lost again in Green Bay, I would be worried. Look, the 3 losses at home against Denver, Indy and the Jets were partially due to the field conditions. Not to take away anything from the Colts and Broncos, they are really good teams and outplayed the Pats. But the Jets game had horrendous field conditions! I will give the Jets some credit because they did come out to play, but the Jets are not a better football team and it will show come season's end. As for Seymour, I'm a firm believer that he creates more havoc when he is inside on passing downs. I'm sure the Pats already do this but if not, when it gets to third and long the Pats should utilize a four man front more with Seymour inside and Jarvis Green on the outside. Lastly, Colvin needs to be blitzing a lot more on early downs instead of being in pass coverage.

Oh yeah and this Dr. Z character can kiss it! This is a guy who bables in his column about what team's bandwagon he is jumping on this week then finishes it off with predicting three games or so out of all the games for the weekend. I don't know why SI still has him writing columns on their site and magazine, I could care less about what he writes about. Peter King is way better at what he does than Dr.Z. What the hell is he a Dr of anyway? I used to be a person that read a lot of articles daily to see what experts thought about the Pats and now I know why organizations don't want their players to read it. It's a bunch of crap! Who cares what these so called experts think about the Pats, they don't know ****! A few years ago, I used to be a stat junkie and read way too much into stats. The only stat you need to know is whether your team has a win or a loss. I could care less about how many td's Brady has compared to Manning or where our defense ranks in the NFL. Stats can be misleading. I'm done ranting now.

 

[RayClay]

Zimmerman has a hot wife? Isn't he about a hundred?

Z mentions his red headed wife most every column. It's part of his shtick, like the other guy with his whipped cream frappucinos from Starbucks.

I took exception to Z's questioning Seymour's effort and took liberties with my imagination and his 90-100, (only an estimate) year old wife.

In the tradition of Kramer and Mel Gibson, I hereby sincerely apologize.

 

[RayClay]

Also in my defense, when some wine connoisseurs reach a certain age, they start to care less about the vintage, type of grape or year and just want to catch a buzz.

If the good DR. is not in this category again, my apologies.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Dr. Z has been watching the game a long time, takes time to carefully watch line play and is not at all full of himself. His comments regarding Seymour (who Z has praised on several former occasions) would never have been offered lightly, given the kind of respect Z expresses for the game.

Too many people here instantly dismiss disparaging views of anything Patriots without bothering to genuinely consider the source. Z would be the first person to admit that he could be wrong and that covering the NFL is extremely difficult given the size of the league and the number of players now. On the other hand, we crave coverage of our team, the more the better most often. We enjoy reading about our guys and because the new sources understand this appetite they insist that their writers fill up pages with their coverage, ranking, insights, etc. Z and his 'frappacino' friend, Peter King, continue to be tow of the most diligent and well informed writers on the national scene. Neither would be working if we didn't demand more content, don't forget.

As for Seymour's play, I side with those a bit disappointed with his output. King Richard was just steamrolled on more than one play during the Jets game. He could have been hurt, and while I admire his drive to be on the field, if his injury was preventing better play then sitting him down made sense for the Pats. I realize it is hard to fully appreciate Seymour's dominance because it takes place in such tight quarters and often away from the ball. But I continue to expect a more obvious impact from our best D-lineman.

 

[RayClay]

Dr. Z has been watching the game a long time, takes time to carefully watch line play and is not at all full of himself. His comments regarding Seymour (who Z has praised on several former occasions) would never have been offered lightly, given the kind of respect Z expresses for the game.

Too many people here instantly dismiss disparaging views of anything Patriots without bothering to genuinely consider the source. Z would be the first person to admit that he could be wrong and that covering the NFL is extremely difficult given the size of the league and the number of players now. On the other hand, we crave coverage of our team, the more the better most often. We enjoy reading about our guys and because the new sources understand this appetite they insist that their writers fill up pages with their coverage, ranking, insights, etc. Z and his 'frappacino' friend, Peter King, continue to be tow of the most diligent and well informed writers on the national scene. Neither would be working if we didn't demand more content, don't forget.

As for Seymour's play, I side with those a bit disappointed with his output. King Richard was just steamrolled on more than one play during the Jets game. He could have been hurt, and while I admire his drive to be on the field, if his injury was preventing better play then sitting him down made sense for the Pats. I realize it is hard to fully appreciate Seymour's dominance because it takes place in such tight quarters and often away from the ball. But I continue to expect a more obvious impact from our best D-lineman.

I agree with most of what you say. But if you admit, (as Z does), that you don't know what you're talking about, then write about something else.

We heard the same crap with Dillon last year. Off year, doesn't have it too old.

Amazing how much younger he is this year.

I'm sorry, sitting on your tush and criticizing guys running on one leg or trying to take on double teams with one arm is total bullsh*t.

We say how great it is to play hurt, but you have to play 100% with one freaking arm or leg!

If you play hurt, you get crucified!!!!

Makes me understand the Tyrone Poole's of the world.

 

[njpatsfan]

"Dr. Z's" wine long ago turned to vinegar.

Once, in the pre-internet days, he had a lock on a lot of inside information - and could therefore write some pretty insightful articles. Sport stats bureaus were the exclusive province of large media organizations.

Now, with the quantity and speed of information delivery nowadays, that advantage is long gone. Today, you have to master all the online sources, work streets/locker rooms AND do at at light speed because the news cycle is so fast. Sadly, Zimmerman doesn't even maintain the pretense of trying to keep up. I have read him for years, and I think he has been mailing it in for a long time now.

He must have written 50 articles in the last 5 years bemoaning 'parity' in a pathetic display of pre-inoculating the reader against any failure of his 'predictions'. It's almost embarrassing.

At least when Peter King is getting a coffee, it's usually on the way to a game/practice.

For me, the Z in "Dr. Z" is for laZy.

R

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

I agree with the fact of Sey's really poor play against the Jets. I had a front row view and focused on the DL. Yes, Hill was even worse and got pulled, only to return to the perrenial inactive status against GB. I don't know why Sey played so poorly against the Jets, injury or desire, but pulling him was a rational response.

Put me in the camp that says Warren really, really helps Sey produce. I think that at this juncture Richard Seymour is the most over rated, under achieving Patriot. That's a shame.

The Pats were missing Ty Warren big time against the Jets. Also remember that Seymour played alot in his spot becuase Jarvis is suited as a right end primarily. You have to wonder if this affected his ability with his arm, if that injury was even more affected at left end than at his natural position.

The thing I wondered that to me was really strange was that the defense never went to a 4-3 like they did in the first game against the Jets. On the series in the red zone the jets just continually ran until they got in the end zone but yet you still saw a 3-4 defense look on the goal line. Either the coaching never made the adjustment or they didn't have enough bodies to go to a 4-3.

But the bottom line is the defense is playing really well. They are second in points allowed.

The real issue is the consistency of the offense.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

I agree with most of what you say. But if you admit, (as Z does), that you don't know what you're talking about, then write about something else.

We heard the same crap with Dillon last year. Off year, doesn't have it too old.

Amazing how much younger he is this year.

I'm sorry, sitting on your tush and criticizing guys running on one leg or trying to take on double teams with one arm is total bullsh*t.

We say how great it is to play hurt, but you have to play 100% with one freaking arm or leg!

If you play hurt, you get crucified!!!!

Makes me understand the Tyrone Poole's of the world.

Umm, not one poster here at Patsfans.com knows what they are talking about because we aren't privy to BB's inner sanctum, so get off your high horse and ease up on the drama queen stuff, please. If we followed your suggestion there'd be nothing to post here at all. Geez, even a guy who has great access to the Pats like the reliable Mike Reiss is left to speculate about personnel moves and games performances alike.

I didn't crucify Seymour at all, I only said that it made sense for him to sit if he couldn't play well in the Jets game. My expectations regarding Seymour refer to the entire season up to this point, not just after he was injured.

Enjoy the game!