Offensive & Defensive snaps for 2010

[Deus Irae]

Reiss has this on his blog. I think there are some very interesting numbers here:

QB Tom Brady -- 962 of 1,012 (95.1 percent)
TE Rob Gronkowski -- 756 of 1,012 (74.7 percent)
WR Wes Welker -- 715 of 1,012 (70.7 percent)
TE Alge Crumpler -- 540 of 1,012 (53.4 percent)
WR Deion Branch -- 521 of 1,012 (51.5 percent)
WR Brandon Tate -- 502 of 1,012 (49.6 percent)
TE Aaron Hernandez -- 486 of 1,012 (48.0 percent)
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis -- 423 of 1,012 (41.8 percent)
RB Danny Woodhead -- 394 of 1,012 (38.9 percent)
WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 1,012 (20.2 percent)
WR Julian Edelman -- 174 of 1,012 (17.2 percent)
FB/RB Sammy Morris -- 123 of 1,012 (12.3 percent)
RB Fred Taylor -- 68 of 1,012 (6.7 percent)
RB Kevin Faulk -- 51 of 1,012 (5.0 percent)
QB Brian Hoyer -- 50 of 1,012 (4.9 percent)
FB Dan Connolly -- 30 of 1,012 (3.0 percent)
WR Taylor Price -- 26 of 1,012 (2.6 percent)
WR Matthew Slater - 25 of 1,012 (2.5 percent)
TE Quinn Ojinnaka -- 4 of 1,012 (.4 percent)
TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 1,012 (.1 percent)

(Snaps include some penalties, but no kneel-downs.)

Offensive snaps for 2010 season - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

Thanks to Mike Reiss for charting this all season, and people should give the man his due and click on the link to read his analysis.

 

[Sicilian]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

Reiss has been great for this all year long. Kudos to him for the effort!

Gronk having that many snaps makes sense from a strategy standpoint (with Alge being mostly a blocker and Aaron being mostly a receiver, Gronk is the only TE who would fit both roles equally well), it's still surprising that he was able to make that kind of contribution as a rookie. Way to go Gronk!

 

[BradyManny]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

I've had to eat crow in many threads here, so I'm going to pat myself on the back for calling for multiple TE sets and less spread/gun since long before we even drafted our TE studs.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

I think those numbers tell us a lot about the offense. I look particularly at:

1.) Gronk being behind only Brady in snaps taken

2.) Branch overtaking Tate despite coming late to the party

3.) Woodhead not being far behind BJGE despite coming to the team late

 

[Kasmir]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

As I pointed out in the Woodhead thread, Woodhead had almost as many snaps as BJGE despite missing the first two games and most of the last. When he's played, Woodhead actually is on the field more than BJGE.

 

[Calciumee]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

As I pointed out in the Woodhead thread, Woodhead had almost as many snaps as BJGE despite missing the first two games and most of the last. When he's played, Woodhead actually is on the field more than BJGE.

Which makes BJGE's 1000 yards even more impressive

 

[Fencer]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

I think those numbers tell us a lot about the offense. I look particularly at:

1.) Gronk being behind only Brady in snaps taken

2.) Branch overtaking Tate despite coming late to the party

3.) Woodhead not being far behind BJGE despite coming to the team late

Faulk and Woodhead combined are a little behind BJGE and Taylor combined, but just a little. 48% vs. 44% That's why I assert the Faulk/Woodhead role is about as important as the traditional RB role, and hence why I think there's roster room for both Faulk and Woodhead in it.

Branch and Moss combined are very near Welker, around 70% each.

I'd say the default set is:

• Brady
• Gronkowski
• Welker
• Branch
• Hernandez (when healthy)
• Whichever of BJGE or Woodhead makes more sense.

But as we know, there's huge variation around that.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

I would say that the 2nd TE is whichever of Crumpler and Hernandez that makes more sense.

Also, I was interested to see that Tate was in on almost 50% of the defensive reps.

Faulk and Woodhead combined are a little behind BJGE and Taylor combined, but just a little. 48% vs. 44% That's why I assert the Faulk/Woodhead role is about as important as the traditional RB role, and hence why I think there's roster room for both Faulk and Woodhead in it.

Branch and Moss combined are very near Welker, around 70% each.

I'd say the default set is:

• Brady
• Gronkowski
• Welker
• Branch
• Hernandez (when healthy)
• Whichever of BJGE or Woodhead makes more sense.

But as we know, there's huge variation around that.

 

[jmt57]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

If you told me back on Labor Day that Faulk, Morris, Taylor and Maroney would get on the field for less than 1/4 of the Pats' offensive plays this year and then asked me to bet an over/under on 13.5 wins this year, I would have taken the under regardless of the odds.


I wonder if Mark LeVoir gets a bonus for actually getting on the field this year?

 

[jmt57]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

Reiss now has the defensive snaps, and his analysis in the link below:

2010 Patriots defensive snap count - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

LB Jerod Mayo -- 1,066 of 1,101 (96.8 percent)
CB Devin McCourty -- 1,050 of 1,101 (95.4 percent)
S Brandon Meriweather -- 881 of 1,101 (80.0 percent)
CB Kyle Arrington -- 849 of 1,101 (77.1 percent)
S Patrick Chung -- 796 of 1,101 (72.3 percent)
S James Sanders -- 779 of 1,101 (70.8 percent)
DL Vince Wilfork -- 769 of 1,101 (69.8 percent)
OLB/DE Tully Banta-Cain -- 734 of 1,101 (66.7 percent)
LB Gary Guyton - 628 of 1,101 (57.0 percent)
OLB/DE Jermaine Cunningham -- 560 of 1,101 (50.9 percent)
OLB/DE Rob Ninkovich -- 518 of 1,101 (47.0 percent)
DL Gerard Warren -- 505 of 1,101 (45.9 percent)
CB Darius Butler -- 381 of 1,101 (34.6 percent)
ILB Brandon Spikes -- 349 of 1,101 (31.7 percent)
DL Mike Wright -- 316 of 1,101 (28.7 percent)
DL Ron Brace -- 283 of 1,101 (25.7 perecent)
DL Myron Pryor -- 237 of 1,101 (21.5 percent)
DL Brandon Deaderick -- 220 of 1,101 (20.0 percent)
CB Jonathan Wilhite-- 204 of 1,101 (18.5 percent)
S Jarrad Page -- 186 of 1,101 (16.9 percent)
OLB/DE Eric Moore -- 183 of 1,101 (16.6 percent)
LB Dane Fletcher -- 153 of 1,101 (13.9 percent)
DL Kyle Love -- 151 of 1,101 (13.7 percent)
OLB/DE Shawn Crable -- 124 of 1,101 (11.3 percent)
S Sergio Brown -- 86 of 1,101 (7.8 percent)
DL Landon Cohen -- 69 of 1,101 (6.3 percent)
CB Tony Carter -- 12 of 1,101 (1.1 percent)
LB/DE Pierre Woods -- 11 of 1,101 (1.0 percent)
OLB/DE Marques Murrell -- 7 of 1,101 (.6 percent)
S Aaron Hernandez -- 2 of 1,101 (.2 percent)
LB Tracy White -- 2 of 1,101 (.2 percent)
S Randy Moss -- 1 of 1,101 (.1 percent)

Based on who got the most snaps, I guess the Pats base defense is now a 1-5-5 rather than a 3-4. Of the six players on the field most often, they were all DBs with the exception of Jerod Mayo.

 

[ATippett56]

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[JackBauer]

Meriweather played the third most snaps, you say? Clearly he is a liability, and should be jettisoned with all deliberate speed.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Offensive snaps for 2010

Our "base" defense is the 3-4. In the 3-4, it is not unusual for the #2 DL to have only 45% of the reps (as Warren did last year and Warren did this year). The unusual thing about this year's line numbers in that Wilfork was in there so much.

As yes, as would be expected from a 14-2 team, we were in the nickel a lot. Because of our weakness at CB depth (Wilhite #4 and no #5), the safeties got lots and lots of work.

Reiss now has the defensive snaps, and his analysis in the link below:

2010 Patriots defensive snap count - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston



Based on who got the most snaps, I guess the Pats base defense is now a 1-5-5 rather than a 3-4. Of the six players on the field most often, they were all DBs with the exception of Jerod Mayo.

 

[mgteich]

Apparently it is only Belichick, the staff and the probowl voters who value Meriweather's play.

Posters here know much better.

Meriweather played the third most snaps, you say? Clearly he is a liability, and should be jettisoned with all deliberate speed.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Yet the much maligned James Sanders put up similar stats in fewer snaps while Chung put up better stats in fewer snaps due to injury as opposed to losing his starting slot due to attitude adjustment. Go figure...

 

[JackBauer]

Yet the much maligned James Sanders put up similar stats in fewer snaps while Chung put up better stats in fewer snaps due to injury as opposed to losing his starting slot due to attitude adjustment. Go figure...

Excellent argument. By that logic, we can conclude Suh is pretty much the greatest player ever while Wilfork is a notch above pedestrian.

 

[unoriginal]

Based on who got the most snaps, I guess the Pats base defense is now a 1-5-5 rather than a 3-4. Of the six players on the field most often, they were all DBs with the exception of Jerod Mayo.

As would be expected from a 14-2 team, we were in the nickel a lot. Because of our weakness at CB depth (Wilhite #4 and no #5), the safeties got lots and lots of work.

If you add up the totals for each position group, and discarding the two offensive players, you end up with:

DB 	5224
LB 	4335
DL 	2550

which works out to

DL	2.3
LB 	3.9
DB 	4.7

per snap. So a 2-4-5 big nickel.

 

[RutgersFan]

From the defensive list, and then include special teams, I would be willing to bet McCourty played more snaps than any rookie in the NFL and more than almost all players in the NFL. Rookie wall?? More like a 3' fence.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Excellent argument. By that logic, we can conclude Suh is pretty much the greatest player ever while Wilfork is a notch above pedestrian.

Shhh... no matter how sarcastic you are, I wouldn't put it past this place for that narrative to catch on. Considering how quickly they turned on Seymour, turning on Wilfork isn't exactly out of the question.

Agreed. though; anyone who solely uses stats to compare safety play probably isn't worth listening to. "My guy got more interceptions and tackles so he's better herp derp!" Bottom line, Belichick wouldn't have Meriweather on the field for 80+% of snaps if he thought the guys behind him could do his job better than he could.

 

[West Philly Patriot]

Shhh... no matter how sarcastic you are, I wouldn't put it past this place for that narrative to catch on. Considering how quickly they turned on Seymour, turning on Wilfork isn't exactly out of the question.

Agreed. though; anyone who solely uses stats to compare safety play probably isn't worth listening to. "My guy got more interceptions and tackles so he's better herp derp!" Bottom line, Belichick wouldn't have Meriweather on the field for 80+% of snaps if he thought the guys behind him could do his job better than he could.

Point. Blank. Period.