Reiss: An ominous sign?

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New England Patriots were buyers instead of sellers as they shaped their roster, which could be an ominous sign, writes Mike Reiss - ESPN Boston

 

[Patspsycho]

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Not his best stuff. Doesn't really say anything. Every team has their fair share of busts.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

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We still need to fill a couple holes after a few preseason setbacks, and at least have some quality depth here and there as well, so this is not exactly surprising.

I still think we are not done shaping the roster.

 

[Deus Irae]

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It's pretty clear that the Patriots failed to repair obvious holes. Desperation moves have begun.


Hopefully, they'll be successful.

 

[QB12]

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Desperation, Deus? Methinks thou doth protest too much.

 

[IllegalContact]

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Be ready for shootouts......if you're expecting a good defense, you will be disappointed

 

[JMarr]

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Good article I thought--Reiss taking a decidely anti-homer line on this one.

He raises interesting points about the relatively poor drafting of Olinemen the last couple of years (Vollmer excluded), as well as BB's being a realist in the sense that this team obviously needs some veteran depth, especially on D, which wasn't going to be filled by guys already on the roster. AD, Burgess, Galloway, Holt, Patten, Seau and D. Lewis were all moves with this same idea in mind. Even though none worked out, who's to say that a couple of these new acquisitions won't buck that trend. And every team goes through this type of trial and error roster shuffling every year.

I especially like the acquisition of Ojinaka--having a quality guy vs. 2 or 3 JAGS can only be a good thing for the O-line, even if he turns out to be a 1 year rental.

 

[Deus Irae]

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Desperation, Deus? Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Not at all. It's obvious that the team is desperate about the O-line, linebackers and D-line.


And it should be.

 

[IllegalContact]

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Not at all. It's obvious that the team is desperate about the O-line, linebackers and D-line.


And it should be.

Actually, desperation would be to cave to mankins

 

[Deus Irae]

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Actually, desperation would be to cave to mankins

The Mankins situation is part of why they are desperate. I'll leave it at that.

 

[JackBauer]

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Good article I thought--Reiss taking a decidely anti-homer line on this one.

He raises interesting points about the relatively poor drafting of Olinemen the last couple of years (Vollmer excluded), as well as BB's being a realist in the sense that this team obviously needs some veteran depth, especially on D, which wasn't going to be filled by guys already on the roster. AD, Burgess, Galloway, Holt, Patten, Seau and D. Lewis were all moves with this same idea in mind. Even though none worked out, who's to say that a couple of these new acquisitions won't buck that trend. And every team goes through this type of trial and error roster shuffling every year.

I especially like the acquisition of Ojinaka--having a quality guy vs. 2 or 3 JAGS can only be a good thing for the O-line, even if he turns out to be a 1 year rental.

Meh. The highest OL pick -- Ohrnberger -- was only a fourth. And he may yet pan out.

I think "desperation" is a bit overstated myself, especially with respect to the OL.

 

[RussFrancis]

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Reiss gets payed to question things. Ive got no problem with his article. Though OBVIOUSLY, losing a Pro Bowl Olineman, a stud anchor defensive end, and a starting corner amongts others, the team's hand has been somewhat forced. But the sellers vs buyers thing is a little weak. We've stockpiled picks forever, including next year. So, with 2 first and second rounders already stashed away, why anyone would sweat losing draft picks of any kind right now as an indication of how things may be unfolding seems a little "unknowing".

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

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I, for one, am sick of all of this doom and gloom BS.

Save that for the Sox, this team is the Patriots, and not one team in the NFL is taking them for granted.

Enough with the dark clouds bullcrap. Thank you.

May I climb down off of my soap box now?

NO! Stay up there. And stay proud. I join you on that soapbox.

I believed in this team even if others won't.

Let me tell you about another team I believed in. They were a bad football team. Much weaker than than this one. Yet I believed in that team even when others didn't

Unlike this team that is coached by an three time superbowl champion head coach, the head coach of that team had only had one winning season in his 6 seasons as a head coach. That head coach was so bad that he had been fired from another team for having a dismal 36-44 record. Yet I believed in that team that few others believed in.

Unlike this team which has a history of winning, this team has with in the decade been with in one game of a perfect season and went 18-1. That team had a history of losing and in the past decade and been with in one game of a perfectly awful season having gone 1-15. Yet I believed in that team even though nobody thought they had a chance.

Unlike this team which is coming off of winning the AFCE with a record of 10-6 record that team had finished in last place in the AFCE with a record of 5-11. Yet I believed in that team.

And I have to say the season for that team did start off well. In fact they lost their first two game, starting the season 0-2. Yet I continued to beleive in that team when others lost hope.

Like this team, the team only had a few players that were household name, most of the players being nobodies. Yet I believed in that team.

Even after in the second game when the only real star on the team got injured, a pro-bowl player that was being replaced by a 6th round nobody. I believed continued to believe in that team.

Did anyone else on this board believe in them or am I the only one?

 

[RussFrancis]

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Yeah, "desperation" being used at this point by a fan? Dude, please go pull for the JETS already. You'll fit right in over there.

 

[Deus Irae]

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I, for one, am sick of all of this doom and gloom BS.

Save that for the Sox, this team is the Patriots, and not one team in the NFL is taking them for granted.

Enough with the dark clouds bullcrap. Thank you.

May I climb down off of my soap box now?[/QUOTE]

NO! Stay up there. And stay proud. I join you on that soapbox.

I believed in this team even if others won't.

Let me tell you about another team I believed in. They were a bad football team. Much weaker than than this one. Yet I believed in that team even when others didn't

Unlike this team that is coached by an three time superbowl champion head coach, the head coach of that team had only had one winning season in his 6 seasons as a head coach. That head coach was so bad that he had been fired from another team for having a dismal 36-44 record. Yet I believed in that team that few others believed in.

Unlike this team which has a history of winning, this team has with in the decade been with in one game of a perfect season and went 18-1. That team had a history of losing and in the past decade and been with in one game of a perfectly awful season having gone 1-15. Yet I believed in that team even though nobody thought they had a chance.

Unlike this team which is coming off of winning the AFCE with a record of 10-6 record that team had finished in last place in the AFCE with a record of 5-11. Yet I believed in that team.

And I have to say the season for that team did start off well. In fact they lost their first two game, starting the season 0-2. Yet I continued to beleive in that team when others lost hope.

Like this team, the team only had a few players that were household name, most of the players being nobodies. Yet I believed in that team.

Even after in the second game when the only real star on the team got injured, a pro-bowl player that was being replaced by a 6th round nobody. I believed continued to believe in that team.

Did anyone else on this board believe in them or am I the only one?

You believed in the 2009 team, too. Trumpet that one.

 

[Deus Irae]

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Yeah, "desperation" being used at this point by a fan? Dude, please go pull for the JETS already. You'll fit right in over there.

Larsen - cut
Ohrnberger - cut
Bussey - cut
Welch - cut
Ghiacius - signed, then cut
Simmons - signed, then cut
Ojinnaka - traded for
Stapleton - signed, then cut
Steve Maneri - claimed
Mankins - unsigned
Kaczur - switching positions, injured to the point of requiring back surgery, still kept on active roster



Keep living in the land of unicorns and fairy princesses, though.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

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You believed in the 2009 team, too. Trumpet that one.

Faith is deliberate confidence in the character of Belichick whose ways you may not understand at the time.

:snob:

 

[RussFrancis]

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Larsen - cut
Ohrnberger - cut
Bussey - cut
Welch - cut
Ghiacius - signed, then cut
Simmons - signed, then cut
Ojinnaka - traded for
Stapleton - signed, then cut
Steve Maneri - claimed
Mankins - unsigned
Kaczur - switching positions, injured to the point of requiring back surgery, still kept on active roster



Keep living in the land of unicorns and fairy princesses, though.

Right, right. What's our record again, Princess? Exactly. Just relax and grow a set, and root for your team like a man already. Being a woman, you might as well be wearing GREEN.

 

[Deus Irae]

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Faith is deliberate confidence in the character of Belichick whose ways you may not understand at the time.

:snob:

And that faith was obviously misplaced in 2009. :confused2:

 

[SuperPatsFan]

Re: Reiss:An ominous sign ?

New England Patriots were buyers instead of sellers as they shaped their roster, which could be an ominous sign, writes Mike Reiss - ESPN Boston

No pass protection? Dante will coach 'em up.

No pass rush? BB will scheme one up.

No secondary? Ummm...

No running game? Errrr...

Well, this team could make the playoffs, but I wouldn't put money on it.

P.S. Yes I am a (super) Pats fan, and yes, I want the team to win the Super Bowl this year, and every year.