OT: Brian Cushing suspended four games for PEDs

[PatsFanJess]

Not surprising. Really glad the Pats didn't draft him.

 

[BelichickFan]

Amazingly, the Commissioner is silent on stripping these cheaters of their honors (like DROY) which it is clear is in some measure due to PED use.

Yeah, the only reaction I have to this is that yet another team that ACTUALLY cheated loses no draft choices as punishment.

 

[K-Ro 25]

Lol maybe, I also am suspicious of clay matthews. Taylor mays also will get popped for roids one of these years

Metro area football?.......... given the above first shot photo, one might believe he was on estrogen and not roids.

 

[PatsChamp88]

Yeah, the only reaction I have to this is that yet another team that ACTUALLY cheated loses no draft choices as punishment.

Seriously?

 

[BelichickFan]

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. The Texans were cheating on the field, unlike the Patriots, and our penalty and reputation damage was far more severe.

 

[ausbacker]

Four games........ that's hardly a deterrent isn't it.

 

[PatsChamp88]

Yes, seriously. The Texans were cheating on the field, unlike the Patriots, and our penalty and reputation damage was far more severe.

So we should have given up a draft pick for Rodney Harrison's use of HGH?

 

[sbpatfan]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

 

[BelichickFan]

So we should have given up a draft pick for Rodney Harrison's use of HGH?

I don't consider HGH nearly on the level as anabolic steroids especially when you're using it to return from a serious injury as opposed to just cheating the weight room.

BTW, I'm not actually saying the Texans should lose a draft choice; what I meant to say is the Patriots SHOULDN'T have done. Having a suped up player affects the play on the field more and yet is punished less. Neither should lose draft choices but we should be lower on the list for potential penalties than actual cheaters.

 

[BelichickFan]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

The league is lucky they were able to steal a draft choice from us in that fake scandal. But we really should get back into that, it's been talked out.

 

[condon84]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

/end thread. Thanks for playing.

 

[PatsChamp88]

I don't consider HGH nearly on the level as anabolic steroids especially when you're using it to return from a serious injury as opposed to just cheating the weight room.

Double standards.

 

[BelichickFan]

Double standards.

Nope, just my opinion - which I explained a little more in the previous post since you replied.

I doubt anyone seriously considers what Harrison did even close to Cushing though.

 

[Deus Irae]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

I would say that you, perhaps, don't grasp the meaning of irony.

 

[ausbacker]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

This reminds me of a discussion I was having with someone the other day. In Australia, Adelaide is the capital city of the state of South Australia. There's two bitter rivals in Adelaide and Port Adelaide who play in the AFL (Australian Football League) which is the equivalent to the NFL. And no it's no rugby it's Aussie Rules. These two are the bitterest of rivals possibly the most bitter in the AFL.

Simon Goodwin the captain of Adelaide was fined $40,000 by the AFL for 4 personal bets totaling $16,000 on AFL matches a few years ago. Recently Matthew Primus, an assistant coach and past superstar ruck-man for Port Adelaide was suspended for 2 weeks for laying a $20 syndicate multi-bet across a pre-season match and the English Premier League.

The point is they are both violations of the AFL's zero tolerance rules on officials or players gambling on AFL matches however opposite ends of the spectrum. Adelaide Crows fans have been arguing with Port Adelaide Power fans that the punishment should be the same. Obviously the AFL disagrees.

Next time you feel like being high and mighty sbpatfan sit back and ask yourself this. What's worse than misinterpreting a rule, creating a media circus without grounding or merit and suffering an unjust penalty or flagrantly flaunting the NFL's substance abuse policy and getting a relative smack on the wrist?

I love the Patriots and if they do anything wrong the organization deserves the punishment that is dished out but using PED's is far worse than misinterpreting a rule IMO.

Perhaps the NFL finally woke up to itself and got serious in banning players for a season or two like most of the rest of the world does for performance enhancing substance abuse. Athletes across all sports these days are highly educated in doping standards that there's no excuse for inadvertent positive tests.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Spygate comments and "double standard" claims are idiotic, but they're to be expected from some people, unfortunately. However, we don't know the details on the failed test, so it's not fair to be bashing the guy yet. For all we know, this could be Starcaps redux.

 

[upstater1]

It's pretty funny that some of you want to strip these guys for their awards yet I didn't see any of you asking for the Commish to strip the Patriots of their Superbowls after spygate.

Irony at its best.

So, you're saying that Cushing didn't violate the rules.

 

[RodThePat]

Comparing the effects of steroids in athletic performance, and the advantages obtained from "spygate" is the most moronic thing I've ever read. Seriously, you should have your posting privileges revoked.

 

[condon84]

This reminds me of a discussion I was having with someone the other day. In Australia, Adelaide is the capital city of the state of South Australia. There's two bitter rivals in Adelaide and Port Adelaide who play in the AFL (Australian Football League) which is the equivalent to the NFL. And no it's no rugby it's Aussie Rules. These two are the bitterest of rivals possibly the most bitter in the AFL.

Simon Goodwin the captain of Adelaide was fined $40,000 by the AFL for 4 personal bets totaling $16,000 on AFL matches a few years ago. Recently Matthew Primus, an assistant coach and past superstar ruck-man for Port Adelaide was suspended for 2 weeks for laying a $20 syndicate multi-bet across a pre-season match and the English Premier League.

The point is they are both violations of the AFL's zero tolerance rules on officials or players gambling on AFL matches but on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Adelaide Crows fans have been arguing with Port Adelaide Power fans that the punishment should be the same. Obviously the AFL disagrees.

Next time you feel like being high and mighty sbpatfan sit back and ask yourself this. What's worse than misinterpreting a rule, creating a media circus without grounding or merit and suffering an unjust penalty or flagrantly flaunting the NFL's substance abuse policy and getting a relative smack on the wrist?

I love the Patriots and if they do anything wrong the organization deserves the punishment that is dished out but using PED's is far worse than misinterpreting a rule IMO.

Perhaps the NFL finally woke up to itself and got serious in banning players for a season or two like most of the rest of the world does for performance enhancing substance abuse. Athletes across all sports these days are highly educated in doping standards that there's no excuse for inadvertent positive tests.

Do you really believe BB's bs explanation that he "misinerpreted" the rule? I love the Pats, and defended them against other fans, but amongst other Pats fans, I'll freely admit BB was a moron for keeping the practice of videotaping after the NFL specifically faxed the new rule to teams prior to 2006 after a couple of teams complained against us for videotaping when we played against them.

Add to the fact that we did it against the Jets who just hired Mangini, who knew of our practices and who had an axe to grind, and in the first game of the season just weeks fresh after the fax was sent, it was just pure arrogance on BB's part. Simply a Nixonian type of move. So stupid.

 

[BelichickFan]

So, you're saying that Cushing didn't violate the rules.

The Patriots violated the rules - but Cushing affected the play on the field. Unlike the Patriots who just made a legal activity more accurate.

Regardless, it's best not to get drawn back to that ridiculous time.