Calling Jets Fans

[BlueThunder]

Why are you calling out Jets fans on this board? Why don't you piss off over to a Jets site if you want to call them out. Or at least wait until we beat them this season.

Sorry fella.....I tried that and one of their ***** moderators banned me.

They don't tolerate too much criticism.

Too much Green Kool Aid being drunk over there....

Pats fans, for the most part, can see what the weaknesses of this Patriot team are....they know there is P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L at WR, TE and LB as well as their DB..but also know they could have probs at OLB,RB and their OL.

Jets fans truly believe Revis' holdout won't affect the locker room, (Mangold and Harris are next), Sanchez will make a leap from year 1 to yr 2 and become very good, Greene will be a beast for 16 games plus playoffs and stay healthy, LT has alot left, Edwards will grow hands, Holmes will keep his nose clean, Cromartie will learn how to tackle, and that a rookie playing on their OL won't miss a beat. :bricks:

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Fans over on Gangreen seem to be equally torn between wanting to tear Revis a new one and tearing Tanny the genius GM a new one.

Schefter is reporting that the holdout has voided the guaranteed language that existed on his remaining $20M in 2011-2012 salary.

The current school of thought is he won't give a rats ass about the August 10th deadline for accrueing a year of service because unless he gets what he wants he plans to follow in his uncle Sean's footsteps (Gilbert was the last player to hold out an entire season back in 1999).

Supposedly the JETS have made him 3 offers of long and short term solutions. But since they cannot fully guarantee their offers due to the expiring CBA, he has turned them down flat - as well as an offer from Tannenbaum to come to his home to talk...

If the JETS were ever really in it for the long haul (I chuckle at Woody characterizing the extensions he just lavished on Tubby and Tanny as proof that continuity matters to him) they should immediately turn their attention to extending the guys who did show up like Mangold. Otherwise, if they cave to Revis because he held out the guys who showed up - and Mangold in particular - might as well stage a walkout...

The real rub in this situation is that as a rookie he held out for the contract he now refuses to honor, and I think JETS fans have Tubby Rex to thank for convincing him he was so special he might as well...

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Florio has a pretty fair summation up on how/why/where it all went wrong with Revis. The comical part is that the genius who landed them in this pickle just got a contract extension of his own. One JET fan was quick to defend Tanny claiming if it took 6 months for Florio with his legal background to figure out all the nuances in an expiring CBA, how could the JETS fron office be faulted for ballaxing the Revis situation... Well, I think the answer is every FO in the league had access to the rules of an expiring CBA on the day the owners opted out. It's their freakin' job to know what they can and can't do and plan accordingly. Now the owness is on Woody because the only way to placate Revis is via massive signing bonus, after he just rewarded the clowns who put him in that position with guaranteed extensions...

Bill was so right in his assessment of why Mangenius should have just said no when the JETS came calling. Nothing ever changes in the way they conduct business (for effect like selling PSL's) and amidst a never ending cycle of disappointment that results in the HC sooner or later being set up to take the fall publicly in order to insulate the owner, the FO and the players they acquired or retained. That's what has made it historically one of the worst HC gigs in the league.

On Revis, Tannenbaum's hands apparently are tied | ProFootballTalk.com

 

[Rob0729]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am licking my chops of a Moss/Cromartie match up week 2. Revis isn't the Jets team, but he did allow the Jets to be blitz happy because he didn't need a lot of over the top help and double teams like most CBs do going against elite WRs. The Revis Island stuff is overdone since he did get help on receivers like Moss, but he demanded much less than the average #1 CB. I have always thought Cromartie is overrated and I think he could be a liability as a #1 CB.

The Jets look built to win it this year with potentially a lot of pieces leaving after this year or next. Losing Revis for a significant portion of this year could be a major blow.

I personally mostly blame Tannenbaum and partly Ryan for this. Making a big deal that getting Revis signed this past offseason was stupid move especially before they realized that Revis was going to want Asomugha money and not budge from that stance when he has three years left on his contract. Ryan is to blame because he talked up Revis as being as valuable as Brady or Manning. Revis deserves lots of blame for not honoring his contract, but the Jets set up this mess by making a big deal about getting him signed.

 

[ausbacker]

10 years 160 million dollars. The Jets would be silly not to do it.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am licking my chops of a Moss/Cromartie match up week 2. Revis isn't the Jets team, but he did allow the Jets to be blitz happy because he didn't need a lot of over the top help and double teams like most CBs do going against elite WRs. The Revis Island stuff is overdone since he did get help on receivers like Moss, but he demanded much less than the average #1 CB. I have always thought Cromartie is overrated and I think he could be a liability as a #1 CB.

The Jets look built to win it this year with potentially a lot of pieces leaving after this year or next. Losing Revis for a significant portion of this year could be a major blow.

I personally mostly blame Tannenbaum and partly Ryan for this. Making a big deal that getting Revis signed this past offseason was stupid move especially before they realized that Revis was going to want Asomugha money and not budge from that stance when he has three years left on his contract. Ryan is to blame because he talked up Revis as being as valuable as Brady or Manning. Revis deserves lots of blame for not honoring his contract, but the Jets set up this mess by making a big deal about getting him signed.

There's a lot of chickens potentially coming home to roost in the Meadowlands as this season approaches. At the moment Woody is probably giddy because there is no bad press, just press for the JETS owner. Maybe he figures if push comes to shove he can do the really stupid thing and hand Revis a check for $40M+ in signing bonus 2 hours before the opener just for the buzz that will create. If they then don't win it all he will find a scapegoat, but it won't be Revis and that is what Revis understands because he's watched what happens to the players who carry the load in NY and suffer the consequences when disappointment dictates someone's gotta pay. There is likely smoldering distrust and increasingly bruised egos/psyches permeating that locker room at this point, and whatever they do now will only feed it. But again, Woody doesn't view things the way the rest of us do. He has no long term goals. Just short term ones all tied to elevating the JETS media presence in the Big Apple and national media.

 

[Tunescribe]

Revis isn't the Jets team

He pretty much is, though. He's the shaky foundation in their house of cards. No one is more important to that team -- he knows it, and so does everyone else.

 

[Rob0729]

He pretty much is, though. He's the shaky foundation in their house of cards. No one is more important to that team -- he knows it, and so does everyone else.

I don't agree with that. He is a very important piece. They might have trouble getting a pass rush without him since he does allow them to blitz far more than most teams since he allows them to send extra rushers without worrying about leaving an unfavorable match up in the secondary. If they cannot generate a pass rush rushing 4 guys because they have to give Cromartie extra help, then I might agree with you.

Revis is just another question mark for this team right now. I still think there is a huge question mark on offense especially in the running game. Even if they improve the passing game, a significant decline in the running game could offset it. I think the Jets have far more question marks than most of the media gives them credit for. Revis is just another one in my mind at the momement.

 

[VinnyPatrollie]

He pretty much is, though. He's the shaky foundation in their house of cards. No one is more important to that team -- he knows it, and so does everyone else.

As Sanchez goes, so goes the Jets. He, not Revis, is the foundation of that team. (Most Green Beans fans think Sanchez will be Namathesque this year. Good luck with that).

 

[Rexorcism]

Hosts on WFAN, sports radio, here in NYC are freakin' out this Monday morning. All their criticism is on The Jets front office. They're ranting and raving with stuff like,"Front office pays Debrickishaw (sp) Ferguson? Front office pays Cromarte with his hundred baby mamas? And then they lowball a guy like Revis???!!! Who made 3 million last year? What? While people are paying 35 K for PSL'S? You gotta be kidding me!!!! Well, guess what? Revis threw them a curveball and buckled their knees."

ima lovin' it.
I came over here looking for the "Revis Holdout" thread, there wasn't one, so this one is it by default. There should be one, since it's the hottest by-proxy Pats related story right now.

The sports radio guys are mostly buffoons. They are just happy to have a story to talk about instead of trying to fill dead air with more of their babble. Revis is great, don't get me wrong, but the defense is a good unit because of Rex, Mangini had most of the same players the year before and the D was a disaster.

 

[Tunescribe]

I don't agree with that. He is a very important piece. They might have trouble getting a pass rush without him since he does allow them to blitz far more than most teams since he allows them to send extra rushers without worrying about leaving an unfavorable match up in the secondary. If they cannot generate a pass rush rushing 4 guys because they have to give Cromartie extra help, then I might agree with you.

Revis is just another question mark for this team right now. I still think there is a huge question mark on offense especially in the running game. Even if they improve the passing game, a significant decline in the running game could offset it. I think the Jets have far more question marks than most of the media gives them credit for. Revis is just another one in my mind at the momement.

He's the most important player they have. He allows their defense to dominate, and that team is built on defense. Revis alone is worth one or two wins, which could make all the difference in the AFCE.

By the way, I love this bit from the Florio piece: "Revis has made it clear he wants to be paid 50 cents more than Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who's making $15.1 million per year."

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

Hosts on WFAN, sports radio, here in NYC are freakin' out this Monday morning. All their criticism is on The Jets front office. They're ranting and raving with stuff like,"Front office pays Debrickishaw (sp) Ferguson? Front office pays Cromarte with his hundred baby mamas? And then they lowball a guy like Revis???!!! Who made 3 million last year? What? While people are paying 35 K for PSL'S? You gotta be kidding me!!!! Well, guess what? Revis threw them a curveball and buckled their knees."

ima lovin' it.
I came over here looking for the "Revis Holdout" thread, there wasn't one, so this one is it by default. There should be one, since it's the hottest by-proxy Pats related story right now.

The New York media is ******* moronic. Do they not know he has 3 years left on his contract?!? Hellooooooooooooooooo

 

[MoLewisrocks]

The sports radio guys are mostly buffoons. They are just happy to have a story to talk about instead of trying to fill dead air with more of their babble. Revis is great, don't get me wrong, but the defense is a good unit because of Rex, Mangini had most of the same players the year before and the D was a disaster.

If that's really the case then how utterly foolish of Rex to feed the head of the beast that is Revis Island full of delusions of grandeur, and how utterly stupid of Tannenbaum to open Pandora's Box when his hands were tied to deal with the consequences. Take Revis off your JETS team and you don't even sniff the playoffs last year on a double rollover gimme...

 

[MoLewisrocks]

The New York media is ******* moronic. Do they not know he has 3 years left on his contract?!? Hellooooooooooooooooo

They also realize he has willing blown up the guarantees of $20M included in those last three years so it's a pretty good bet he's holding out for the long haul. He's prepared to sit on his ass and watch you play from his couch, like his uncle did, and then await his trade to someone who will pay him in guaranteed $$$ before he sets foot on the field again. It hasn't worked out for a player in a decade, but as fate would have it the last player it did work out for is his mother's brother...

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

They also realize he has willing blown up the guarantees of $20M included in those last three years so it's a pretty good bet he's holding out for the long haul. He's prepared to sit on his ass and watch you play from his couch, like his uncle did, and then await his trade to someone who will pay him in guaranteed $$$ before he sets foot on the field again. It hasn't worked out for a player in a decade, but as fate would have it the last player it did work out for is his mother's brother...

I'm honestly expecting him to holdout for the season at this point. Shame.

 

[VinnyPatrollie]

I'm honestly expecting him to holdout for the season at this point. Shame.

Well, at least you won your annual Super Bowl this offseason.:singing:

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

Well, at least you won your annual Super Bowl this offseason.:singing:

Yes! I'm grateful for that at least.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I'm honestly expecting him to holdout for the season at this point. Shame.

Rex is still babbling about interim contingincy plans until Revis is back, while his home boy Bart Scott has already thrown in the towel on Revis showing at all this season. If Revis stays out it will be the first big crack in the Tubby Rex Magic Motovational armor that has until now deflected all the criticism of his viability as an actual, functional, NFL HC.

 

[Deus Irae]

The New York media is ******* moronic. Do they not know he has 3 years left on his contract?!? Hellooooooooooooooooo

The number of years left on his contract is all but irrelevant. It was the Jets that approached Revis regarding adjusting the deal. The years didn't matter to the team, other than possibly using them as a hammer in negotiations, so why should they matter to the player?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

As Sanchez goes, so goes the Jets. He, not Revis, is the foundation of that team. (Most Green Beans fans think Sanchez will be Namathesque this year. Good luck with that).

Wait! Think about this. Remember Namath's excerable QB rating and penchant for picks? Maybe JETS fans are, like a stopped clock, right now and then.