Minicamp Updates - day two

[DefenseRules]

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet Blog Archive What happened during the Patriots second day of mini-camp?

– The most interesting part of the practice came in a spirited, trash-talk filled goal line segment that saw both sides make an imprint. The thing that stood out was that it was loud. Both sides communicating each check.

– Another nice scene during goal line passing work.Randy Moss spotted WR Darnell Jenkins running his route wrong and called him over. Then Moss asked Tom Brady, who was also standing there, to pose as a defender while Moss showed Jenkins the proper technique.

Per Mike Reiss:
Observations from Patriots practice - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

 

[Leave No Doubt]

Dante Scarnecchia coordinating the running game. In each of the practices in organized team activities, offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia has led drills focused on the run game. He is especially hard on the linemen for missed mental assignments, and that was certainly the case today. He didn't seem happy with some of the reserve linemen.

Observations from Patriots practice - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

 

[Kontradiction]

Dante Scarnecchia coordinating the running game. In each of the practices in organized team activities, offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia has led drills focused on the run game. He is especially hard on the linemen for missed mental assignments, and that was certainly the case today. He didn't seem happy with some of the reserve linemen.

This speaks volumes about multiple topics covered ad nauseum on this forum. Liking the updates. The report about Brady and Tate connecting made me smile as did the report of Moss helping some of the younger receivers. I would really like to see something get done with him after the 2010 season is over.

 

[BradyManny]

This speaks volumes about multiple topics covered ad nauseum on this forum. Liking the updates. The report about Brady and Tate connecting made me smile as did the report of Moss helping some of the younger receivers. I would really like to see something get done with him after the 2010 season is over.

Co-sign. Can't understand how its a foregone conclusion that Moss is gone after 2010. If this team competes for a title and Brady and Moss retain their chemistry and put up similar #s to 2007 or 2009, all parties involved - Brady, Moss, the Patriots - would want to keep the band together.

 

[patriotscpfc]

Again the PFW blog is ignored despite it having the best information and the longest column per practice.

As I mentioned, the assistants on both sides of the ball were quite vocal. Matt Patricia, the de facto defensive coordinator who signaled in the defensive calls in team drills during practice, called his entire group on the carpet at one point. Veteran offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia berated Thomas Welch and John Wise after the left tackle and guard failed to read a combo-block properly in a drill. Bill O’Brien, the de facto offensive coordinator, had to send the entire receiver group off the field when rookie tight ends Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski couldn’t get lined up correctly on the left side of the formation. Much to O’Brien’s very vocal chagrin, the new, veteran group that replaced them didn’t run the play exactly right either. Whether it was a targeted tact by the coaching staff or a coincidence of mistakes, the assistants made their voices heard on Wednesday.

Official Patriots Football Weekly Blog Blog Archive From the Hart: Wednesday mini-camp observations

 

[Kontradiction]

Again the PFW blog is ignored despite it having the best information and the longest column per practice.



Official Patriots Football Weekly Blog Blog Archive From the Hart: Wednesday mini-camp observations

In the bigger picture, the entire mini-camp is being ignored in favor of Mankinsmania. I can't tell you how tired I am of hearing about Logan Mankins. These threads, regardless of information from PFW, are a much needed breath of fresh air.

 

[BradyManny]

On a side note, these updates really get me pumped for training camp.

 

[Schmo]

From the PFW article:

–Ohrnberger, Larsen, Pat Paschall, Chris Taylor and the yoked up, Mohawked Thomas Clayton were among those doing extra sprints on their own after practice. And if you want to keep track of these kinds of things, Robinson, Slater, Farnham, Wheatley, Mesko and Welch were the last guys to leave the field after post-practice work.

I'm curious to see which of these guys will do this on a regular basis. Interesting that Mesko, despite all signs pointing to him having a job locked up, puts in extra time.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

"Moss asked Tom Brady, who was also standing there, to pose as a defender while Moss showed Jenkins the proper technique."

Typical Moss. Picks slow, not agile Brady to pose as a defender just to make himself look good in front of the rook!

-phil (no longer a homo)

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

Co-sign. Can't understand how its a foregone conclusion that Moss is gone after 2010. If this team competes for a title and Brady and Moss retain their chemistry and put up similar #s to 2007 or 2009, all parties involved - Brady, Moss, the Patriots - would want to keep the band together.

Co-co-signed!

 

[jmt57]

As I mentioned, the assistants on both sides of the ball were quite vocal. Matt Patricia, the de facto defensive coordinator who signaled in the defensive calls in team drills during practice, called his entire group on the carpet at one point. Veteran offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia berated Thomas Welch and John Wise after the left tackle and guard failed to read a combo-block properly in a drill. Bill O’Brien, the de facto offensive coordinator, had to send the entire receiver group off the field when rookie tight ends Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski couldn’t get lined up correctly on the left side of the formation. Much to O’Brien’s very vocal chagrin, the new, veteran group that replaced them didn’t run the play exactly right either. Whether it was a targeted tact by the coaching staff or a coincidence of mistakes, the assistants made their voices heard on Wednesday.

Well, if someone is going to screw up, better to be a rookie than a vet. When I read the previous comment from another link which just said 'offensive lineman', that brought a bit of concern that perhaps it was somebody that will be counted on if Mankins does not play, such as Connolly or Ohrnberger or Kaczur.

As for Hernandez and Gronkowski, though they will be counted on much more than Welch and Wise will this season, it's unfortunate but not totally unexpected. It's not realistic to expect all these guys to get every single snap exactly right this quickly. It won't be easy but the Pats absolutely do need these two to step up and learn everything very quickly, however.

 

[Deus Irae]

Co-sign. Can't understand how its a foregone conclusion that Moss is gone after 2010. If this team competes for a title and Brady and Moss retain their chemistry and put up similar #s to 2007 or 2009, all parties involved - Brady, Moss, the Patriots - would want to keep the band together.

Moss doesn't expect to be a Patriot after 2010 - Extra Points - Boston.com

 

[BradyManny]

Moss doesn't expect to be a Patriot after 2010 - Extra Points - Boston.com

Suffice it to say, I think Moss is wrong in his feelings on the team - note that he started making these comments originally before Wilfork was signed. His perception of the team has proven inaccurate - they just paid one of their stars. If we win SB 45, for instance, I think there is a huge chance that Moss will be back.

 

[BradyManny]

Again the PFW blog is ignored despite it having the best information and the longest column per practice.



Official Patriots Football Weekly Blog Blog Archive From the Hart: Wednesday mini-camp observations

Good stuff, the PFW blog is underrated.

 

[Deus Irae]

Suffice it to say, I think Moss is wrong. If we win SB 45, for instance, I think there is a huge chance that Moss will be back.

You may be right, although Moss will look at the Mankins and Brady situations very closely, and his decision to switch agents in an effort to drum up maximum cash would seem (at least at first blush) to indicate that he's not going to play the "cheapest house in the neighborhood" game that the Patriots prefer.

However, I think Moss saying it explains why people would think it, and that's what I was responding to.

 

[BradyManny]

However, I think Moss saying it explains why people would think it, and that's what I was responding to.

Fair enough, thats a good point.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I'm curious to see which of these guys will do this on a regular basis. Interesting that Mesko, despite all signs pointing to him having a job locked up, puts in extra time.

No one has accused Mesko of being a dummy (maybe a bit clumsy. . . . ), and he probably knows Nick Folk went from All-Pro his rookie season to competing for a job this year.

 

[Gwedd]

I, too, am glad to be reading non-Mankins threads. Thanks to the OP.

 

[BradyBranch39]

Pete Carroll: Deion Branch, T.J. Houshmandzadeh OK for camp - ESPN

 

[Mike the Brit]

Interesting that Mesko, despite all signs pointing to him having a job locked up, puts in extra time.

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