Brady weighs in on possible extended season

[ausbacker]

I don't define good or bad in that sense. I realize that it's just one man's opinion, but that is mine. Money and ratings are irrelevant. America is a land full of examples of horrid crap garnering mass attention and making huge coin.

The Pro Bowl, for example, is a bad idea from the start because of the nature of football, and now it doesn't even have players from the two "best" teams because they're practicing for a game that matters.

Fair enough. Not that I disagree with you but whilst something makes a heap of money executives will always consider it good.

 

[Deus Irae]

Fair enough. Not that I disagree with you but whilst something makes a heap of money executives will always consider it good.

Sure.... when you scrape off the pretense of the league giving a rat's ass about anything other than the bottom line, and you look at things from the league's point of view, you can easily come to the conclusion that some of those things are good. I just don't buy into "good for the league's wallets = absolute good" as a 100% correlation.

 

[ausbacker]

Sure.... when you scrape off the pretense of the league giving a rat's ass about anything other than the bottom line, and you look at things from the league's point of view, you can easily come to the conclusion that some of those things are good. I just don't buy into "good for the league's wallets = absolute good" as a 100% correlation.

I'm yet to meet a high powered sporting official/executive who was there "for the betterment of the sport". It's always money and growth as the first priorities. Everything is secondary to that.

 

[Joker]

Titans 86 yhear old owner gets fined 250,000 dollars for flipping the bird to abusive fans by Der Fuhrerdell.

Pats lose a first round pick, and fined a million dollars by the corporate Criminaldell.

Fat slob,drunk, blubbering ,making obscene gestures and lewd remarks to young femalefans, the NFL's Wrecks Cryan gets fined 50 K by the Jets...NOTHING by Tammanydell.

Please...in the words of Vincent Caccardia in True Romance.."you're saying nothing but you're telling me everything"

Benito Baddell is just clinging to the hope that his planned criminal masterplan to hijack the Super Bowl and get a Jet/Giant matchup in 2014 stays on course.

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm yet to meet a high powered sporting official/executive who was there "for the betterment of the sport". It's always money and growth as the first priority. Everything is secondary to that.

The problem with that sort of thinking by those officials/executives is that short term gains are frequently followed by long term issues. Just ask baseball. While I'm sure that the steroid era is privately viewed as an overall positive by the the league's front office, since the sport was floundering prior to the steroid heyday, the impact of that era is still being felt today, with less fan loyalty (I'm talking loyalty, not attendance) and far more cynicism towards the game.

Football is heading down that very same path.

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

Titans 86 yhear old owner gets fined 250,000 dollars for flipping the bird to abusive fans by Der Fuhrerdell.

Pats lose a first round pick, and fined a million dollars by the corporate Criminaldell.

Fat slob,drunk, blubbering ,making obscene gestures and lewd remarks to young femalefans, the NFL's Wrecks Cryan gets fined 50 K by the Jets...NOTHING by Tammanydell.

Please...in the words of Vincent Caccardia in True Romance.."you're saying nothing but you're telling me everything"

Benito Baddell is just clinging to the hope that his planned criminal masterplan to hijack the Super Bowl and get a Jet/Giant matchup in 2014 stays on course.

Is this even English?

 

[dhamz]

You speak the exact truth. And Goodell's smiling claims that we, the fans, are behind this push is downright insulting.

Ask any season ticket holder to choose between paying for their 10 games and getting 8 regular season and 2 preseason or the 9-1 split Goddell is proposing and it is probably almost unanimous for the 9-1. That is where his statement comes from.

Now there are probably other options that fans might prefer more (such as not having to pay at all for preseason games or paying reduced rates) but those are not and never will be options since they would reduce revenue and one thing the owners and players agree on is there is no desire to entertain anything that does that.

 

[Triumph]

I don't know what's worse -- ignoring blatant existing problems or changing things on a whim usually for the worse

Like changing the Pro Bowl.

The season is long enough. If anything add 2 more playoff teams per conference.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I can't remember TB speaking out like this on any player related issue before.

When you think about it, you realize that he's in a unique position to understand the impact of an 18 game "real" season on players, since he's played in more of them than any QB in the league: 19 regular and 23 total games in 01, 03, 04, 06 and 07; 18 (22) games in 05. P. Manning comes in second with a 20 (24) game season in 06; 19 (23) game seasons in 03 and 09; an 18 (22) game season in 04.

Brady is quite passionate: "Look no further than the players that came before we did. Each player today has to play three years in order to earn five years of postcareer health care."

This doesn't sound like a guy who's going to conduct his own contract negotiations with a lot of warm and fuzzy feelings about management, especially after they throw his blind side protection up in the air.

 

[spacecrime]

I don't understand the disconnect on this issue. None of the fans I know want 18 games, and I sure don't. Yet, Goodell says the fans want it and Kraft says it won't hurt the players, talking like it's a done deal.

I want it and most people I know want it.

The question is simple: do you like to watch football or not?

Some people can take it or leave it. i am disappointed when the regular season ends, and would be happy to see more.

The 'more injuries' in an 18-game season is the dumbest argument in the world. A longer season does not have to mean more games per player. There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

All the records tied to a 16-game season remain intact. Players get three weeks off during the year which should actually benefit them more than the one week off they get now with the bye.

It just takes a little thought, that's all.

 

[spacecrime]

It's not about what fans want. It's about money. Even if the fans "don't want it", the networks will still show the 18 games, and the people will still watch them.

And you know why they will watch the games? Because they enjoy watching football games.

Of course fans want more games. If they didn't, then they wouldn't watch them and the league wouldn't make any money and this wouldn;t be a proposal.

But since most football fans enjoy watching football, they will watch it given the opportunity.

 

[RayClay]

What the hell, you can't be serious. David Stern's led NBA has been filled with corrupt officiating and is now turned into "foul-ball". Hell one of the refs under his watch went to PRISON. And Bud Selig completely ignored the steroid era, the most disgusting act in sports history if you ask me.

Roger Goodell has been a GREAT commissioner, it baffles me how any person can call him bad let alone THE WORST out of the 3 major sports. Changes under his watch....

Good
Three day draft = Proven sucess
Pro-Bowl before Super Bowl = Proven success
Harsh punishment for NFL thugs like Big Ben, Pacman = GREAT
Finally changing NFL overtime rules = GREAT
New York Super Bowl = GREAT
Adding third Thanksgiving Game = GREAT

Bad
NFL games outside of US (Dear god no, I will agree this is HORRIBLE)
Handling of SpyGate (Fine/draft pick were OUTRAGEOUS but I am glad he destroyed tapes)

So yeah Goodell has done A LOT more good than bad.

It's late Mr. Goodell, shouldn't you be at home with the wife?

YouTube - Fox News Top **** Blooper

 

[RayClay]

I'm looking forward to Super bowls with 3rd string QBs battling behind hobbled lines with one or two starters. Great for the sport.

Has goodie done anything that didn't actually lead to decreasing the quality of games? Excess travel, even that farce known as the pro Bowl will be played without participation from the two best teams.

Making players interrupt preparations to show up is a joke too.

My idea of having the useless contest in a different foreign city after the SB would let him have his international wish without screwing teams in the regular season.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

And you know why they will watch the games? Because they enjoy watching football games.

Of course fans want more games. If they didn't, then they wouldn't watch them and the league wouldn't make any money and this wouldn;t be a proposal.

But since most football fans enjoy watching football, they will watch it given the opportunity.

If you read the posts on this board, and talk to fans, most realize that an 18 game regular season would lead to too many injuries. Sure they'll still watch the games, but they are not ignorant of the consequences of adding more games. Like many, I am totally opposed to an 18 game season. Like them, I'll probably still watch all the games, but that does not mean that I want 18 games. Your logic is flawed.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

The 'more injuries' in an 18-game season is the dumbest argument in the world. A longer season does not have to mean more games per player. There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

Wow.... it's worse than I thought.

 

[Triumph]

And you know why they will watch the games? Because they enjoy watching football games.

Of course fans want more games. If they didn't, then they wouldn't watch them and the league wouldn't make any money and this wouldn;t be a proposal.

But since most football fans enjoy watching football, they will watch it given the opportunity.

How many more games where a team mails it in because they are already locked in the post season?

Its not enjoyable watching the Colts 2nd and 3rd string trying not to go 3 and out.

The fans paying arent getting their moneys worth and I already know that the team thats playing its starters will win.

 

[patchick]

The 'more injuries' in an 18-game season is the dumbest argument in the world. A longer season does not have to mean more games per player. There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

That, to me, is the ultimate nightmare scenario. You require each team to sit 2-3 starters every week, guaranteeing that every single game of the year is of lower quality for the fans. Just picture it: BB has to sit Tom Brady sometime, and the most strategic option is against the Colts. Fun for all! Then there are the awesome days where your franchise QB does play, but you intentionally remove key-olinemen who protect him. Just imagine the first time a top QB is injured that way. And of course, you'll have to expand rosters...in part because every team now employs 2 kickers, punters and long-snappers. Etc. Not for me, thanks.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

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There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

All the records tied to a 16-game season remain intact. Players get three weeks off during the year which should actually benefit them more than the one week off they get now with the bye.

It just takes a little thought, that's all.

Sometimes people post things out here and they're just being sarcastic and they leave out the Smilie and people jump all over them for being dumb and then they say, "Hey, can't you tell when someone is just kidding."

But, I think you might be serious. What you are suggesting is moving the two preseason games to the regular season when, presumably by a "wink wink" collusion the Pats would hold out Brady, Welker and/or other key players and their opponent would hold out Brees or Manning or Favre and others.

If you were a ticket holder, wouldn't you feel as ripped off as you do now for having to pay full freight for preseason games?

 

[BradyManny]

I don't understand the disconnect on this issue. None of the fans I know want 18 games, and I sure don't. Yet, Goodell says the fans want it and Kraft says it won't hurt the players, talking like it's a done deal.

Its a really bad sign and a bad precedent when a sport is compromised by business - or even worse, in this case, when it threatens to cause injury and problems for the players.

Take the NBA. Stern long ago decided he couldn't give a crap about the competition or what the fans want. He does whatever will yield the most $$.

If that means scheduling an East Coast playoff game at 9pm, nullifying part of the home court advantage that team was supposed to have by playing the game in their time zone - and prohibiting a huge part of the fanbase from watching the whole game, all in favor of a better ad-revenue time slot...so be it.

If that means assigning certain referees to certain games that he knows will call the game in a certain way to encourage a certain outcome and stretch these playoffs out as much as possible, all in favor of having consistent, accountable, professional referees....so be it.

Let's just hope that's not the path the NFL is going down.

 

[BradyManny]

I want it and most people I know want it.

The question is simple: do you like to watch football or not?

Some people can take it or leave it. i am disappointed when the regular season ends, and would be happy to see more.

The 'more injuries' in an 18-game season is the dumbest argument in the world. A longer season does not have to mean more games per player. There is no reason why an 18 game season has to mean players play more games.

There are ways to work around this, including a requirement that a player can play in only 16 regular season games. This will require the team to sit him 2 games a year.

All the records tied to a 16-game season remain intact. Players get three weeks off during the year which should actually benefit them more than the one week off they get now with the bye.

It just takes a little thought, that's all.

What?! So you'd rather watch an 18 game season where the best players - guys like Brady, Manning, Moss, guys who are the reason fans tune into these games - are FORCED to sit two games?

I'm sorry, but that couldn't make any less sense. Not only is that just a terrible idea business-wise, its a horrendous idea competition-wise. Why would it be fair that the Colts or Patriots should have to play 2 games with their 2nd string QB, for no reason? Not to mention, based on the rotation scenario you suggest, a team wouldn't be allowed to play with their entire group - and build chemistry - until the postseason. It would be a complete destruction to pretty much everything sports is about - competition, camaraderie, team-building.

Truly the absolute worst idea I've read on this board, which says a lot. No joke. I'm not trying to be a jerk. You're a long time poster and not trying to rip on you here. But please re-think. I don't think you followed that thought through to conclusion. Was your post sarcasm? Because otherwise, I'm really not following. Goodell will never, never go with that suggestion as it defeats the entire purpose of adding 2 regular season games.

So, throw that horrifyingly bad idea out - and go back to whether adding 2 games will add more injuries - and its obvious, yes, it will. Players are injured every week - if you lengthen the season 13%, you will probably see roughly 13% more injuries.