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Wow. How about we trade them James Sanders for Fitzgerald, Wilson, DRC, and a box of Otis Spunkmeyer blueberry muffins?

Why on earth would they trade Meriweather for a safety who gives you what your essentially already have in Chung (granted, Chung isn't there yet, obviously).
 
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Re: A Fantasy replacement at WR

This sort of of fantasy discussion is fun, but there is nothing even remotely realistic about it.

There are dozens of players in the league that would look great in a trade for the Patriots 2011 draft picks, and plenty of teams that need draft picks. But trades for marquee players in the middle of the season are extremely rare, unless the players are running themselves out of town in search of a new contract, like Moss did.

Again, the title of this thread should be "A fantasy replacement at WR"
 
I'm not on board with DW's impression of Meriweather (but, to be fair, I am a complete Meriweather homer). I thought he had a really good game Monday night. The problem with him has been consistency...let's see if he can follow it up with a good game vs Baltimore. Last year's regular season game vs Baltimore was his second best game of the year.

However, I do like the trade proposal he put out there, and would be willing to part with Meriweather if it got Larry Fitzgerald into a Pats uniform.
 
If Fitzgerald were available, the Pats would be foolish not to get him as he is better than Moss (right now - I am not speaking career-wise), younger and has more of a Troy Brown team-first mentality.

With that said, unless the Cardinals have forgotten a recent Super Bowl run, they would be more likely to sell their stadium and play in the parking lot than to get rid of him. Everyone else on that team is expendable, he is the offense. No way he gets dealt before he's 35.
 
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Amongst the various other reasons why this wouldn't be close to being realistic is the Cards own situation. Arizona are 2-2, on top of the division and have as good a chance as anyone to win their poor division even taking into account their QB situation. Why would they trade Fitz away?
 
Cousin, I have thought about Fitzgerald before I read your post as I am sure many have. Great idea and you know there will be those who torch you. So what. I got torched for suggesting Moss before that Raiders trade and I got "it will never happen, you're an idiot, he's all done" about two years prior. Regardless if you think if it was good or bad now, I never enjoyed watching another Pats WR with maybe the exception of Troy Brown (tie).

The concept would be hard for the Cardinals F.O. to swallow. But....if we were to play this out on what could or could not be done (remember all you anal big shot posters, this is done for fun and speculation) I might throw in a block buster because we know the Cards need a shake up and the Pats had that done this week already.

You know that the Pats F.O. and the "smarter than thou, Kool ade drinking posters" on this forum will swear that Tate is Jerry Rice and Price is the new Lynn Swan. In actuality Chad Jackson made a few plays in year one and then we got?......Chad Jackson. BB and his FO do not have a great track record drafting WR , hence Moss, Welker, Stallworth etc. OK Branch was decent in the beginning but turned out to be a greedy little so and so (and you guys want hims back with one leg?).

We have problems that Bill has now created at WR (YES IT WAS A MISTAKE), corner rushers and OLB. I still see a glaring problem in the secondary. We will take our lumps at CB but I see Safety issues that won't help those kids. I am sorry, Merriweather is not smart, Sanders is regressed from an already less than stellar starter role and yet there is a glimmer of hope out of Chung if he got some help.

The Cards are rebuilding when they lost Warner and cut the non effective Leinart. They need a QB desperately and the 2011 Draft has some better talent than the last few years. But after that the need some new blood as well. One rookie QB addition is not enough. They need a core of kids to build on in 2011.You are right the Bidwells are cheap. Kids make more sense.

Let's play this little experiment out. We need Safety help. Experience and skill are not Merriweather and Sanders. We need a WR. We have many Draft choices and the success rate is 17% in that venture so perhaps two will be impact of our first eight picks in 2011. I do not trust Draft choices. We have had two decent draft classes in the last seven years. Not great odds. Some of our best Teams were constructed of Trades, F.A. and other teams discards (UDFA).Also (see 2009 Saints please). Draft choices are important but not the only or best way to be successful.

I would like to see us get Fitzgerald who is trapped in AZ without much hope in the immediate future. The other guy I think could backbone this defense ala Rodney Harrison, is 30 year old Safety Adrian Wilson (about when we got Rodney). He is a 220 LB big Safety that BB likes because the can move him up. He is very smart and still very quick. He already has a sack and two interceptions He understands the position. His contract has just been redone but it is manageable.

Here is the package that I (that means that is my thought) would like to see.
Mankins (Wisenhunt prefers pounding the ball as when he was with the Steelers and Faneaca is about done and will be 34 next year), Merriweather and our 1st rounder of 2011 for Fitzgerald and Wilson. They get two Pro Bowlers who are young former first rounders and we get two Pro Bowlers who can help our Team now because our Defense has no leader really and TB would have a perfect WR Team guy for the grand finale of his career. The Fitzgerald money will free up the Cards to sign Mankins. Mankins is on the left coast where he wants to be. His anal pore agent might be ok with this deal.

We have already said that Fitzgerald fits the Pats mold. Wilson fills the Rodney void and would be a great mentor to Chung. I'd rather ship Sanders but we would not get anyone to sniff at him and some here would cry more tears if he left than Moss.

I know Fitzgerald is the face of their franchise but they need this change as much as we could use those two. They are the two players that could make a difference in 2010 and beyond. They could use another CB. How about Wilhite or Wheatley as the "throw in".

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I think that Fitzgerald represents under-utilized capacity in that offense without a great QB. They are paying for a top-flight receiver but can't actually use him (ask anyone with LF on their fantasy team this year). So while on the surface it doesn't make sense for AZ to do this, I could see them trying to get value for him via trade rather than continue to let him languish while he waits for them to figure out their QB problem.

I also would be willing to give up more than a 1st, Mankins and Meriweather to get those two. Just wow. This seems even more unlikely than the VJ trade, though.

I think that the message that Bill sent with the roster move he made (resigning Ojinnaka) is that he is comfortable with the receivers he has now.

We can dream, though....

Go Pats!
 
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Man, I would *love* to see Fitzgerald on the Pats, but it's just not going to happen, and precisely *because* the Bidwells want to keep their money.

Fitzgerald helps the Chargers keep putting butts in seats. Now, Whisenhunt and Graves totally screwed the pooch this offseason by convincing themselves that Derek Anderson could ever be a decent NFL QB, and then not even having anybody remotely interesting behind him. So this year's a wash, sure.

But they still have to worry about fielding a team people are going to want to pay to see next year, and I don't see the Cards doing that w/out Fitzgerald. With him, you can go to the Super Bowl with a retread like Warner. With him, they're an actually *decent* offseason QB acquisition away from having a credible passing game. Without him, and they're in the bowels of rebuilding hell.
 
Man, I would *love* to see Fitzgerald on the Pats, but it's just not going to happen, and precisely *because* the Bidwells want to keep their money.

Fitzgerald helps the Chargers keep putting butts in seats. Now, Whisenhunt and Graves totally screwed the pooch this offseason by convincing themselves that Derek Anderson could ever be a decent NFL QB, and then not even having anybody remotely interesting behind him. So this year's a wash, sure.

But they still have to worry about fielding a team people are going to want to pay to see next year, and I don't see the Cards doing that w/out Fitzgerald. With him, you can go to the Super Bowl with a retread like Warner. With him, they're an actually *decent* offseason QB acquisition away from having a credible passing game. Without him, and they're in the bowels of rebuilding hell.

I don't think you are giving Warner enough credit. He has a higher career passer rating than Joe Montana. Heck, he is 0.1 behind Tom Brady.
 
No player is worth 4 draft picks in this day and age. And certainly not the first 4 picks of the draft. I'd like to have Fitzgerald sure but the Cards lack starpower if they ship him off so that isn't going to happen. I'd give up Mankins and a 1st for Fitzgerald if the guy were on the table, but he won't be.
 
The Patriots need help ASAP because their receiving corps is as bad as the dolphins last year!
 
pipe-dream


Keep dreaming. That is not happening. We're clearly interested in going back to a ball control offense and rebuilding our front seven. They're not going to give up the multitude of picks (that would take more than one first rounder) in order to get Fitz over here. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have him in a Patriot uniform. There's just a snowball's chance in Hell of it happening.
 
Not realistic in the slightest. Sorry.
 
Would never happen, but I would love Fitz in NE. Guy is a supersized Wes Welker...fearless over the middle, catches everything thrown his way, team-first player.

:sigh:

Regards,
Chris
 
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I think that Fitzgerald represents under-utilized capacity in that offense without a great QB. They are paying for a top-flight receiver but can't actually use him (ask anyone with LF on their fantasy team this year). So while on the surface it doesn't make sense for AZ to do this, I could see them trying to get value for him via trade rather than continue to let him languish while he waits for them to figure out their QB problem. !

you can't build a team if you keep trading away young, underpaid, elite players. There's a reason guys like Fitz are never available.
 
We are fine at receiver. If we get anyone, I hope it is a pass rusher, not a receiver.
 
Why would the Cardinals do this? (read: they won't) LFG is young, good, and free of baggage. The only way is if they decided to blow the whole thing up, and even then the pricetag would be prohibitive. If we are going to trade valuable picks for a high priced established star, I say we get a stud DT or pass rushing OLB. (note: that's not going to happen, either... teams aren't in the business of trading these types of players)

WW
 
First of all, Fitz has a no trade clause. Second, as to why he would not want to waive that trade clause, according to one Cards fan:
If we can't lock him down long term he'll hit free agency after 2011, at which time we cannot franchise tag him, allowing all 32 NFL teams to bid freely over a 28 year old, 2 time All-Pro who's as amazing off the field as he is on it and if the CBA is willing, he can do it all in an uncapped year.

No chance at all.
 
this trade is not realistic. come on
 
Better chance of Brady dumping Gisele for Sandra Bernhard
 
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