Idle thought....

[patfanken]

...just one thought. I don't want to overburden my mind with thoughtS since this is a big game.....and I'm old,

It occurred to me that Monday night is going to be a bit chilly. Nothing much by NE standards, just in the low 30's, high 20's. Still I seem to recall that Senor Franchize isn't exactly in love with our weather. Wasn't the first time he played in the real cold the last time he played in Foxboro?

No one has made mention of it, but Sanchez only played 2 other games besides that, in the cold weather. The first was against a Bengal team who was taking the day off, and that same hapless Bengal team in the Playoffs, where IIRC, he wasn't much of a factor in the win.

So while the weather is "supposed" to be clear, we won't know about the wind until that day. I don't think the "sanchize" likes the cold, and he CERTAINLY doesn't have Tom's experience with bad weather. It might not be much, but its something I haven't heard much about this week....and its something.

BTW- I can't help but notice that there are some OTHER people on this board and in the media, who are NOW lauding, yours truly's favorite CB. Sorry but I just couldn't stop myself.

 

[DarrylS]

OTOH it is also the first "cold" game for Spikes, Cunningham, Gronkowski, Hernandez and a few of the other young un's.. Mesko also may have had limited cold weather games as well as the college season usually is ending by this weekend.

I get all the news I need from the weather report:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClic...BOX&textField1=42.063&textField2=-71.2493&e=1

Monday: A slight chance of snow showers after 4pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 38. West wind between 9 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Monday Night: A slight chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

 

[reflexblue]

Mccourty island.. The newly discovered.. I'm going to toot my own horn, back in the beginning of the season I said mccourty looked like a veteren, that he was the best cb the pats had taken since ty "feed my family" law.

 

[N.Eman]

Mccourty island.. The newly discovered.. I'm going to toot my own horn, back in the beginning of the season I said mccourty looked like a veteren, that he was the best cb the pats had taken since ty "feed my family" law.

hahaha classic!!! McCourtys uncharted island, SAMs missle locked on JETS a.k.a JESTS

 

[ATippett56]

BTW- I can't help but notice that there are some OTHER people on this board and in the media, who are NOW lauding, yours truly's favorite CB. Sorry but I just couldn't stop myself.

McCourty was a first round draft pick. Should you expect less from a first round draft pick?

New England Patriots First Round Draft Picks

2001 Richard Seymour
2002 Daniel Graham
2003 Ty Warren
2004 Vince Wilfork
2004 Ben Watson
2005 Logan Mankins
2006 Laurence Maroney
2007 Brandon Meriweather
2008 Jerod Mayo

 

[Dufflebagz]

OTOH it is also the first "cold" game for Spikes, Cunningham, Gronkowski, Hernandez and a few of the other young un's.. Mesko also may have had limited cold weather games as well as the college season usually is ending by this weekend.

I get all the news I need from the weather report:

7-Day Forecast for Latitude 42.07N and Longitude 71.23W

Hernandez is from CT and Gronk is from the Buffalo area, so you know he knows about the cold.

 

[Nikolai]

OTOH it is also the first "cold" game for Spikes, Cunningham, Gronkowski, Hernandez and a few of the other young un's.. Mesko also may have had limited cold weather games as well as the college season usually is ending by this weekend.

Gronkowski and Hernandez were born and raised and played high school football in cold weather. Cunningham was born in NYC, but I don't know how long he stayed there since he played in GA during high school. Either way, the two big weapons will be fine, even if you believe as a rule that a bit of cold weather will have a drastic effect on players.

 

[PatsFan2]

McCourty was a first round draft pick. Should you expect less from a first round draft pick?

New England Patriots First Round Draft Picks

2001 Richard Seymour
2002 Daniel Graham
2003 Ty Warren
2004 Vince Wilfork
2004 Ben Watson
2005 Logan Mankins
2006 Laurence Maroney
2007 Brandon Meriweather
2008 Jerod Mayo

Who would have thought our Best Offensive pick would be a OG Logan Mankings in the Pioli era? Think of the flameout Offensive picks Graham = didn't live up the First Round billing. Ben Watson = tease; Maroney = Bust! Pioli sucked on the Offensive side of the Ball but hit homeruns on the Defensive side.

 

[Brady2Welker]

The cold weather will affect the quarterback, more than the receivers. Unless there's snow/rain on the ground which changes the traction passrushers/offensive line have to play, Brady and Sanchez will be really the only two people who will have to work to deal with it.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The cold weather will affect the quarterback, more than the receivers. Unless there's snow/rain on the ground which changes the traction passrushers/offensive line have to play, Brady and Sanchez will be really the only two people who will have to work to deal with it.

Last I checked only Bart Starr did better than TB in cold weather games.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Gronkowski and Hernandez were born and raised and played high school football in cold weather. Cunningham was born in NYC, but I don't know how long he stayed there since he played in GA during high school. Either way, the two big weapons will be fine, even if you believe as a rule that a bit of cold weather will have a drastic effect on players.

Also, on Mesko, though he didn't punt in the snow or anything regularly, he's played in many cold-weather games at home and on the road in the Big 10.

As for Sanchez, I don't think the cold weather is the issue so much as the wind is. He doesn't have the arm to cut through windy conditions. If it's cold but not windy, I don't expect it to bother him too much.

Looking at the back-to-back Bengals games, both were around 20 degrees, but the regular season game had the wind at 27 mph. Sanchez went 8 for 16 for 63 yards that game. The week after, in the cold again but with winds at 9 mph, he was 12 of 15 for 182 yards and a TD, very respectable numbers for a rookie QB in his first post-season game in a cold-weather game on the road.

 

[DaBruinz]

OTOH it is also the first "cold" game for Spikes, Cunningham, Gronkowski, Hernandez and a few of the other young un's.. Mesko also may have had limited cold weather games as well as the college season usually is ending by this weekend.

I get all the news I need from the weather report:

7-Day Forecast for Latitude 42.07N and Longitude 71.23W

Hernandez grew up in Bristol, CT.. He's played in cold weather.

And let's not act like they don't get cold weather in NC or Georgia.. They do.. I can speak from experience.. It's not the blistering 15-20 that it get's in New England, but they get down below zero more often than they like to admit.

Mesko grew up and played High School ball in Ohio.

 

[Nikolai]

And let's not act like they don't get cold weather in NC or Georgia.. They do.. I can speak from experience.. It's not the blistering 15-20 that it get's in New England, but they get down below zero more often than they like to admit.

Of course, high school and college football is generally done by the time temps get that low. Having grown up and lived much of my life on the VA-NC border, the earliest I ever saw temps get below 20F was in late December 2004. It was actually 11F one morning with a powdery dusting of snow. That's pretty rare though. Usually it's mid-40s during the day and lower-30s at night.

 

[DarrylS]

Gronkowski and Hernandez were born and raised and played high school football in cold weather. Cunningham was born in NYC, but I don't know how long he stayed there since he played in GA during high school. Either way, the two big weapons will be fine, even if you believe as a rule that a bit of cold weather will have a drastic effect on players.

Living in cold weather and playing FB in cold weather are two different things.. most High Schools complete their seasons prior to the advent of serious weather, and for these guys they played the college game in the South. Mesko played at Michigan and their season ended on Nov. 21, 2009 at Ohio..

The ball takes on a different dimension.. probably will not make much difference, comments intended to counter the effect on Sanchez...

 

[Steamer86]

Who would have thought our Best Offensive pick would be a OG Logan Mankings in the Pioli era? Think of the flameout Offensive picks Graham = didn't live up the First Round billing. Ben Watson = tease; Maroney = Bust! Pioli sucked on the Offensive side of the Ball but hit homeruns on the Defensive side.

The Pioli era was when Pioli was gathering information, dialing phones and sharpening pencils for his boss. He was not the decision maker. He was one of the best at making sure the big man had enough pretzels and diet coke to get through 10 straight hours, so the hooded one could work his draft day magic.

 

[Off The Grid]

BTW- I can't help but notice that there are some OTHER people on this board and in the media, who are NOW lauding, yours truly's favorite CB. Sorry but I just couldn't stop myself.

Ummm....

Not to rain on your parade or anything, Brother Ken...

But you didn't exactly unilaterally discover McCourty, you know.

 

[jczxohn1]

While the weather may have an effect on Sanchez, the most obvious negative may be on our replacement place kicker. Maybe some squibs to keep the ball away from Brad Smith on a short field?

 

[Metaphors]

No one has made mention of it, but Sanchez only played 2 other games besides that, in the cold weather. The first was against a Bengal team who was taking the day off, and that same hapless Bengal team in the Playoffs, where IIRC, he wasn't much of a factor in the win.

He had one other game against the Falcons. About the same conditions he will face Monday except it was a sunny afternoon game (which makes a difference). The San-grenade blew up throwing 3 picks in a game that should have eliminated the Jets from playoff contention (the one time I actually agreed with Rex).

Sanchez played almost all of his college games in California, except a game or two in Arizona or Oregon, where I believe he actually lost. Considering he playing in the AFC East, he hasn't faced too many games where weather was a factor. I mean, even their late Buffalo game last year was in Toronto. That changes now and I imagine Sanchez will be lucky to see the plus side of freezing the rest of the year...

Foxboro at night
Meadowlands late afternoon against Fins
Heinz field late afternoon
Soldier Field day after Christmas
Meadowlands day after New Years against Bills

 

[NYCPatsFan]

Mccourty island.. The newly discovered.. .

Oh please! Do you have to copy the Jets in naming convention???

 

[upstater1]

Living in cold weather and playing FB in cold weather are two different things.. most High Schools complete their seasons prior to the advent of serious weather, and for these guys they played the college game in the South. Mesko played at Michigan and their season ended on Nov. 21, 2009 at Ohio..

The ball takes on a different dimension.. probably will not make much difference, comments intended to counter the effect on Sanchez...

Connecticut is still playing high school football and the Buffalo area gets to 30 degrees in mid-October.