Water Boy
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Before this thread is ripped to shreds please take a minute to understand my premise:
- I am not bashing Brady or Moss
- I am not insinuating that this team is better without Moss (or Brady)
I am simply asking your opinion as to whether you think Brady as a quarterback (not the offense as a whole) has played better and/or would revert to playing better (meaning taking what the defense is giving you) with out Moss.
In my opinion Tom was a better quarterback prior to the Moss era. I believe what he accomplished prior to Moss with Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Jermaine Wiggins, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Bethel Johnson etc was more impressive than his exploits since 2007.
In the pre-Moss era, Tom's favorite receiver was the open one. He went through his passing progressions.
Beginning in 2007 we saw a different QB. In 2007, despite throwing for the single season TD record, I saw a QB who in the past would hit the open man underneath, force the ball to Moss in double coverage. Yes, many times Moss came up with the catch with one or more defenders draped on him, but many times (not to his discredit) he didn't. In my opinion, throwing jump balls to Moss is less impressive from a QB perspective than what Tom accomplished prior to 2007.
As we saw in the Jets game and in many other games in the Randy Moss era, there have been far too many instances in the second half where instead of grinding our drives with short passes, moving the chains and winning the time of possession battle, Brady is giving up downs when trying to force the ball to Moss (Curran: Brady's not quite dialed in yet) , and is forsaking what has made him a Hall of Fame QB, namely, going through his progressions and finding the open man.
- I am not bashing Brady or Moss
- I am not insinuating that this team is better without Moss (or Brady)
I am simply asking your opinion as to whether you think Brady as a quarterback (not the offense as a whole) has played better and/or would revert to playing better (meaning taking what the defense is giving you) with out Moss.
In my opinion Tom was a better quarterback prior to the Moss era. I believe what he accomplished prior to Moss with Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Jermaine Wiggins, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Bethel Johnson etc was more impressive than his exploits since 2007.
In the pre-Moss era, Tom's favorite receiver was the open one. He went through his passing progressions.
Beginning in 2007 we saw a different QB. In 2007, despite throwing for the single season TD record, I saw a QB who in the past would hit the open man underneath, force the ball to Moss in double coverage. Yes, many times Moss came up with the catch with one or more defenders draped on him, but many times (not to his discredit) he didn't. In my opinion, throwing jump balls to Moss is less impressive from a QB perspective than what Tom accomplished prior to 2007.
As we saw in the Jets game and in many other games in the Randy Moss era, there have been far too many instances in the second half where instead of grinding our drives with short passes, moving the chains and winning the time of possession battle, Brady is giving up downs when trying to force the ball to Moss (Curran: Brady's not quite dialed in yet) , and is forsaking what has made him a Hall of Fame QB, namely, going through his progressions and finding the open man.
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