OT: Haley stripped Weis of play calling duties

[Rob0729]

Report: Haley stripped play-calling duties from Weis | ProFootballTalk

Ironic since people say that Haley thinks he is the second coming of Bill Parcells. Like Parcells did while he was with the Jets, he stripped Charlie Weis of his playcalling duties. Probably why Weis hates Haley as much as he hates Parcells.

 

[makoute]

Was it for this game, or prior to this, because there were some WTH head scratching plays from that game yesterday.

 

[102 Pat]

Reading stuff like this makes me appreciate how good we have it as Patriot fans.

 

[reflexblue]

Report: Haley stripped play-calling duties from Weis | ProFootballTalk

Ironic since people say that Haley thinks he is the second coming of Bill Parcells. Like Parcells did while he was with the Jets, he stripped Charlie Weis of his playcalling duties. Probably why Weis hates Haley as much as he hates Parcells.

I remember that fourth down sweep and think wtf are they doing.

 

[Rob0729]

Was it for this game, or prior to this, because there were some WTH head scratching plays from that game yesterday.

It was for the second half including that stupid 4th down sweep.

 

[Deus Irae]

Over on the Chiefs site, they are doubting this report. Apparently, the guy who's making the claim is right about as often as Haley's comet makes an appearance.

 

[JMarr]

Forget Pioli, Crennel, Cassel, Vrabel etc.--as long as Haley is charge, the Chiefs will be the joke of a team that we saw yesterday.

As somebody said yesterday, the Hunts are in quite the catch 22 with Todd Haley as HC. As much as I dislike McDaniels, it is a no-brainer for them to bring him in as OC and get Cassel back on track, meaning Haley would have to go. problem solved.

 

[weswelker#83]

Was it for this game, or prior to this, because there were some WTH head scratching plays from that game yesterday.

Chiefs had the ball for 68 seconds in the 4th quarter.Tough to win a game if that's how you finish.

 

[Razor's Edge]

Yea but no matter who was making the calls, it wasn't the play caller turning the ball over with interceptions and fumbles

 

[bruce_w]

Forget Pioli, Crennel, Cassel, Vrabel etc.--as long as Haley is charge, the Chiefs will be the joke of a team that we saw yesterday.

As somebody said yesterday, the Hunts are in quite the catch 22 with Todd Haley as HC. As much as I dislike McDaniels, it is a no-brainer for them to bring him in as OC and get Cassel back on track, meaning Haley would have to go. problem solved.

Pioli's first big mistake. They had it going pretty good, Weis was doing an outstanding job. Everyone on that team knows it. Haley throws a fit because he can't stand Charlie and Romeo getting all the attention (because they are doing all the work and doing it the Patriot way). Haley was the Randy Moss of the Chiefs! So instead of backing team oriented hard working staff he follows a stupid chain of command rule and backs a self absorbed malcontent. IF BB had followed such rules Bledsoe would have got his job back when he was ready to return. It takes guts to make those decisions but in the end its pretty simple. Just do the right thing.

 

[Real American Hero]

The guy clearly lost all composure on the sidelines yesterday. How can someone who isn't thinking straight get the team to regather itself after a bad break or two. Maybe I am just embarassed because I actually did ultimately pick the Chiefs (based largely on the ex-Pat factor), but I was feeling pretty good with that pick in the first half and they came out with a little momentum in the 3rd until that stupid sweep at which point it was all over.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Over on the Chiefs site, they are doubting this report. Apparently, the guy who's making the claim is right about as often as Haley's comet makes an appearance.

That's because for reasons that elude me they have embraced Haley as their savior, think Pioli is just a suit, Cassel is worthless if he isn't Brady, have the same opinion of Charlie as Nem did and still think Herm and Croyle were on the verge of returning them to contention.

Another poster over there is claiming that not only did Charlie hate working with Haley, RAC does too and if the opportunity presents itself he too might jump ship.

They are almost to a man oblivious how far behind they remain talent wise, how many needs they have QB being the least of, what a rebuild entails or what the process is, how weak their competition was, etc. They don't understand that a Brady comes along once in a lifetime and having a next tier QB beats the hell out of Brody Croyle or some other jag and it isn't their turn to be cinderella... The Seahawks had dibs on that this week.

 

[Kontradiction]

IF this report is true, Pioli should introduce Haley to the unemployment line then get on the phone with McDaniels.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

I'm with Haley on this %100! I mean, what does Weis know anyway? The dude has only won 4 Super Bowls, with 3 being as the OC...

 

[Deus Irae]

That's because for reasons that elude me they have embraced Haley as their savior, think Pioli is just a suit, Cassel is worthless if he isn't Brady, have the same opinion of Charlie as Nem did and still think Herm and Croyle were on the verge of returning them to contention.

No, it's because they think the author of the report makes things up, and eyewitnesses at the game were refuting the report.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=240070

Even Whitlock, who spent the week bashing Haley, is skeptical:

Talk radio n KC crazy. Ease up on buying "Weis stripped of play-calling duties in 2nd half." May have happened. But need credible sourcing.

KC talk radio is place that reported Missouri to Big Ten. Hosts consistently make up stuff. PROCEED WITH CAUTION.

http://twitter.com/whitlockjason

The report might be true, and it might be false, but the source is apparently highly suspect.

 

[BTTA]

Probably just coincidence, but I was thinking that the play calling was remarkably good for the first 1/3 of the game (and that Weis was really nailing it) and that he just lost it for the rest of the game.

 

[Triumph]

Another poster over there is claiming that not only did Charlie hate working with Haley, RAC does too and if the opportunity presents itself he too might jump ship.

I can believe this.

Haley and Weis were fighting at training camp. There was a big brouhaha between Cassel and Haley before the Oakland meltdown where Haley pulled Cassel out of the game for some unexplained reason. Cassel tried to talk to Haley on the sidelines, but he just ignored Cassel. Play calling? That next week before the Oakland game, rumors were that Weis was leaving for UF.

Coincidence? I dont think so.

Haley seems very controlling to me. When on radio or TV, he talks himself up like hes the second coming of Belichick. Haley fought openly with Warner and Boldin on the AZ sidelines. Weis is also the second OC to be shown the door in two seasons.

 

[Deus Irae]

Follow up:

# More Cassel: "Throughout the entire season, if Todd feels strongly about something, he'll speak up and say, 'I want this' or 'I want that.'" 3 minutes ago via web

# I asked Cassel if there was any sign that Haley had taken the play calling from Weis during the game, he said, "Not at all." 4 minutes ago via web

# Just spoke w/Cassel. Asked about play calling changes, he said "Yesterday we were just operating as normal. I didn't notice any difference." 6 minutes ago via web

Nate Bukaty (nate_bukaty) on Twitter

 

[MoLewisrocks]

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Nate Bukaty (nate_bukaty) on Twitter

Matt learned well here, he is not about to get into it with the HC vs. the former OC.

Thinking back to yesterday one thing I did notice was that Haley didn't look like a guy who was surprised by the 4th and one call, just chagrinned that it didn't remotely work... In other words throughout the second half he wasn't nearly as animated as he usually is when things weren't going well. Whether that had to do with whose ideas or plans were being implemented and not working is anyone's guess... I was expecting more obvious involvement and fire out of him after burning a TO on the ridiculous challenge flag early on... And FWIW the HC calls 4th and inches based on having a play in the gameplan situational pipeline as something they are convinced will work. Personally at 6'5" I'd have just had Matt fall forward...

 

[UofApatsfan]

Forget Pioli, Crennel, Cassel, Vrabel etc.--as long as Haley is charge, the Chiefs will be the joke of a team that we saw yesterday.

As somebody said yesterday, the Hunts are in quite the catch 22 with Todd Haley as HC. As much as I dislike McDaniels, it is a no-brainer for them to bring him in as OC and get Cassel back on track, meaning Haley would have to go. problem solved.

He'd get Cassel back on track and in the process derail the great running game KC has established.