Brady pissed off at the end of game

[Bella*chick]

Brady wasn't mad at the Colts, he was angry at the refs for not calling it, I think. At least he was yelling at the refs, not the Colts.

Yep, and good for Tom. The Colts are sneaky bastards, but I also understand why they did it.

If WE had done it and it worked and we got away with it, I'd have thought it was awesome.

 

[shmessy]

Brady wasn't mad at the Colts, he was angry at the refs for not calling it, I think. At least he was yelling at the refs, not the Colts.

He was mad at both. The Colt defender also.

#51 or #53.

See the video at the 1:56 mark:

YouTube - Patriots vs Colts (Nov. 21 2010)

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Here's a little insight as to why Brady was exactly right to be mad.

The clock would have been stopped if the Patriots had moved and a penalty had been called on them and not on the Colts (i.e. had the Colts succeeded in what they were TRYING to do). That would have let them preserve their 2 timeouts and they could have forced extra snaps (leading to a small but real chance of a fumble) and maybe even a punt, I'd have to look at the tape to know for sure the time situation.

But even if there was not time and timeouts available to force a punt, just forcing extra snaps can be significant. Teams have lost due to a fumbled exchange while trying to run out the clock. One was the most famous play in the HISTORY of Tennessee football and it allowed them the chance to win a national championship.

That's also why as the apparently losing team, you still use ALL of your timeouts and you make them kneel down, just in case they fumble the exchange.

here's the Tennesee play I mentioned:

Leading #1 Tennessee 24-21 with 1:43 to play, all the Razorbacks needed to do was run 3 plays and run out the clock. Their QB Clint Stoerner fumbled the snap on 2nd down, Tennessee recovered, went on to score and preserve their 1998 national championship season with 28-24 victory. Some call it luck. Some like destiny. Some say Stoerner was careless. Others say UT defenders Billy Ratliff and Darwin Walker got such a push that they drove the center's leg into Stoerner and created disaster. Either way, Stoerner lost his balance off the snap and reached down to try and brace himself. And he left the ball behind.

On this night, Arkansas was introducing themselves to The Clint Stoerner Face. It's that look of nothingness. When you were so sure you had the game won, beyond any shadow of a doubt, and you were in massive celebration mode...and then somehow, inexplicably, it was all taken away from you in rapid, heartbreaking fashion.

Tennessee Volunteers' 1998 National Championship: Part VII | Bleacher Report
SouthEastern Sports Blog: 10 Years: The 1998 Tennessee Volunteers Part Seven - The Stumble and Fumble

 

[PatsDeb]

Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why he was so angry.

Me too. I thought it was because they called a time out the first time Brady took a knee.

 

[UofApatsfan]

Can someone explain what exactly the Colts did wrong, is there a rule against D-linemen yelling before the snap?

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Can someone explain what exactly the Colts did wrong, is there a rule against D-linemen yelling before the snap?

Absolutely. It's a rule that has been called before and it has almost cost teams GAMES before. An example of it NOT being called when it should have been was the Jets (under Mangini) doing it vs. the Ravens and drawing three illegal procedure penalties to help close a 20-3 deficit to 20-13: Billick: Jets 'illegally' simulated snap count vs. Ravens - USATODAY.com

also: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/sports/football/19jets.html

What Baltimore Coach Brian Billick accused the Jets of doing Sunday during their 20-13 loss to the Ravens is disconcerting. That is not an opinion. It is the term that appears on Page 87 of the National Football League rules book — under unsportsmanlike conduct, Rule 12, Section 3 — for the use of acts or words designed to confuse an offensive team at the snap.

here is one writers' take:

Tom Brady furious at the Colts defensive line; but happy about everything else | From the Bleachers | IrishCentral

Unbelievably bush-league on the part of the Colts. No big deal, no big drama, just childish and pathetic. Kind of sad from an organisation that is so professional most of the time. Brady was rightly furious at the Colts pathetic tactics and, as everyone saw, barked at the referees on the final snap...The bizarre aspect to this is what the Colts were hoping to achieve? Say for example if the Patriots had committed a false-start penalty. It would have been 2nd and 15 and the Patriots would have re-grouped and then run the ball down the throats of the Colts D to run out the clock. There was absolutely nothing to gain with this pathetic ploy.

Before any Colts apologists start hammering away at the comments section as to how anything is fair game in the trenches in the NFL, no, it is not. This is a penalty, when the referees spot it, simulating the snap-count is unsportsmanlike conduct, and results in a 15 yard penalty.

I would add that the author isn't quite right- the Arkansas-Tennesee fumbled snap scenario could result if it's not called, because stopping the clock means another snap. A rare thing I know, but it's why you don't want to take a snap you don't have to.

 

[sieglo]

They should change the penalty. 15 yards and 30 seconds off the clock if in the last two minutes of a half.

 

[Urgent]

They should change the penalty. 15 yards and 30 seconds off the clock if in the last two minutes of a half.

That's a smart idea. Very sensible.

I have to admit, I was puzzled why Brady was so livid, but I absolutely love it.

The team had narrowly escaped a dramatic loss. After driving down the field three times in the fourth quarter, Manning was stopped with a critical turnover. With great relief, Brady and the offense ran onto the field to run the clock out for the victory. Brady kneeled down untouched, time was ticking off, and Brady was ticked off. He was screaming at the ref's; if this was basketball he would have been Double-T'd and ejected. And that was literally as the team was winning the game.

The snap simulation is a high comedy. It's sort of like the Delta Tau Chi "coughblowjobcough" scene. Did they yell Omaha? It would be better if they had a recording of the snap count, replayed through the Mike's helmet.