Tom Condon's clients

[FredFromDartmouth]

Here is who this weasel is representing this year. It will be interesting to see who holds out. This is why that Patriots did not go for Jerry Hughes and they would not have taken Gresham even if he fell:

1. Sam Bradford – QB – Rams – (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)
16. Derrick Morgan – DE – Titans (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)
21. Jermaine Gresham – TE – Bengals (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)23. Bryan Bulaga – OT – Packers (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra) an unsignable Beluga Whale
31. Jerry Hughes – OLB – Colts (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)


Then there is Drew "Next Question" Rosenputz:
15. Jason Pierre-Paul – DE – Giants (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
42. Rob Gronkowski – TE – Patriots (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) -- UH-OH!!!
65. Jerome Murphy – DB – Rams (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) -- Will the Rams get anyone into camp?
67. Myron Lewis – DB – Buccaneers (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
91. Navorro Bowman – OLB – 49ers (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
102. Darryl Sharpton – ILB – Texans (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
106. Bruce Campbell – OT – Raiders (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) Drew and Al-- what a combination
128. Jason Fox – OT – Lions (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
138. Walter McFadden – DB – Raiders (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
...

 

[BradyFTW!]

Good point- while I'd imagine that signability factors into draft-day choices, I doubt that it's *the* reason why we didn't take Hughes.

 

[Ghost of Ben Dreith]

The Patriots and Rosenhause have had a good relationship....I doubt Gronkowski will be a problem.

 

[Kontradiction]

Here is who this weasel is representing this year. It will be interesting to see who holds out. This is why that Patriots did not go for Jerry Hughes and they would not have taken Gresham even if he fell:

1. Sam Bradford – QB – Rams – (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)
16. Derrick Morgan – DE – Titans (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)
21. Jermaine Gresham – TE – Bengals (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)23. Bryan Bulaga – OT – Packers (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra) an unsignable Beluga Whale
31. Jerry Hughes – OLB – Colts (Creative Artists Agency – Tom Condon/Ben Dogra)


Then there is Drew "Next Question" Rosenputz:
15. Jason Pierre-Paul – DE – Giants (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
42. Rob Gronkowski – TE – Patriots (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) -- UH-OH!!!
65. Jerome Murphy – DB – Rams (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) -- Will the Rams get anyone into camp?
67. Myron Lewis – DB – Buccaneers (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
91. Navorro Bowman – OLB – 49ers (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
102. Darryl Sharpton – ILB – Texans (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
106. Bruce Campbell – OT – Raiders (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus) Drew and Al-- what a combination
128. Jason Fox – OT – Lions (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
138. Walter McFadden – DB – Raiders (Rosenhaus Sports – Drew Rosenhaus)
...

Why the problem with Rosenhaus? He and the Pats have a pretty solid business relationship. Condon is a different story.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

When the get that contract cap on rookie deals they can just call it the Condon Rule. He's almost single handedly been behind the insane contract increases for top ten rookies (or QB's who even fall out of the top ten) in the last decade. And you really get the sense that his clients have to sign some sort of clause that precludes them making the often career altering decision to not report to camp in time to launch their careers on solid footing. It's as if his real mission in life is to get them paid off for college accomplishments and thereafter let the chips fall where they may, or may not.

He totally screwed Brady Quinn in the process... signed to an incentive and escalator laden 'cause he's a QB deal he could never meet the minimums of because he was so far behind the pack when he finally reported it became increasingly easier over time to not start him and depress his salary and absent significant financial investment he's now a third string JAG in Denver fighting for dear life to just hang on in the league.

Watson had to fire him to get into camp his rookie season.

In what I think was a truly unholy alliance, Condon was also Gene Upshaw's agent and advisor while he was running the NFLPA.

Rosenhaus is pretty pragmatic. He seems more intent on getting his client whatever it is the client wants.

 

[Headcase]

Here is who this weasel is representing this year. It will be interesting to see who holds out. This is why that Patriots did not go for Jerry Hughes and they would not have taken Gresham even if he fell:
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Possibly, but not likely. More likely they didn't take Hughes because he was a poor system fit to spend a 1st on.

SSDD

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Why the problem with Rosenhaus? He and the Pats have a pretty solid business relationship. Condon is a different story.

Mea Culpa. I checked and yes indeed that Patriots have been able to deal with him. It's just that his personality is a bit much.

I heard he get 3% which seems low but what do I know.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Possibly, but not likely. More likely they didn't take Hughes because he was a poor system fit to spend a 1st on.

SSDD

Possibly and of course another reason is that he was not available where they wanted to pick him. If he had slipped (and had a different agent) to 42 it might have been a tough choice between him and the mysterious Gronk.

Mysterious you ask? I cannot figure out if the Patriots will keep him in to block on most downs or open things up with some intermediate (10-20 yards) passes to him or just use him (in a drearily predictable way) on goal line or short yardage.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Mea Culpa. I checked and yes indeed that Patriots have been able to deal with him. It's just that his personality is a bit much.

I heard he get 3% which seems low but what do I know.

Ugh Fred, you are aware that NFLPA rules cap agent's commission at 3%???
There was talk several years ago of lowering that to 2%, and it already is the lowest of the 4 major (3 major and hockey) sports...
NFLPA looks at cutting agent fees.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Ugh Fred, you are aware that NFLPA rules cap agent's commission at 3%???
There was talk several years ago of lowering that to 2%, and it already is the lowest of the 4 major (3 major and hockey) sports...
NFLPA looks at cutting agent fees.

Didn't know that; Contract talk make me ill so usually I steer clear of them unlike the mediots...most of whom gravitate to it like flies to manure because it gives them something to talk about without having to watch tape or think. And human interest stories about guys at camp who have no chance of making it; anything to avoid watching tape or paying attention to the workouts instead of the bottom of a beer mug.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Didn't know that; Contract talk make me ill so usually I steer clear of them unlike the mediots...most of whom gravitate to it like flies to manure because it gives them something to talk about without having to watch tape or think. And human interest stories about guys at camp who have no chance of making it; anything to avoid watching tape or paying attention to the workouts instead of the bottom of a beer mug.

As a matter of fact, it drops to 2%, IIRC, for RFA/franchise tenders.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Have any of Condon's clients signed? Snork snork snicker snicker.

Why do I keep thinking that Sam Bradford is going to be a train wreck? Late for camp...cannot catchup...injured in pre-season...spends season on IR collecting some ungodly salary; who knows maybe he turns into Matt Ryan. He does have a very accurate arm but I wonder about his durability.

 

[resdubwhite]

Have any of Condon's clients signed? Snork snork snicker snicker.

Why do I keep thinking that Sam Bradford is going to be a train wreck? Late for camp...cannot catchup...injured in pre-season...spends season on IR collecting some ungodly salary; who knows maybe he turns into Matt Ryan. He does have a very accurate arm but I wonder about his durability.

I was convinced the Rams were going to pass on him. That shoulder is a big big question mark.

 

[Joker]

So is Chad Pennington's..it's all about scheme and game plan...Bradford has been under the bright lights...to me that's very important...think, who guided the Saints to a Super Bowl?...unceremoniously cast off for who?

Joe Montana was a third round pick...the Tenn. QB busted in his first go round, but isn't Vince Young a smarter more dangerous player today? If it was all about talent, Ryan Leaf would be in the HOF...it's about heart...Bradford has shown he has plenty...believe it or not ,so does Peytie...and Tommy...and that freak in G.B.??? Dallas trades Romo for him they win multiple bowls.Bradford is a well known commodity...I just hope he gets the proper coaching.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

So is Chad Pennington's..it's all about scheme and game plan...Bradford has been under the bright lights...to me that's very important...think, who guided the Saints to a Super Bowl?...unceremoniously cast off for who?

Joe Montana was a third round pick...the Tenn. QB busted in his first go round, but isn't Vince Young a smarter more dangerous player today? If it was all about talent, Ryan Leaf would be in the HOF...it's about heart...Bradford has shown he has plenty...believe it or not ,so does Peytie...and Tommy...and that freak in G.B.??? Dallas trades Romo for him they win multiple bowls.Bradford is a well known commodity...I just hope he gets the proper coaching.

Protection and receivers will also be important. Bradford reminds me of Phil Sims when he first was drafted. Sims was a skinny delicate waif who was injured the first 2 seasons or so but then spent some serious time in the weight room and eventually set a SB record for accuracy.

 

[Joker]

uh...THE Super Bowl for accuracy...it wasn't until Simms submerged his ego and bought into the total team offensive concept that he rose to the top.Lost in all this though is the Giant defense...and the coach who ran it.Harry Carson once said BB is the greatest coach he ever had, a sentiment echoed by the rest of that defense.Every season we carp and complain about our defense and the gap coverage philosophy but when you look at it,with what he had BB ran that Giant to perfection.Everyone always remembers LT...that was a luxury to BB...his general was Carson..his safety was the hardest hitting gap plugger of his day.His defensive line had players that consistently applied pressure all game long.Smart players...Taylor was a freakin' child...but a savant on the edge.I ask you..who was Willie McG before Bill got here. Who griped and grumbled and fought the new system Bill put in? Yet in the Super Bowl versus the Rams, I submit to you and the rest of our fanbase, Willie was the absolute key to our success. Why? He was SMART...slower, less physically dominant than when he was young out of SoCal, but he was 10 times the player. THat was BB AND Willie,coach and player,seeing what it took to win.To this day Faulk still doesn't get it.I hated the day he went to Cleveland but the thing is, he knew why.People ask why Torry Holt came here to play in his twilight and he's told everyone they just don't want to hear..HE was the best football player on the field that...yet when Warner's head cleared he hit Ricky Proulx for those quick scores...and Faulk was invisible.That was Patriot football BB style and that's why I look forward to this season.Best draft class in years IMO