Interesting thing I didn't know

[BPF]

NFP Sunday Blitz | National Football Post

*No one is going to get screwed in a lockout more than scouts, however. Twenty-four of the 32 teams have lockout language in their scouts’ contracts that will call for pay cuts between 25 and 50 percent. But unlike virtually every other department in an NFL organization, the scouting department will have to carry on as usual. For scouts, it will be the same job for less pay. Among the teams that have not asked for pay cuts from scouts are the Colts, Patriots, Saints and Seahawks. Bravo to them.

Pompei write for NFP now, good read today.

 

[jmt57]

Probably not a coincidence that the four teams Pompei mentioned have combined for eight Super Bowl appearances between them in the last nine years. Quality organizations are not short sighted, and do the right things both big and small. That's why even with the constraints of a salary cap, free agency, and a draft based on reverse order of the previous year's standings some franchises still find a way to win consistently while others do not find a way to accomplish that.

 

[patchick]

Probably not a coincidence that the four teams Pompei mentioned have combined for eight Super Bowl appearances between them in the last nine years. Quality organizations are not short sighted, and do the right things both big and small. That's why even with the constraints of a salary cap, free agency, and a draft based on reverse order of the previous year's standings some franchises still find a way to win consistently while others do not find a way to accomplish that.

Amen. I certainly hope those other 24 teams require a comparable cut from their higher paid employees, too. Otherwise, slashing the modest paychecks of a group of guys who do a tough and overwhelmingly important job is just ridiculous.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Amen. I certainly hope those other 24 teams require a comparable cut from their higher paid employees, too. Otherwise, slashing the modest paychecks of a group of guys who do a tough and overwhelmingly important job is just ridiculous.

IIRC, BB doesn't believe in paying top dollar for entry-level scouts. In Patriot Reign, I think, it says BB wants people who are devoted to football to begin with.

OTOH, he's also known for being quite charitable; apparently it's not unusual for his scouts to go to their cars and find $100 bills mysteriously showing up in their cup holders.

But I agree that it's not surprising that the top teams as of late are doing right by their scouts.

 

[Kontradiction]

Do you think that Brady is going to make a hastey decision on his new contract based on the scouts' contracts?

 

[MaineMan]

Probably not a coincidence that the four teams Pompei mentioned have combined for eight Super Bowl appearances between them in the last nine years. Quality organizations are not short sighted, and do the right things both big and small. That's why even with the constraints of a salary cap, free agency, and a draft based on reverse order of the previous year's standings some franchises still find a way to win consistently while others do not find a way to accomplish that.

The Pats and Colts also typically use up about 95% of their salary cap each year - similar to the 'Skins, but without paying a gazillion dollars to acquire "star" FAs from other teams. Meaning that the lower 2/3 of their rosters get paid a bit more than similar guys on other teams. The Colts and Pats also, obviously, post the lowest salary-dollars per win ratio in the NFL by a large margin.

Also, with the Patriot Place venture, I'm guessing the Krafts have a way to keep a much higher percentage of stadium staff employed for the duration.

 

[patchick]

Also, with the Patriot Place venture, I'm guessing the Krafts have a way to keep a much higher percentage of stadium staff employed for the duration.

Makes me wonder...do you think Patriot Place makes them more or less vulnerable to the effects of a work stoppage?

 

[dryheat44]

Makes me wonder...do you think Patriot Place makes them more or less vulnerable to the effects of a work stoppage?

More. The debt service is still going to need to be paid, and it is staggering. I don't know how well the Revolution draw, but it's surely a pittance compared to the New England Patriots business.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Come to think of it, though, there is one theoretical group of players, besides the Mankins/Ghost-type RFAs who might get screwed out of significant money: the Gary Guytons/Julian Edelmans of the world.

IIRC, one of the casualties of the cap-free year is the performance pay system that rewards underpaid players who get large amounts of playing time. Last year, Guyton basically doubled his pay.

 

[MaineMan]

More. The debt service is still going to need to be paid, and it is staggering. I don't know how well the Revolution draw, but it's surely a pittance compared to the New England Patriots business.

Seems to me that Patriot Place was designed as - and certainly has been promoted as - as an independent "destination" and generates its own revenue. Of course, it probably doesn't yet cover its own nut annually and is far less likely to with the Pats not playing. However, my guess is that it's lumped in with the Krafts' real estate portfolio and not with the team investment, so the Krafts' other properties - assuming they're collectively profitable - may be able to carry Patriot Place for awhile.

It would be interesting to know how Jerry Jones and his $87 gazillion dollar stadium investment are going to fare financially. I suppose he could always use those big screens for showings of Avatar 3-D. Or the grainy, historical footage of the last time the 'Boys won a Superbowl.

 

[MaineMan]

Makes me wonder...do you think Patriot Place makes them more or less vulnerable to the effects of a work stoppage?

"Work stoppage"? As in, the players go on strike rather than the owners locking them out?

Actually, I guess that doesn't make as much of a difference as whether or not the service employees are unionized and, if so, if their union would authorize a "sympathy strike" (which would seem unlikely).

Seems highly doubtful that the owners, if they vote for a player lockout, would also vote to lockout the employees of any ancillary revenue generation facilities like Patriot Place unless there were significant tax advantages for making their revenue losses even bigger.

I really don't know if any of the owners are all that dependent - personally or WRT their overall business portfolio - on the revenue/profits generated by their teams. That's not to say that they won't whine about it.

 

[MaineMan]

Come to think of it, though, there is one theoretical group of players, besides the Mankins/Ghost-type RFAs who might get screwed out of significant money: the Gary Guytons/Julian Edelmans of the world.

IIRC, one of the casualties of the cap-free year is the performance pay system that rewards underpaid players who get large amounts of playing time. Last year, Guyton basically doubled his pay.

Don't those performance bonuses come out of a sort of "trust fund" that's independent of the League Year? I mean, the $$ could already be in there. Though, I suppose, with no CBA, there's no obligation to make the payouts unless it's controlled by the union rather than by the owners. And I'm not sure about who actually administrates that.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Don't those performance bonuses come out of a sort of "trust fund" that's independent of the League Year? I mean, the $$ could already be in there. Though, I suppose, with no CBA, there's no obligation to make the payouts unless it's controlled by the union rather than by the owners. And I'm not sure about who actually administrates that.

I'd have to double check, but I'm fairly sure the relevant CBA article says something on the lines of "In each League Year in which there is a salary cap . . ."

 

[borg]

You see, $50 parking is a good thing

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

This is great news! All the other teams cut the pay of scouts and the Patriots keep the pay? Yahoo.