What Happens if Jets win, Pats win

[Dutchmaster617]

If we win tonight and lose the next two, and the Jets win out the Pats and Jets would both be 12-4. The Jets would win the tiebreaker because we would have 3 division losses (Bills, Fins, Jets) and the Jets would have 2 division losses (Pats, Fins).

However, if we lose tonight than win 1 of the next 2 we would both be 14-2 again, except we would both have an equal division record (Jets loosing to Pats + Fins, Pats loosing to Jets + Fins/Bills). The next tiebreaker goes to strength of victory which the Patriots would win.

I see, so the idea is IF we lose to BUF and MIA, that is one huge if so I guess it will be an unofficial clincher tonight.

 

[BTTA]

Pats can lose tonight, and all we need to do is win 1 of the final 2 and we will have the first seed, even if the Jets and Steelers win out. . We will still have the SOV tiebreaker of the Jets

But if both teams end up at 12-4, which is the only tie possibility, then the SOV won't matter. The Jets get the division, period, based on division record.

Can we please put this to bed?

 

[Kid~Brady]

I believe we need to win 2 out of the next 3 to get the # 1 seed if the Jets and Steelers win out, correct?

True but lets just hope we win all of our next 3 games!

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

I've done the math and confirmed that it's now mathematically impossible for the Patriots to lose SOV versus the Jets, no matter what happens from here out.

So, basically two clinch scenarios:

1) Patriots win against the Bills or Fins.

2) Patriots win tonight and the Jets lose one.

So, the answer my own question, if the Jets win out, a win tonight does zilch, other than keeping momentum going.

 

[JustEndTheSeason]

But if both teams end up at 12-4, which is the only tie possibility, then the SOV won't matter. The Jets get the division, period, based on division record.

Can we please put this to bed?

Not necessarily. Look at the following scenarios, each scenario assumes the Jets win their final 2 games (Bears, Bills)

Scenario 1: Pats lose next 3. Jets: 12-4, Pats 11-5 (Packers, Bills, Fins)
Jets have better record, win division.

Scenario 2: Pats win against Packers, lose final 2 games against Bills/Fins. Jets: 12-4, Pats 12-4
Jets and Pats have equal record. Jets win division because they have a better division record (Pats lost to Jets, Fins, Bills and the Jets lost to Pats, Fins)

Scenario 3: Pats lose against Packers, win 1 of the final 2 against Bills/Fins. Jets 12-4, Pats 12-4
Jets and Pats have equal record. Pats win division due to strength of victory. Both teams would have the same division record (Pats lost to Jets, Fins/Bills and the Jets lost to Pats, Fins), so the next tiebreaker would be strength of victory.

Basically, if we get a win against the Bills or Dolphins, we are guaranteed the #1 seed no matter what happens tonight.

 

[Michael]

im not sure what happens if jets win

They're fans start yelling about going to the Super Bowl.

 

[ATippett56]

After the Jets beat the Steelers today, the New England Patriots better pummel a Green Bay Packers team starting a backup quarterback for the first time in his career. Anything less than a convincing victory tonight at Gillette Stadium, the New England Patriots don't deserve a playoff seeding.

 

[gmtaxi27]

The game is not totally meaningless. If we win tonight, we can win the division with a Jets loss. Regardless of what we do the next 2 games. A loss tonight would require us to win out even if the Jets lose next week.

 

[JustEndTheSeason]

A loss tonight would require us to win out even if the Jets lose next week.

Nope, we would only need to win one game, not both if we lose tonight.

 

[Jackson 2]

After the Jets beat the Steelers today, the New England Patriots better pummel a Green Bay Packers team starting a backup quarterback for the first time in his career. Anything less than a convincing victory tonight at Gillette Stadium, the New England Patriots don't deserve a playoff seeding.

Keep on toking, brother...light 'em up!!!

 

[ATippett56]

Keep on toking, brother...light 'em up!!!

The New England Patriots defense looked like the Keystone Cops against a backup quarterback in his first NFL start! I'm sure Bill Belichick is thrilled with the performance of his team after this game.