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Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

FWIW, most of the studies I've seen boil down to the idea that marijuana doesn't impair driving in anything like the way alcohol does. But there are some effects: pot-smoking drivers have impaired night vision, and compensate for their general stoned-ness by driving much more slowly than everybody else. IOW, it kind of turns you into the 90-year-old lady I saw inching her car into Davis Square today.

Overall, the impairment hierarchy looks something like this:

Texting > Way drunk > Talking on hand-held phone > Moderately drunk = Talking on hands-free phone > On pot > Fully alert.

But West Houston Street can be a harrowing place to drive in any condition. Partially because the pedestrians are all drunk, high, texting and talking on cell phones.

I dunno. I crusie at about a steady 80 while smoking. Nothing too fast, moving quick enough to get where I need to and the perfect speed to be sure I maintain full control. No I'm not a seasoned toker or anything ;]
 
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Not sure where you get your information from, would like to know. I'm sure its my imagination that I'm a great driver when I'm stoned. Oh, there is no F'N WAY smoking impairs your driving more then drinking. Sounds like some personal bias.

The very belief that you are not impaired is proof enough that you are WRONG! Don't drive under the influence of drugs and it doesn't matter whether its alchohol, or grass, or meth or opiates!

The fellow who has had a bit at a party, recognizes his impairment, if he drives, does so very carefully, stays slow, and allows extra space to react with his impaired reflexes, isn't the fellow who thinks he is on top of the world, goes out smashed or stoned out of his gourd. The same fellow who than, wraps his car around another at 95 mph. I don't mind Darwinism in action, but its the innocent by-standers that you take with you, that I object to.

You sir, are a danger to everyone around you even now, cold stone sober.
:(
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

Hey Leave No Doubt, you liked my Pats-Phins MNF story the night John Lennon was shot? Thank you.
Here's another story loosely related to this thread. It DOES have a Patriots connection. Okay, ready?
I was at the old Pats stadium (a.k.a. Shaeffer, Sullivan, Foxboro) at the Grateful Dead show. The one on July 2nd, 1989. (Gee, look at that. Exactly 21 years ago today. Unintended, btw.) As a matter of fact, the only two times I've been to Foxboro were the two times The Dead played there. 1st time Dead & Dylan on the 4th of July in 1987, and this time, 2 years later.
Anyway, (this ties into the debate on intoxication levels in relation to operating a motor vehicle. Bear with me, my writing is always long-winded) Anyway, I was pretty strung out back then at 22 years old. Hey, I was pretty much supposed to be anyway. I ran an independent record label in NYC for 17 years (between 21-38 years of age), so having a substance abuse problem is kinda a PREREQUISITE for being in the Rock & Roll business. So, I did about $100 of smack after the show and drove overnight to Ithaca, N.Y., fully intending to pick up my girlfriend and head to Rich Stadium to catch the Dead show the next night with her.
BUT...
As I pulled into Ithaca at SUNRISE the next morning, all blissing-out, with my brain producing whole lotta endorphins due to that load of smack I snorted the night before in Sullivan Stadium's gravel parking lot , I noticed a POLICE BLOCKADE up ahead on the interstate running into downtown Ithaca. So, I get all "Wtf is that all about?" and I stash my stash in the front pocket of my freaking purple overalls (lol). Hey, I WAS on a freaking Grateful Dead tour, after all. Purple? Yeah, freaking purple. And I must say, I was to die for in 'em. I was a Hippy-dippy, long-haired, articulate, yet a little bit lost, cutie-pie. The state troopers were checking each car for something. Hell if I knew what it was about. SO... when they finally got to me, they opened up my freaking door and threw me up on tha front hood... lol... purple overalls and all.
Holy geebus! So, (with me so far? Glad you bothered to read down this far?) So, I go,"Holy crap. What in tha heck is this all about officer? I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG GUY! ima just comin' into town this fine morning to pick up ma chick to shuffle on off to Buffalo."
Well, and you'll love this...
The State trooper goes,"Nope. We got the right guy. Your father called us up last night and said you've STOLEN the extra car in the driveway to go on your Grateful Dead adventure. So, with your father's help, we estimated what time you were likely to be driving into town on this exact interstate road. Pretty astute calculation, huh? You're right on your E.T.A. (Well, at least I did THAT right.lol.) Anyway, You're being charged with VEHICULAR THEFT, a felony. Put your hands behind your back."
AHHHH NOOOOO! (LOL! Ahh, memories. lol.)
BUT, that's not all. Tha coppers gimme the requisite pat down and guess what? Yep, a whole lotta smack plops outta my cute little chest pocket in the purple overalls. AHHHHH NOOOOOOO!!!!! (Man, I'm on the floor right now, but I was so discouraged when that last part happened back then. My whole Sex, Drugs, and Rock And Roll 4th of July weekend was ruined!!! Bwah!!
So, the cop goes,"Well, well, well, what do we have here?" I go,"I dunno exactly WHAT that is." And it's a GOOD thing I said that because back at the lab, the cops couldn't exactly pin down what the powder was because their drug testing was screwed up or something. I didn't get charged for it! Niiiiice.
So, they put me in jail in Ithaca. I call my dad with a resounding,"WTF!!!! THANKS A LOT!" He (probably laughing inside) goes,"See what you get for borrowing the spare car without permission? I think I'll let you cool your heels in tha clink for a few days and I'll mosey (mosi? lol.) mosey on up there, drop the charges and we can have a nice weekend going to The Baseball Hall Of Fame, nearby up there in Cooperstown."
Well, under normal circumstances I'd have been into go g to the Hall and all, BUTTTTT.... I had a hella smack habit and I was jonesing out tha wazooo. I wanted nuthin' to do with baseball. The only ball I wanted to see would prolly have been a SPEEDball.
I tell my dad,"Oh, dad? Btw, there's ANOTHER charge you don't know about. Possession." He goes,"Oh yeah???? Of WHAT!!" (Gee, I guess THAT threw a wrench into the works of his nice father-son Baseball Hall weekend, huh?) I said,"Uhhhhh.... an "as of yet unidentified" opiate, well, that's what the cops are callin' it right now." A creative way for your father to find out his son is strung out on "you know". Hey, it was HIS doing, right? If he'd have not set this whole madness into motion with that dang phone call to tha freakig cops, we'd not be having this conversation. (how's that for addict thinking? lol.)
ANYway, long-story-short, #1. he comes and bails me out. #2. We go to The Hall. I remember seeing George Brett's pine tar bat. That was pretty cool. #3. He drives me back down to NYC, my home since 1986. #4. I score some desperately needed smack to get rid of one of the most painful jones ever #5. It's now a week later and the Dead freaking kinda FOLLOWED me down to my city to welcome me back from jail. That was so nice of them. lol. #6. During the LAST song of the show, I FINALLY bump into my girlfriend on the field in the end zone! (prolly kinda near the spot Randy Moss skipped into, thus simultaneously breaking both the reception and touchdown pass records, 18 years later.) She blurts out,"Where THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN!!! Geebus!"
#7. I go,"Darlin', It's a long story. And what a long, strange trip it's been."
#8. I finally got my sex to go along with my drugs & Rock and Roll.
#9. I felt exhausted and checked into my first rehab a few days later.

So, what's the moral of the story, my patient fellow Pats fans????

That yes indeed, one CAN drive for hours on end at high speeds on a really nice feeling load of opiates. That's what.

Debate officially settled. rotf.

(Hey, come to think of it, maybe Phil Simms called the police up and did the same thing to his son which my dad did to me! I betcha it was a "Phil Simms Intervention" on his delinquent footbawl chuckin' loon of a son!

I slay myself.

"Whatchoo Talkin' Bout, Kontradiction?"
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

I could not agree with you less.

Dope drastically diminishes spatial and temporal judgement - precisely what you need to drive a car safely. Although it is impossible to get objective figures (not least because smoking drivers are often also drunk drivers) all the signs are that it is even worse than alcohol.

Articles here indicated that while it clearly heightens the risk of accident, the effects aren't as drastic as alcohol. Cannabis was the most common illegal drug found in the blood of road accident victims though...
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

The very belief that you are not impaired is proof enough that you are WRONG! Don't drive under the influence of drugs and it doesn't matter whether its alchohol, or grass, or meth or opiates!

The fellow who has had a bit at a party, recognizes his impairment, if he drives, does so very carefully, stays slow, and allows extra space to react with his impaired reflexes, isn't the fellow who thinks he is on top of the world, goes out smashed or stoned out of his gourd. The same fellow who than, wraps his car around another at 95 mph. I don't mind Darwinism in action, but its the innocent by-standers that you take with you, that I object to.

You sir, are a danger to everyone around you even now, cold stone sober.
:(

WOW! Dude, settle down. Actually, Patchick nailed it, as most logical people would agree.
I don't smoke much nowadays, but when I do, I still enjoy myself. Stay thirsty my friend.
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

Hey Leave No Doubt, you liked my Pats-Phins MNF story the night John Lennon was shot? Thank you.
Here's another story loosely related to this thread. It DOES have a Patriots connection. Okay, ready?
I was at the old Pats stadium (a.k.a. Shaeffer, Sullivan, Foxboro) at the Grateful Dead show. The one on July 2nd, 1989. (Gee, look at that. Exactly 21 years ago today. Unintended, btw.) As a matter of fact, the only two times I've been to Foxboro were the two times The Dead played there. 1st time Dead & Dylan on the 4th of July in 1987, and this time, 2 years later.
Anyway, (this ties into the debate on intoxication levels in relation to operating a motor vehicle. Bear with me, my writing is always long-winded) Anyway, I was pretty strung out back then at 22 years old. Hey, I was pretty much supposed to be anyway. I ran an independent record label in NYC for 17 years (between 21-38 years of age), so having a substance abuse problem is kinda a PREREQUISITE for being in the Rock & Roll business. So, I did about $100 of smack after the show and drove overnight to Ithaca, N.Y., fully intending to pick up my girlfriend and head to Rich Stadium to catch the Dead show the next night with her.
BUT...
As I pulled into Ithaca at SUNRISE the next morning, all blissing-out, with my brain producing whole lotta endorphins due to that load of smack I snorted the night before in Sullivan Stadium's gravel parking lot , I noticed a POLICE BLOCKADE up ahead on the interstate running into downtown Ithaca. So, I get all "Wtf is that all about?" and I stash my stash in the front pocket of my freaking purple overalls (lol). Hey, I WAS on a freaking Grateful Dead tour, after all. Purple? Yeah, freaking purple. And I must say, I was to die for in 'em. I was a Hippy-dippy, long-haired, articulate, yet a little bit lost, cutie-pie. The state troopers were checking each car for something. Hell if I knew what it was about. SO... when they finally got to me, they opened up my freaking door and threw me up on tha front hood... lol... purple overalls and all.
Holy geebus! So, (with me so far? Glad you bothered to read down this far?) So, I go,"Holy crap. What in tha heck is this all about officer? I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG GUY! ima just comin' into town this fine morning to pick up ma chick to shuffle on off to Buffalo."
Well, and you'll love this...
The State trooper goes,"Nope. We got the right guy. Your father called us up last night and said you've STOLEN the extra car in the driveway to go on your Grateful Dead adventure. So, with your father's help, we estimated what time you were likely to be driving into town on this exact interstate road. Pretty astute calculation, huh? You're right on your E.T.A. (Well, at least I did THAT right.lol.) Anyway, You're being charged with VEHICULAR THEFT, a felony. Put your hands behind your back."
AHHHH NOOOOO! (LOL! Ahh, memories. lol.)
BUT, that's not all. Tha coppers gimme the requisite pat down and guess what? Yep, a whole lotta smack plops outta my cute little chest pocket in the purple overalls. AHHHHH NOOOOOOO!!!!! (Man, I'm on the floor right now, but I was so discouraged when that last part happened back then. My whole Sex, Drugs, and Rock And Roll 4th of July weekend was ruined!!! Bwah!!
So, the cop goes,"Well, well, well, what do we have here?" I go,"I dunno exactly WHAT that is." And it's a GOOD thing I said that because back at the lab, the cops couldn't exactly pin down what the powder was because their drug testing was screwed up or something. I didn't get charged for it! Niiiiice.
So, they put me in jail in Ithaca. I call my dad with a resounding,"WTF!!!! THANKS A LOT!" He (probably laughing inside) goes,"See what you get for borrowing the spare car without permission? I think I'll let you cool your heels in tha clink for a few days and I'll mosey (mosi? lol.) mosey on up there, drop the charges and we can have a nice weekend going to The Baseball Hall Of Fame, nearby up there in Cooperstown."
Well, under normal circumstances I'd have been into go g to the Hall and all, BUTTTTT.... I had a hella smack habit and I was jonesing out tha wazooo. I wanted nuthin' to do with baseball. The only ball I wanted to see would prolly have been a SPEEDball.
I tell my dad,"Oh, dad? Btw, there's ANOTHER charge you don't know about. Possession." He goes,"Oh yeah???? Of WHAT!!" (Gee, I guess THAT threw a wrench into the works of his nice father-son Baseball Hall weekend, huh?) I said,"Uhhhhh.... an "as of yet unidentified" opiate, well, that's what the cops are callin' it right now." A creative way for your father to find out his son is strung out on "you know". Hey, it was HIS doing, right? If he'd have not set this whole madness into motion with that dang phone call to tha freakig cops, we'd not be having this conversation. (how's that for addict thinking? lol.)
ANYway, long-story-short, #1. he comes and bails me out. #2. We go to The Hall. I remember seeing George Brett's pine tar bat. That was pretty cool. #3. He drives me back down to NYC, my home since 1986. #4. I score some desperately needed smack to get rid of one of the most painful jones ever #5. It's now a week later and the Dead freaking kinda FOLLOWED me down to my city to welcome me back from jail. That was so nice of them. lol. #6. During the LAST song of the show, I FINALLY bump into my girlfriend on the field in the end zone! (prolly kinda near the spot Randy Moss skipped into, thus simultaneously breaking both the reception and touchdown pass records, 18 years later.) She blurts out,"Where THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN!!! Geebus!"
#7. I go,"Darlin', It's a long story. And what a long, strange trip it's been."
#8. I finally got my sex to go along with my drugs & Rock and Roll.
#9. I felt exhausted and checked into my first rehab a few days later.

So, what's the moral of the story, my patient fellow Pats fans????

That yes indeed, one CAN drive for hours on end at high speeds on a really nice feeling load of opiates. That's what.

Debate officially settled. rotf.

(Hey, come to think of it, maybe Phil Simms called the police up and did the same thing to his son which my dad did to me! I betcha it was a "Phil Simms Intervention" on his delinquent footbawl chuckin' loon of a son!

I slay myself.

"Whatchoo Talkin' Bout, Kontradiction?"

:rofl:
....
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

I'm sure its my imagination that I'm a great driver when I'm stoned.
No doubt about it - it's your imagination all right. Oh, and you aren't really sexy when you're stoned, and you still dance like the Tin Man of OZ, too.
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

Not sure where you get your information from, would like to know. I'm sure its my imagination that I'm a great driver when I'm stoned. Oh, there is no F'N WAY smoking impairs your driving more then drinking. Sounds like some personal bias.

Back in the day, I could not drive at all after smoking. I could never figure out how much pressure to put on the gas pedal.
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

I dunno. I crusie at about a steady 80 while smoking. Nothing too fast, moving quick enough to get where I need to and the perfect speed to be sure I maintain full control. No I'm not a seasoned toker or anything ;]

How do you feel about tractor trailer drivers driving while stoned?
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

No doubt about it - it's your imagination all right. Oh, and you aren't really sexy when you're stoned, and you still dance like the Tin Man of OZ, too.

Actually, I never dance, never thought of myself as sexy, quite quiet when straight, talk a lot when stoned, and can concentrate like nobody's business when I'm stoned.
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

Back in the day, I could not drive at all after smoking. I could never figure out how much pressure to put on the gas pedal.
haha, as someone else already said, the main thing I found was that I (or whoever else) would drive super slow while stoned. You are definitely somewhat impaired, but it's kind of a mix between driving like you're lost and being an old lady with bad sight haha. It's certainly not the same danger level as being drunk though.
 
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haha, as someone else already said, the main thing I found was that I (or whoever else) would drive super slow while stoned. You are definitely somewhat impaired, but it's kind of a mix between driving like you're lost and being an old lady with bad sight haha. It's certainly not the same danger level as being drunk though.

For me I could drive best sober, next best buzzed (a few beers), then stoned, then hammered, then while getting a BJ.
 
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For me I could drive best sober, next best buzzed (a few beers), then stoned, then hammered, then while getting a BJ.

LOL! One time I was getting a BJ on 95. We were coming up on a toll booth and "what's her name" sat up and I pulled my shirt down over my knees to preserve the moment. I handed the toll dude the cash and the car stalled and wouldn't start. The guy said, "Just get out and push it." I looked at him with this are you kidding? look an my face. He started LOL. My girl was also LOL. The guy got out of the toll booth and pushed us into the break down lane. Best toll dude ever!
 
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How do you feel about tractor trailer drivers driving while stoned?
What I really like are stoned surgeons. When I'm on the operating table, I want to hear a lot of giggling just as I'm about to go under from the anesthetic.
 
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What I really like are stoned surgeons. When I'm on the operating table, I want to hear a lot of giggling just as I'm about to go under from the anesthetic.

"Hey dudes, watch what happens when I press here!"
 
why are you guys laughing???

have you ever worked in a hospital?...or had a friend who was an orderly?

haven't you ever seen the statistics in reference to O.R. screwups?

ever come out of an operation blind?? I have ...the idiot apologized after my sight returned.."oops..anesthesia blindness...I used a little too much...sorry..."...thanks, moron

ALWAYS make sure you KNOW your doctor AND your surgeon...otherwise it's anything can happen day out there.
 
I didn't know he was still in the league, to be honest.
 
Re: Chris Simms: Busted for DUI Marijuana

What I really like are stoned surgeons. When I'm on the operating table, I want to hear a lot of giggling just as I'm about to go under from the anesthetic.

Surgeons screw up at high rates as it is. And anyway, alcohol is legal. Any surgeon can go in there fresh off of a binge and still be a little loaded operating on you too.
 
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Surgeons screw up at high rates as it is. And anyway, alcohol is legal. Any surgeon can go in there fresh off of a binge and still be a little loaded operating on you too.

Don't confuse the issue. It's a fact that 9 out of 10 surgeon's prefer a bong hit to a shot of alcohol before they operate. In other studies, airline pilots toked versus gin and tonics.
 
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