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Well, Jaws disagrees with him, FWIW.
 
The Welker point is a non starter. He's back. He's been playing in the pre-season. He looks great.

Anyone who doesn't think the defense is a MAJOR question mark (especially now without Bodden) needs to lay off the LSD laced Kool-Aid ASAP.

The offense will be tremendous.
 
Still smarting from that playoff loss we handed you, Chuckie?
 
Isn't everyone picking the Jets, not us, to win the AFCE anyways? How are we overrated?

Even here I don't see too many people picking us to do much of anything this year.

Personally I'd be happy with a playoff appearance to build some experience for the youngsters.
 
Personally I'd be happy with a playoff appearance to build some experience for the youngsters.

Personally I'd be happy with a playoff appearance and three or four playoff wins (depending on if we get a bye) for the youngsters to build some experience. Nothing would build confidence in this team like a win in Dallas.
 
Personally I'd be happy with a playoff appearance and three or four playoff wins (depending on if we get a bye) for the youngsters to build some experience. Nothing would build confidence in this team like a win in Dallas.


I'm not opposed to that scenario playing out:cool:
 
Come on. Overrated? i would like to know where we are rated in the 1st place if people are rating us at 12-4 yeah i think thats over rated as our defense is yet to prove anything. if they are saying we will finnish 3rd in our div then i think we are under rated.

In reality i think this teams season hinges on what BB cal do with this defense because i can't see us loosing games due to our offense not getting us over the line
 
how are we overrated???

any hype we garnered in the past was obviously earned and backed up.

This year alot of people are predicting a down year for us and very few would predict SB.

THIS GUY should have used different words
 
Overated? Most analysts are predicting us to go 9-7.
 
Someone has been heavy into the koolaid.....

I'd be happy with a playoff appearence....

If it comes with anothe AFCE title...great !

This team should be really good in another year or 2 when BB has next years 4 1st day draft picks in the lineup and this year's crop is seasoned :singing:
 
Overated? Most analysts are predicting us to go 9-7.

Good point. And Gruden also has a point about an untested defense with important starters out for the season. But media analysts tend to play conservative with their projections and given the loss to Baltimore this is not surprising.
 
come on guys...we have a good Offense, but our D stinks, plain and simple. I think we should lower our expectations a little.
 
Beats the JESts twice and I'll be satisfied
 
come on guys...we have a good Offense, but our D stinks, plain and simple. I think we should lower our expectations a little.

We need to see em play before we say they stink..... I don't care what their names are, we have'nt seen em play. They are strong up the middle on D that's for sure and that's where it counts!
 
The Welker point is a non starter. He's back. He's been playing in the pre-season. He looks great.

Anyone who doesn't think the defense is a MAJOR question mark (especially now without Bodden) needs to lay off the LSD laced Kool-Aid ASAP.

The offense will be tremendous.

Perfectly stated.
 
Gruden is friends with hoodie, so this isn't a Borges hatchet job

The media was hyping the pats up until the last game which is what he was alluding to
 
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Good point. And Gruden also has a point about an untested defense with important starters out for the season. But media analysts tend to play conservative with their projections and given the loss to Baltimore this is not surprising.

You would think that we had not beaten Baltimore last season...:eek:
 
You would think that we had not beaten Baltimore last season...:eek:

No kidding, but those guys are all "what have you done for me lately." Plus, the playoffs count more than the regular season.
 
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