Looking ahead to the 2011 draft... WOW

[Taxed in Maine]

I'd be happy with drafting Julio Jones, and Ingram....or Ingrams backup, for that matter. I forget his name, but he looked damn good starting against Penn ST this past weekend.

Yeah

They need linemen, so you take a WR and a slow overrated RB. I hadn't heard that Bill had received a transfusion from Matt Millen recently.

 

[bigcountry75]

I'd be happy with drafting Julio Jones, and Ingram....or Ingrams backup, for that matter. I forget his name, but he looked damn good starting against Penn ST this past weekend.

His last name is Richardson....he is a monster....With all the high profile RB's if he comes out I would love to get him in the 2nd round or later....I am not sure where he is ranked among RB's though.....They said he benches 460 and he is small and powerful kind of like a MJD but a little taller....he would be a nice pick...

 

[Taxed in Maine]

His last name is Richardson....he is a monster....With all the high profile RB's if he comes out I would love to get him in the 2nd round or later....I am not sure where he is ranked among RB's though.....They said he benches 460 and he is small and powerful kind of like a MJD but a little taller....he would be a nice pick...

Trent Richardson, but he's a sophomore. I don't think he's eligible to declare until the 2012 draft.

 

[Triumph]

While I'm sure there are other threads out there about our 2011 draft picks already, the addition of a second 4th rounder for Maroney and the prospect of another high draft pick in a potential Mankins trade is making the Pats 2011 that much more interesting.

The team already has two 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders, and now an extra 4th that could be packaged with a 3rd rounder to move up and grab a THIRD 2nd round pick, giving the Pats as many as FIVE picks in the first two rounds.

Add another high pick from a potential Mankins trade (I'm guessing another 2nd rounder - could have been a first if a deal went down before the season started) and you're possibly looking at SIX players in the first two rounds.

Yeah, I know all of this is idle speculation and there are endless permutations of what the Pats might do with the Maroney 4th rounder whatever they got for Mankins if such a deal even went down, but it would certainly make for an interesting 2011 season - if there IS one that is...

If there's not a 2011 season then add the full complement of 2012 draft picks to the mix and you've got a pretty amazing amount of young competition trying to make the team.

Assuming the Pats have hit paydirt with Vollmer, Butler, Chung, Tate and Edelman from 2009 and Gronkowski, Hernandez, McCourty, Spikes, Price and Mesko from 2010 we've got a pretty significant infusion of young talent on top of those 4-6 top two round draft picks to complement the veterans who are already here!

If Belichick continues to draft well the next dynasty could be established before the old one fades.

Again, idle speculation and far too early to make any predictions, but there's a ton of draft ammunition already and potentially more on its way!

(Now let's just hope there IS a 2011 season!)

I heard theres a RB for the U of Minnesota thats lights out.

Can do it all.

 

[IllegalContact]

That would be sweet considering how we got the pick. My wish list in order since I am at:
DE
OLB
WR if we don't resign Moss.
RB
OL
The rest would just be gravy. Things might change during the season if Brace or Cunningham show a lot or some decent talent hits the free agency.

I disagree on WR. if the pats don't resign moss, rather drafting a WR, I would thing they would pursue one of the top FA's available. with edelman,tate,price there is plenty of youth in the group. you are spot on with the rest of them tho

 

[IllegalContact]

as of this juncture, in the first 2 rounds next year:

DE - allen bailey
DE/OLB - robert quinn
OG - mike pouncey
OT - anthony castonzo

 

[NYCPatsFan]

You're right. Its much more interesting to argue about Mankins, and Moss in 30 different threads. lighten up Francis

And what's wrong with discussing the current issues?

Nashville thunder can't lighten up the North Eastern bums.

 

[patchick]

The past two years, the Patriots made a total of 24 picks. The roster is now very young, with plenty of developing talent at most positions. Meanwhile early projections on the draft suggest it will have good top-end talent, but run very shallow. That all looks to me like a recipe for concentrating your firepower on a handful of players you feel really, really good about. I'm picturing some modest, strategic moves up, like the move for Gronkowski this year.

The positions that still need an infusion of top youthful talent, in descending order:

OL -- highest need, with Light & Neal (and Mankins, of course) likely gone
RB -- empty backfield for 2011 at this point (though i really don't like spending 1st-round picks on running backs)
OLB -- plenty of role players now, need an impact player
DE -- TBD depending on whether Brace continues his astonishing turnaround and Warren recovers well, but definitely room for a stud
WR -- only if Moss leaves

And that's about it. It's mighty hard to picture a high pick on QB, TE, ILB, S or CB as things stand now.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

His last name is Richardson....he is a monster....With all the high profile RB's if he comes out I would love to get him in the 2nd round or later....I am not sure where he is ranked among RB's though.....They said he benches 460 and he is small and powerful kind of like a MJD but a little taller....he would be a nice pick...

That would be him. According to the tide website, he is only a sophmore, so forget about him. Ingram is also only a junior, so he might not even come out.

 

[patchick]

And what's wrong with discussing the current issues?

Umm...it's Wednesday?

Besides, lots of folks like to start thinking about draft needs early so they can watch college games with an informed eye toward future Pats prospects.

 

[danam404]

Yeah

They need linemen, so you take a WR and a slow overrated RB. I hadn't heard that Bill had received a transfusion from Matt Millen recently.

I think ingram will drop to our 2nd pick of the first round.

overrated? have you seen the kid play? he's our style of a RB... big, tough, pound-it-in-there where good vision... not to mention hes a stand up guy. I think BB will take him, especially in light of the maroney trade.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Yeah

They need linemen, so you take a WR and a slow overrated RB. I hadn't heard that Bill had received a transfusion from Matt Millen recently.

Well, its YOUR opinion that we need lineman, and that may not be Bills opinion. Will he draft some, sure. He does almost every year. Will he use those first round picks (which is what we're talking about) on an O-lineman, probably not. If Moss doesnt resign, we lack a tall speedster. So why not use a first on Jones? As for Ingram being overated, and slow, well thats just your opinion. I'll take a slower bruiser over a speedy east/west runner like Maroney any day.

 

[danam404]

Tell me this guy wouldnt look good in tandem with brady, moss, and welker

YouTube - Mark Ingram(#22)- Official 2009 Heisman Highlights

 

[The Brandon Five]

The positions that still need an infusion of top youthful talent, in descending order:

OL -- highest need, with Light & Neal (and Mankins, of course) likely gone


Wasn't Neal just extended through 2011? Are you saying you expect him to be cut?


OLB -- plenty of role players now, need an impact player

THIS


WR -- only if Moss leaves

I certainly hope not, but yeah that would leave a mark.


And that's about it. It's mighty hard to picture a high pick on QB, TE, ILB, S or CB as things stand now.

You never know with the Pats. I was scratching my head with the CB pick in the first round this year, which now looks pretty good.

 

[BradyMossWelker]

OL -- highest need, with Light & Neal (and Mankins, of course) likely gone


Wasn't Neal just extended through 2011? Are you saying you expect him to be cut?


OLB -- plenty of role players now, need an impact player

THIS


WR -- only if Moss leaves

I certainly hope not, but yeah that would leave a mark.


And that's about it. It's mighty hard to picture a high pick on QB, TE, ILB, S or CB as things stand now.

You never know with the Pats. I was scratching my head with the CB pick in the first round this year, which now looks pretty good.

If Patrick Peterson falls, I would really think of taking him, I don't care. Trade Bodden, or Butler, this kid is a stud. Shutdwown Corner.

 

[JoeShmoe]

*Ahem*

There's a draft forum for all the wild speculation and high draft jinks

 

[Frezo]

Umm...it's Wednesday?

Besides, lots of folks like to start thinking about draft needs early so they can watch college games with an informed eye toward future Pats prospects.

That's an excellent point. I would like to know why there is no college football forum here.

 

[Sicilian]

I think the situations at DE, OLB, and OL (all positions) are open enough that we can take the best players available at any of them, and it's a good decision:

DE - We probably wouldn't need two high picks used here, but definitely one is needed. It all depends on how Brace does. If he shows promise, we still need one as insurance in case Warren isn't the same guy next year. If Brace looks bad, we could use two.

OLB - Other than Banta-Cain (and hopefully Cunningham), we have no one who is above replacement level. Using two picks here would be fine since DE/OLB college prospects tend to need a year of grooming before they become everyday players.

OL - As much as I love defense (and especially front seven players), and as big a hole as I feel we have there, I would not be surprised to see to OL taken in the first round. Light is getting older, so we need to at least consider a replacement tackle when he leaves. Even with Mankins, having a high draft pick ready to take over after 2011 when Neal might be done (or to fill in if he gets injured) would be worth it. Also, if Mankins were back, Koppen becomes the most upgradeable player on the line. A couple good picks here could really set our line for years to come.

 

[yopats]

If Patrick Peterson falls, I would really think of taking him, I don't care. Trade Bodden, or Butler, this kid is a stud. Shutdwown Corner.

I agree 1000% .. Butler would make a great slot CB imo and we would have two stud corner covers..

 

[Keyser Söze]

RB's are dime a dozen. Do you really think BB is going to risk a 1st round pick on another RB? No.

Very few become game breakers, this team will have other needs in the first couple rounds. I do think it would be good to get one in the 4th or 5th.

If Moss leaves, I want Green. Then get a stud DE with the other pick.