Patriots/Jets recent (latest 5 games of 2010) numbers

[Deus Irae]

I thought I'd throw out a few numbers to get the discussions rolling with some data*. If anyone finds a mistake in the numbers, please let me know and I'll update the O.P. for as long as time allows.

Record
Patriots: 4-1
Jets: 4-1

Opponent records/winning percentages
Patriots: 21-30 (.412)
Jets: 18-34 (.346)

Scoring (for)
Patriots: 157
Jets: 105

Scoring (against)
Patriots: 120
Jets: 86

Scoring differential
Patriots: 37 (7.4 ppg)
Jets: 19 (3.8 ppg)

Offensive turnovers
Patriots: 3
Jets: 9

Defensive turnovers
Patriots: 8
Jets: 6

Penalties
Patriots: 25
Jets: 39

QB completions/attempts/percentage
Brady: 105/158/66.5%
Sanchez: 103/187/55.1%

QB passing yards/yards per attempt
Brady: 1341/8.5
Sanchez: 1372/7.3

QB TDs/INTs
Brady: 12/0
Sanchez: 7/6

Rushing attempts/yards/ypc/TDs
Patriots: 130/570/4.38/8
Jets: 172/674/3.92/3


* Just a note for those wondering about the choice of 5 games... That's going back to the later bye week, which was the Jets, in week 7. No other reasoning for that being the cutoff date is/was intended.

 

[51Hits]

Looking at those numbers I think we can all come to the conclusion that Sanchez is as great as Jets fans say he is.:bricks:

 

[strngplyr]

It would be awesome to repeat the home game vs the Jets from last season. Replace Bodden w/ McCourty and good to go!

 

[andrewgarrr]

Looks like things bode well for us.

But as a great man once said, stats are for losers.

 

[Kid~Brady]

Replace Bodden w/ McCourty and good to go!

No, replace Bodden with Arrington and we are good to go!

 

[Water Boy]

I don't have last 5 game stats but here are season rushing stats to add to the mix:

Attempts/Yards per carry/Yards per game/TDs

NYJ 33.2/4.5/148.1/9
NEP 26.5/4.3/112.5/13

 

[Willie55]

I thought I'd throw out a few numbers to get the discussions rolling with some data*. If anyone finds a mistake in the numbers, please let me know and I'll update the O.P. for as long as time allows.

Record
Patriots: 4-1
Jets: 4-1

Opponent records/winning percentages
Patriots: 21-30 (.412)
Jets: 18-34 (.346)

Scoring (for)
Patriots: 157
Jets: 105

Scoring (against)
Patriots: 120
Jets: 86

Scoring differential
Patriots: 37 (7.4 ppg)
Jets: 19 (3.8 ppg)

Offensive turnovers
Patriots: 3
Jets: 9

Defensive turnovers
Patriots: 8
Jets: 6

Penalties
Patriots: 25
Jets: 39

QB completions/attempts/percentage
Brady: 105/158/66.5%
Sanchez: 103/187/55.1%

QB passing yards/yards per attempt
Brady: 1341/8.5
Sanchez: 1372/7.3

QB TDs/INTs
Brady: 12/0
Sanchez: 7/6


* Just a note for those wondering about the choice of 5 games... That's going back to the later bye week, which was the Jets, in week 7. No other reasoning for that being the cutoff date is/was intended.

When the Pats played the Jets the first time Sanchez was in the midst of a 9/0 td/int streak to start the season. Seems to be things have turned around and Sanchez has come back to earth.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't have last 5 game stats but here are season rushing stats to add to the mix:

Attempts/Yards per carry/Yards per game/TDs

NYJ 33.2/4.5/148.1/9
NEP 26.5/4.3/112.5/13

I added in the rushing data for the five game stretch. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

 

[Deus Irae]

Just bumping for the numbers geeks.

 

[andrewgarrr]

This is said all the time but, if we win the turnover ratio we win the game.

 

[jmt57]

Offensive turnovers
Patriots: 3
Jets: 9

Defensive turnovers
Patriots: 8
Jets: 6

Penalties
Patriots: 25
Jets: 39

I'm not trying to cherry pick stats; I'm honestly trying to be objective as possible. But I really do believe that as far as stats go, way too many people are overlooking the effect of turnovers. In those last five games the Pats are +5; the Jets are -3.

If that trend continues - as well as that penalty differential - then the Pats should be in good shape. And on next Tuesday morning some columnist will wondering how the Jets had more yardage but lost.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

bumping this for people who like a fact-based analysis.

 

[Rob0729]

It does appear that even watching the games that the Pats have pulled ahead of the Jets. The numbers support that. I think the Jets are relying on the marquee names on their roster and reputation to get the "best team in the NFL" or "Most complete team in the NFL" status in a lot of people's minds.

The funny thing is even the Jets fans who watch every game are buying into the hype. They ask "How will Brady pass on this defense?" or "How can the Pats stop the Jets powerhouse running?". My response is "The same way the Broncos, Lions, Browns, and Packers did it". Apparently, the Jets fans haven't been watching to see their defense collapse in games and their running game go nowhere.

 

[aluminum seats]

The stat that jumps out to me is rushing yards, which confirms what I've seen in watching all of the Pats and Jets games.

On the Jets specifically, it appears that Tomlinson has lost a bit of the burst that he had seemed to regain this year, which was probably to be expected. At this point, while improved, Sanchez hasn't had the ability to comfortably win games with his arm--so the Jets have struggled (to put it mildly) to put away these lesser teams.

To be fair, Sanchez had done what he needed to do to win the games at the end. Teams do that enough, they start to believe they can always do it.

Having said that, the Pats should control the Jets running game on Monday. Since the Pats' offense is running at such peak efficiency lately, that will likely lead Sanchez to force some things, leading to turnovers.

 

[Deus Irae]

In the past 5 games, the Jets have faced scoring defenses ranked the following:

Green Bay #1: Jets shut out in loss
Lions #25: Jets score 17 in regulation and 3 in overtime
Browns #12: Jets score 20 in regulation and 6 in overtime
Texans #26: Jets score 30
Bengals #27: Jets score 26

In the past 5 games, the Patriots have faced scoring defenses ranked the following:

Vikings #13: Patriots score 28
Browns #12: Patriots score 14 in loss
Steelers #3: Patriots score 39
Colts #18: Patriots score 31
Lions #25: Patriots score 45

 

[Dragda]

An important stat that is not included is third down coversion % for and against. I'd look it up, but I never look stuff up.

 

[aluminum seats]

An important stat that is not included is third down coversion % for and against. I'd look it up, but I never look stuff up.

That's just great. We really appreciate the post.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

I added in the rushing data for the five game stretch. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Related to the rushing numbers, I took a deeper look for another thread and found that a lot of it is related to Brad Smith in the Seminole package. Sorry if this is a repeat for some, just copying/pasting the relevant part.

The Jets running game has really struggled in recent weeks. They're averaging 148 yards per game and 4.5 YPC, but if you look at the last 6 games, they're averaging 133 yards per game and 3.9 YPC, mostly on the strength of the Seminole offense with Brad Smith. Smith has 17 carries for 133 yards over the past 6 games, a healthy 7.8 YPC. Subtract that and the main running game averages 110 yards per game and less than 3.6 YPC.

Tomlinson seems to be fading. In his first 5 games, he averaged 87 yards per game and 5.7 YPC. He was consistent as well, running for at least 60 yards and 4.7 YPC each game.

Since then, Tomlinson hasn't broken 60 yards or 3.8 YPC, averaging 51 yards on 3.4 YPC with only 2 runs of 10 yards or more.

Shonn Greene has been very inconsistent all season, with only one strong game against one of the worst run defenses in Buffalo. With Tomlinson struggling, Greene has gotten more carries over the past 3 weeks, averaging 17 carries for less than 3.5 YPC.

So if we can hold Brad Smith in the Seminole in check, we have a good chance of shutting down the run game.

 

[ATippett56]

An important stat that is not included is third down coversion % for and against. I'd look it up, but I never look stuff up.

NFL Website for team stats:

NFL Stats: Team

Offense 3rd Down Conversions:

NFL Stats: by Team Category

 

[ATippett56]

An important stat that is not included is third down coversion % for and against. I'd look it up, but I never look stuff up.

NFL Website for team stats:

NFL Stats: Team

Defense 3rd Down Conversions:

NFL Stats: by Team Category