this offense misses moss.. also Tate is no Moss (merged)

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Sorry but Moss stretched the defense i dont want to hear about Brandon Tate... when you cant move the ball against the Cleveland browns.. sorry this team will have trouble the next 4 weeks .. Pitt is a loss, indy is a toss up because its home.. if detrot does not beat its self then we might squeeze one out there but the jets will stop us... then its a fight for a wild card.. embarrsing loss today..

 

[TriplecHamp]

The Offense misses receivers capable of getting open and catching tough balls.....period.

 

[Disco Volante]

Who did the Saints beat after the Browns beat them?

 

[harrylime70]

I think it does more so with Welker so clearly not 100%...Saying that I still think the trade needed to be done for the long term. We just have to make it count now and rebuild the offense without him as the way it currently is can only be a stop gap.

The Jets win today is going to hurt us in the race for the AFC East as our schedule gets tougher. Its not what we needed after our loss

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

Sorry he is a great special teams player.. he is not a great wr who was going to take the place of Moss... Randy Moss would have helped this team this year... He makes Welker better , he would have made Branch better.. Granted Gronk sucked today, but this offense is hurting because of no Randy Moss... Brady cant do it alone... although Brady struggeled today and besides woodhead there is no running game.. this team needs fred taylor...

 

[Haley]

I do agree. He drew so much coverage off our other guys, even if he wasn't receiving the ball he still had a serious impact on the field. Whether or not his on the field impact was worth the off the field impact I cannot say but clearly he had impact in both places.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

The kid has speed and explosive ability but his hands and route running are suspect. Number 3 receiver at best kind of like Devry Henderson down in New Orleans.

 

[Patriots Nation NY]

blah blah blah .. Im mossed out ... enough with moss.. he's not coming back ..

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

Still he dropped a easy first down pass today. he is a special team player period....

 

[aurakilla]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

i highly doubt this game is this lopsided if chung was hear today, its 1 loss their 6-2..........if they loose 2 more before they win 2 more then we can get worried.

tate even though hees in his 2nd year is really a rookie. give the kid a break hees played in 8 games in the nfl he was never expected to be the next randy moss was he? if he ends up being a decent wr by the end of the year ill be happy even if the rest of u are pissed he cant be revis for a 99 yard bomb

 

[Anj]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

i miss moss. we wouldn't have been limited to 14 points if 81 was there

 

[JFK]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

How is he Bethel? Is welker or branch doing better? I know welk gets doubled a bit

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

he's essentially a rookie, gimme a break. he makes catches. remember last week?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

it was a dumb for moss to open his mouth earlier this year, and it was dumb for the pats to trade him away. kraft is overly obsessed in owning a team with a squeaky clean image - no other owner cares so much about how his team is perceived. other owners just want to win -even the vikings owner wanted to keep moss.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

i highly doubt this game is this lopsided if chung was hear today, its 1 loss their 6-2..........if they loose 2 more before they win 2 more then we can get worried.

this loss today was a complet fail.. on offense special teams , defense and coaching particurally... Mangini outcoached Belichick today sad to say... Patrick chung was not going to make the difference.. Gronk sucked balls today , that TO at the goal line was the death nail... then the jets beating the lions who had no buisness losing that game today... that sums it up....

 

[TriplecHamp]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

Still he dropped a easy first down pass today. he is a special team player period....

I disagree, he can make things happen on offense, he's the type of player you just wan't on the field at all times but he isn't a complete receiver by an stretch of the imagination. A rotation of V.Jackson, Welker, and Tate/Branch with Hernandez on the field is an absolute nightmare for defenses.

 

[emoney_33]

Sorry but Moss stretched the defense i dont want to hear about Brandon Tate... when you cant move the ball against the Cleveland browns.. sorry this team will have trouble the next 4 weeks .. Pitt is a loss, indy is a toss up because its home.. if detrot does not beat its self then we might squeeze one out there but the jets will stop us... then its a fight for a wild card.. embarrsing loss today..

Obviously this offense misses Moss, any rational person knew this when the trade happened. That being said, you are over exaggerating BIG time.

It will be tough against Pitt but we can pull one out, Indy is going to be a tough one as well but I'm a little less worried than Pitt. We'll beat Detroit and the Jets.

I still think we win the division, we made some big mistakes today and Hillis was monster but it's just one game. The swings in the NFL are tremendous and EVERY game is a battle.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Sean, I merged your 2 threads that are basically the same subject in content.

Now you have one really bigger thread.

 

[coolguy]

Re: Brandon tate = Bethal Johnson....

Sorry he is a great special teams player.. he is not a great wr who was going to take the place of Moss... Randy Moss would have helped this team this year... He makes Welker better , he would have made Branch better.. Granted Gronk sucked today, but this offense is hurting because of no Randy Moss... Brady cant do it alone... although Brady struggeled today and besides woodhead there is no running game.. this team needs fred taylor...

What made welker better was not moss's play, it was the respect he got from teams because of his legacy.
Moss was manny ramirez and welker was big papi(its real funny how similar both the situations were and how they ended"

I still think it was a mistake for the pats to not try to package something to get steve smith.

The pats have tooooooooooooooooooooooooo many receivers that all basically do the the same thing. Somehow Hernandez has to not act like like a rookie and mature a little faster than what most rookies.

 

[BadMoFo]

Welker has been pretty non-existent since Moss left. Coincidence?