Anyone expect the Pats to no-huddle the crap out of the Jets

[R_T26]

In all honesty how do they combat a spread no huddle for the first few drives to build a lead. All these little quick guys coming from everywhere. Constantly running out of the shotgun especially if they go to a heavy db base. Could the jets stop this. Honest question. All the scheming Rex could do would still go to waste because the D could
Never get set.

 

[brady199]

Sounds good, maybe 25 staight passing plays to open things up. :rocker:

 

[RayClay]

I was thinking of this and i think they go differently to start. I'm thinking Ryan knows that last game was no fluke and if he plays conservative, we'll still score and he'll never catch up, therefore he needs to risk anything to get to Brady early.

I say start in max protect with Crumpler and Gronk and Woodhead the single back. Send Tate and Branch and give Brady a solid pocket. No receivers open, then send the TEs or Woodhead. Run this enough to frustrate the Jets, then move into our varied offense.

No big defensive plays early. Take time and what they give us, a conservative start favors us, because we can still move the ball.

 

[shmessy]

In response to the thread title's question, I expect the Patriots to EVERYTHING the crap out of the Jets.

 

[jays52]

Depends on what personnel you get the Jets in. The Pats are one of the best substitution offenses in the league and can personnel a team to death. If the Pats catch the Jets in a personnel mismatch, Brady will no huddle it and march on them until they either force a timeout or score. That being said, a major strength of the team is the substitution blur they run. I wouldn't sacrifice that advantage unless it were to exploit a mismatch. Yeah, they'll use some doses of it, but I'm expecting a lot of huddling.

 

[Patspsycho]

Depends on what personnel you get the Jets in. The Pats are one of the best substitution offenses in the league and can personnel a team to death. If the Pats catch the Jets in a personnel mismatch, Brady will no huddle it and march on them until they either force a timeout or score. That being said, a major strength of the team is the substitution blur they run. I wouldn't sacrifice that advantage unless it were to exploit a mismatch. Yeah, they'll use some doses of it, but I'm expecting a lot of huddling.

I think you nailed it right on the head. Our enormous number of substitutions is something that really works in our favor, and I don't think we would stop doing that, but if as you say we catch them in a mismatch, you know Brady will get the green light to audible his way down the field, or if he sees something unusual (such as the last play against Chicago in the first half when he saw the deep cover two and held them inside with his eyes and threw outside where Branch had the leverage beat).

That is a big advantage that we have over them because Sanchez has no such privilege.

 

[SVN]

most important is not to outcoach themselves. they did try this no huddle all game last yr in the meadowlands with the clipboard signs or whatever. didnt work so well.

 

[BradyBranch39]

I really doubt it.

 

[naF staP]

I would love to see a lot of no huddle on Sunday.

 

[VJCPatriot]

I don't see 25 straight passes. The Pats need to be unpredictable to be successful. However I could definitely see some screen plays early to take advantage of a Jets defense that is pressing and trying to pressure Brady. Use their aggressiveness against them. Let em come upfield, then hit em with a screen and gash em! The Patriots way is to outsmart the opponent. And with Brady directing the offense, that usually happens a lot.

 

[TruthSeeker]

I think you nailed it right on the head. Our enormous number of substitutions is something that really works in our favor, and I don't think we would stop doing that, but if as you say we catch them in a mismatch, you know Brady will get the green light to audible his way down the field, or if he sees something unusual (such as the last play against Chicago in the first half when he saw the deep cover two and held them inside with his eyes and threw outside where Branch had the leverage beat).

That is a big advantage that we have over them because Sanchez has no such privilege.

I remember hearing about a recent game (perhaps the Jets game) that the Patriots had 27 different formations in the first 27 plays and I believe that this included 16 different personnel groupings. It makes heads spin for spectators who are trying to keep track; I'm sure it's even worse on the field for the defenders who are trying to figure out what the tendency is from a specific personnel grouping/formation when so much changes so frequently.

It really is a credit to BB and the Patriots that they make these changes so seamlessly. When's the last time the Pats had a 12 men in the huddle penalty or needed to call a time out because of confusion on the offensive side of the ball? They've really done a fantastic job with all the first year players being worked in.

 

[Fencer]

In response to the thread title's question, I expect the Patriots to EVERYTHING the crap out of the Jets.

Indeed. No need to hold anything back. Just 2 games to go after this one.

ALso: No-huddle is an obvious choice on the first series of the game, if you get the ball first, because in that case it has almost no impact on how tired your own D gets.

 

[37Harrison]

I do see the Pats no huddling the crap out of the Jets. The Pats substitute extremely well and by no huddling will be able to get mismatches all over the field with certain packages. Woodhead/Welker in the backfield, motioning out or staying put. 2 & 3 TE sets with BJGE in the backfield and lining up in a power formation and PA out of that, so on and so forth.

The Jets D, scratch that, defenses just don't have the personnell to matchup with the Pats O.

 

[vat haha]

I do see the Pats no huddling the crap out of the Jets. The Pats substitute extremely well and by no huddling will be able to get mismatches all over the field with certain packages. Woodhead/Welker in the backfield, motioning out or staying put. 2 & 3 TE sets with BJGE in the backfield and lining up in a power formation and PA out of that, so on and so forth.

The Jets D, scratch that, defenses just don't have the personnell to matchup with the Pats O.

I think we will see a little bit of everything as the game evolves.
Jets cant stop Pats...only Pats can stop Pats.
We are going to see one jacked-up Patriot team come out for kick off boys and girls!!!!!!

 

[ausbacker]

Massive personnel changes, play-action, bulldozing runs, efficient passes.. nothing out of the ordinary for the Patriots. How this side has changed in the space of one season with an open playbook and players capable of delivering the expected performances.

 

[Kid~Brady]

I remember hearing about a recent game (perhaps the Jets game) that the Patriots had 27 different formations in the first 27 plays and I believe that this included 16 different personnel groupings. It makes heads spin for spectators who are trying to keep track; I'm sure it's even worse on the field for the defenders who are trying to figure out what the tendency is from a specific personnel grouping/formation when so much changes so frequently.

It really is a credit to BB and the Patriots that they make these changes so seamlessly. When's the last time the Pats had a 12 men in the huddle penalty or needed to call a time out because of confusion on the offensive side of the ball? They've really done a fantastic job with all the first year players being worked in.

True. I posted a thread about it, I think it was Dilfer that noticed the formations and said thats why its so hard to stop the offense. You have to be able to keep up with all the different formations, which always look different with different personnel.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Since the Jets have this tough guy self-image, I'd rather have Law Firm and Danny Woodhead combine for 300 yards on the ground and we stuff it down their throats.

But I'm good with any means of devastation.

I get the feeling that even another 45-3 rout would not shut them up. This fall they will talk the same old crap.

But in the meantime it would be nice to at least turn down their volume a few notches.

Our effort goes to 11. Theirs? Not so much. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do? Put it up to eleven.
:singing:

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I think you nailed it right on the head. Our enormous number of substitutions is something that really works in our favor, and I don't think we would stop doing that, but if as you say we catch them in a mismatch, you know Brady will get the green light to audible his way down the field, or if he sees something unusual (such as the last play against Chicago in the first half when he saw the deep cover two and held them inside with his eyes and threw outside where Branch had the leverage beat).

That is a big advantage that we have over them because Sanchez has no such privilege.

What? No green light?

That said, jays52's analysis was spot on. The 2010 offense is so potent because of the myriad variety of unfavorable match ups that the O can create and the QB's incredible ability to exploit them. Only Manning comes to mind as someone who also does this consistently, but the 2010 Pats offensive personnel with BJGE as downhill runner, Woodhead as the fast cutback guy, the potent mix of size, speed and YAC ability at TE and Welker and Branch's mastery of read, react and precise routes. So much to exploit.