Gasper: BB is too old to coach?

[Mainefan]

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This Gasper column belongs in the "Come on, man!" segment.

 

[TruthSeeker]

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Some writers just like to trash the Pats, with Borges saying Brady won't retire a Patriot, and now this. That being said, there is some validity to the thought that the game may have passed Belichick by. I said it last year, it may have been in anger and in frustration, but I truly started to feel that way.

His drafting has been awful, his defenses no longer catch anyone off guard, his halftime adjustments have been terrible. For someone labeled a defensive guru or defensive mad scientist, his defenses have been incredibly vanilla. I love the Pats, and love Belichick, but sometimes the game just passes you by. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Synovia]

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His drafting has been awful,.

Compared to whom?

 

[lostjumper]

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Gasper is an idiot, nothing really beyond that. Belichick has delivered 3 superbowls...3 more than any other patriots coach.The NFL is a league of parity and besides the Colts and Pats, no one else has been competitive for the entire decade.

While we worry about the young secondary now, what if in 2 years that secondary becomes a beast, with Vince, Mayo, and Spikes in their prime. You could have a top defense, and still have a good enough offense to win games, much like 2001-2004.

Most clubs are competitive for a few years, then sink into .500 or below territory for a couple of years as they rebuild. Bill is trying to rebuild his defense while winning

 

[Rob0729]

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Some writers just like to trash the Pats, with Borges saying Brady won't retire a Patriot, and now this. That being said, there is some validity to the thought that the game may have passed Belichick by. I said it last year, it may have been in anger and in frustration, but I truly started to feel that way.

His drafting has been awful, his defenses no longer catch anyone off guard, his halftime adjustments have been terrible. For someone labeled a defensive guru or defensive mad scientist, his defenses have been incredibly vanilla. I love the Pats, and love Belichick, but sometimes the game just passes you by. Hopefully I'm wrong.

His drafting has been horrible? He has had a few bad years, but his last two years look pretty good. But look around the league. The Colts who are supposed to be the gold standard have wasted first round picks in about four drafts if you count the first rounder they traded to get Tony Ugoh. They have drafted Joseph Addai (started out a stud and turned out a dud), Donald Brown, and Anthony Gonzalez (has slipped to third or fourth WR). None of them have lived up to first round pick status. I can go around the league and look for more.

As for halftime adjustments, we are talking one year. The Pats had no problem with halftime adjustments prior to last year. It may be because he had a rookie signal caller and no weapons for Brady beyond Moss and Welker.

As for the defensive schemes being vanilla, what are you talking about? The preseason?!? I wasn't a huge fan of Dean Pees, but the defense was not vanilla.

The Pats were 18-1 in 2007, 11-5 without Brady in 2008, and 10-6 last year with a banged up Brady and Moss. How exactly has the game passed him by? Because based on last year alone, he is just an above average head coach rather than an elite coach. Personally, I think his performance during the 2008 season was the best of his career since he won 11 games with a QB who hadn't had a start since high school and may never be good again.

 

[emoney_33]

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Some writers just like to trash the Pats, with Borges saying Brady won't retire a Patriot, and now this. That being said, there is some validity to the thought that the game may have passed Belichick by. I said it last year, it may have been in anger and in frustration, but I truly started to feel that way.

His drafting has been awful, his defenses no longer catch anyone off guard, his halftime adjustments have been terrible. For someone labeled a defensive guru or defensive mad scientist, his defenses have been incredibly vanilla. I love the Pats, and love Belichick, but sometimes the game just passes you by. Hopefully I'm wrong.

With all of those terrible and awful things, it's a wonder why we don't send 12 guys to the probowl every year. I mean if the coaching/drafting is so absolutely piss poor, you'd have to give the credit to the extreme talent of the players for the reason why we continue to be a winning team. I mean especially since we had HOF Matt Cassel 2 years ago.

Seriously, if the game has passed him by. Who exactly in the last 3-4 years has a better track record? The game doesn't pass by people who ADAPT, it passes by the stubborn fool who refuses to adapt.

 

[Synovia]

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Ron Borges ~ yes! Borges was once a damned good writer!!

Borges was a great boxing writer. He's never been worth a damn when talking about football. He simply does not understand the game at all, and makes no attempt to. He simply spits venom at the patriots.

 

[Rob0729]

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Borges was a great boxing writer. He's never been worth a damn when talking about football. He simply does not understand the game at all, and makes no attempt to. He simply spits venom at the patriots.

Before Borges developed the contrarian persona, he was a pretty good football writer. I mean you gotta go back to the 90s to see good examples of his writing, but there was a time when he was pretty good.

 

[Synovia]

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Before Borges developed the contrarian persona, he was a pretty good football writer. I mean you gotta go back to the 90s to see good examples of his writing, but there was a time when he was pretty good.

You've gotta be talking early 90s, and at this point, thats so far back that I'm not convinced he hasn't been replaced by a robot or something.

 

[Uncle Rico]

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Where is Will McDonough when we need him?

I sometimes wonder how McDonough would be regarded here in the age of twitter and blogs and hyper media competition -- andwith a fan base that's very supportive of a highly successful regime.

He definitely had a chippy side to him and didn't lack for self-confidence. He also backed up everything he said - -one way or another. ( Just ask Ray Clayborn.)

 

[Ring 6]

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Some writers just like to trash the Pats, with Borges saying Brady won't retire a Patriot, and now this. That being said, there is some validity to the thought that the game may have passed Belichick by. I said it last year, it may have been in anger and in frustration, but I truly started to feel that way.

His drafting has been awful, his defenses no longer catch anyone off guard, his halftime adjustments have been terrible. For someone labeled a defensive guru or defensive mad scientist, his defenses have been incredibly vanilla. I love the Pats, and love Belichick, but sometimes the game just passes you by. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I know, its been 2 whole seasons since he went 16-0. Clearly the game passed him by while he was going 11-5 with Matt Cassell and winning the division again last year.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Shouldnt these morons wait til at least maybe he has a losing season before proclaiming him done. I could see if he had a 7-9 then a 5-11 season then you have something to write about, right now it just looks silly.

 

[Frezo]

I'd bet Gasper hates his job. He wants to drink the Koolaid, but the Globe is forcing soured milk on him.

 

[Jackson 2]

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This Gasper column belongs in the "Come on, man!" segment.

Is it me, or has Gasper become a much different guy since he went from reporter to columnist? Hey, I understand that the metamorphosis from beat person to opinion writing comes with some new requirements: you question, you're skeptical, you can never write or say anything that might even remotely result in you being tagged with the "homer" label. I understand all of that. But, honestly, Belichick is in his 50's. Would Gasper write a column wondering if colleagues (former and present) such as Bob Ryan, CHB, Peter Gammons, just to name a few who are all older than BB, have lost it in their chosen profession? Of course not, and none of those people, despite their impressive resumes, have come as close to the pinnacle of their profession as Bill has, except for, perhaps, Gammons. I've become convinced that most of these media people not only despise the Patriots because of Belichick, but they also have nothing but distain for Patriots fans whom they view as sycophants and lemmings.

 

[jmt57]

Seems to me Gasper changed the moment Reiss bolted for espn. I have no idea if that was his game plan, a directive or suggestion from his superiors at the Globe, or maybe a combination of both. Regardless I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a return of the old Gasper. It's pretty obvious that viewpoint and style of writing is gone and is not coming back.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Gasper is obviously too ignorant, and too stupid, to get paid to write a sports column. What a waste of money, his paycheck constitutes.

The only pleasant thing to contemplate is that he is yet another monetary drain on the Sulzberger congenital idiot, who owns and runs that money losing, anti-American media empire...

 

[AzPatsFan]

My ex's family are from Ohio.

The same sludge was started in Cleveland "that the game has passed him by". So they dumped the Man in the Fedora,even though he built the Team from scratch.

He was frustrated and out of football until he bought an expansion franchise a decade later, turned it into a contender in record time, and then into a Super Bowl Team. If you ask Belichick, he thinks the League Trophy should be named after Paul, not Vince.

Yeah, Coaches do get too old. Papa Halas was that way when he was in his mid-90s, but not before.

 

[goheels22002]

Gasper's column and Bob Ryan's raise an interesting question but fail to talk about football coaches who won well into their golden years. Belichick's success will have more to do with Kraft's ownership support (see: Brady's extension) and the ability to bring in players. College coaches do well deep into their 70s due to stability and support from their institutions.

This year is more about how all those 21-23 year-olds play and develop than Belichick's age. The 2010 Pats will be BB's biggest teaching assignment, something he does very well.

 

[Pats726]

Seems to me Gasper changed the moment Reiss bolted for espn. I have no idea if that was his game plan, a directive or suggestion from his superiors at the Globe, or maybe a combination of both. Regardless I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a return of the old Gasper. It's pretty obvious that viewpoint and style of writing is gone and is not coming back.

I did mention this some 20 posts before....MORE like I thought Gasper could follow more like Reiss...but now is MORE like Felger...as I said..he's more like that and a REAL twit!! I find the so called local media a bunch of miserable SOBs for the most part//// Enough said of Borges who I feel like is trying to make a comeback..on sports shows EEI.. (someone should REMIND all of what a hole he really is...)..Felger is Felger always downing the franchise..finding a way to USE his show to cause trouble with the players and team...ex the Spikes video..(By the way..does anyone know of a "media pig" who quite normally gets into the fray TO DO damage like that?) Pig Felger doesn't know the sport at all,,although he's a good faker and phony...I remember 5-6 years ago at camp...There was Reiss, Breer paying attention to what was going on taking notes..while the smug Felger was talking about the Red Sox NOT caring what was going on. Fast forward 5 years and Reiss is one of the best on the scene while Felger is clueless but is able to fake his way with his smugness and his attack on the team. Gasper is just a young felger learning how to be a turd early on.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Re: Gasper:BB is too old to coach ?

BB isn't too old to coach. But maybe the Patriots beat is passing Gasper by since this is a really "old" story idea, as others have pointed out.