Mankins' price just went up

[tanked_as_usual]

Jahri Evans of New Orleans Saints gets seven-year deal - ESPN

sometimes you simply bite the bullet before the last possible moment, or it winds up costing you a boatload

needless to say, you shouldn't expect to see mankins around until the season starts

 

[patsfan-1982]

it's going to cost the pats about 7 or 8 million a year to sign him and they should sign him this year will ther is no CAP so they can front load some of that cash


if not he will be in KC next year lol

 

[WelshPat]

He shouldn't get a bigger contract than Evans, Evans is the best guard in football

In NO offense, you could argue the guards on more important to protecting Brees than the tackles, because he is shorter and needs to move around to find passing lanes, those guards give him the room to do so. Brees can sense the rush so well he can get buy with someone like Bushrod playing LT, aslong as he has those dominating guards

 

[SS37]

They should try to keep the OL intact, or are they moving Light or Vollmer to G? Probably a bad idea. I agree with the above poster, he'll be a chief if we don't sign him

 

[Kontradiction]

He shouldn't get a bigger contract than Evans, Evans is the best guard in football

In NO offense, you could argue the guards on more important to protecting Brees than the tackles, because he is shorter and needs to move around to find passing lanes, those guards give him the room to do so. Brees can sense the rush so well he can get buy with someone like Bushrod playing LT, aslong as he has those dominating guards

I'm sure Mankins isn't going to look at it this way.

 

[Rob0729]

Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, we need to find out what the real deal is. It is a seven year deal so that means the last 2-3 years are bogus just to allow the agent look good. The $19 million in the first year is a whole heck of a lot, but he only makes about $3 million ayear over the next two. What is he making in year's four or five. Does he have a balloon payment in year six?

Even with the facts we know, Evans is getting paid really, really well; but it may not be nearly as lucrative as it sounds.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

They should try to keep the OL intact, or are they moving Light or Vollmer to G? Probably a bad idea. I agree with the above poster, he'll be a chief if we don't sign him

Only if KC coughs up draft picks.

 

[SanAngeloState]

With Ohrenberger and Bussey and Kaczur able to slide over to guard...I don't think they pay him huge money.

If they were going to they would have already.

There has to be some turnover at positions where you allow the new guys to play.

 

[RayClay]

If this guy's a Hannah type, so be it. Mankins isn't. He's a good player at a position that isn't real high value, so we make a deal or replace him.

 

[RodThePat]

Mankins is, by a good margin, the best OL in this team, and unquestionably one of the top guards in football. So you pay him as such unless you want to start Rich Ohrnberger. Those talking about the situation as if he is easily replaceable couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Kontradiction]

Letting Mankins walk would be a mistake. Ohrnberger is best suited as a back-up, we have NO idea what we have in Bussey, and Kaczur is not as good of a guard as Mankins is. Mankins is still relatively young and is one of the better guards in the league. We should do all we can to retain him.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

I'm sure Mankins isn't going to look at it this way.

I could care less if a player doesn't sign back with us because they want huge $$$$$. If the millions that they are making for playing a game for their career isn't enough then they don't deserve to be on a winning team. He can go to Oakland and lose.

 

[RodThePat]

I could care less if a player doesn't sign back with us because they want huge $$$$$. If the millions that they are making for playing a game for their career isn't enough then they don't deserve to be on a winning team. He can go to Oakland and lose.

If you could care less I guess it's all good.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

If you could care less I guess it's all good.

Good post.

 

[bucky]

Letting Mankins walk would be a mistake. Ohrnberger is best suited as a back-up, we have NO idea what we have in Bussey, and Kaczur is not as good of a guard as Mankins is. Mankins is still relatively young and is one of the better guards in the league. We should do all we can to retain him.

If Mankins wants that type of money and someone gives it to him, I say he can walk. I don't think KC will be the team that pays him. Mankins is a good player, but not a great one IMO. And guards simply aren't worth that kind of $$.

I don't think you know whether any of the young guys can start. And how do we know whether Light can handle LG? I bet he can do just fine. Worst case scenario, we can use one of our early pick on a replacement and use the $8 mil/year to get us some OLB/pass rush help, or perhaps a replacement for Moss.

 

[Kontradiction]

I could care less if a player doesn't sign back with us because they want huge $$$$$. If the millions that they are making for playing a game for their career isn't enough then they don't deserve to be on a winning team. He can go to Oakland and lose.

I'm sure Brady disagrees with this. We all saw what happened when sub-par guard play occured last year. Brady ended up with a slew of injuries and was suddenly ineffective when Stephen Neal left the game.

 

[Kontradiction]

If Mankins wants that type of money and someone gives it to him, I say he can walk. I don't think KC will be the team that pays him. Mankins is a good player, but not a great one IMO. And guards simply aren't worth that kind of $$.

I don't think you know whether any of the young guys can start. And how do we know whether Light can handle LG? I bet he can do just fine. Worst case scenario, we can use one of our early pick on a replacement and use the $8 mil/year to get us some OLB/pass rush help, or perhaps a replacement for Moss.

The fact that we don't know whether the young guy can start should only push the team harder to wrap up Mankins. Like I said, he's young and is easily one of the better guards in the league. I do not want to see the same problem that happened last year (sub-par guard play from Connolly once Neal left the game, which ended up meaning extra injuries to Brady) happen two years from now.

 

[Reckedtrek]

The fact that we don't know whether the young guy can start should only push the team harder to wrap up Mankins. Like I said, he's young and is easily one of the better guards in the league. I do not want to see the same problem that happened last year (sub-par guard play from Connolly once Neal left the game, which ended up meaning extra injuries to Brady) happen two years from now.

I agree- Mankins is still young and he's very, very good. I recently read that not only has he not missed a game since he started, but he hasn't missed a practice. Young, very good, reliable, healthy, he has a mean streak... What more do you want from him?

 

[Kontradiction]

I agree- Mankins is still young and he's very, very good. I recently read that not only has he not missed a game since he started, but he hasn't missed a practice. Young, very good, reliable, healthy, he has a mean streak... What more do you want from him?

Exactly. If anybody on the O-Line deserves to get paid, it's him. I sincerely hope they work something out with him. If they can't, then I hope they don't "Seymour" it and actually make sure that there is a more than capable body that comes in to replace him.

 

[spacecrime]

I could care less if a player doesn't sign back with us because they want huge $$$$$. If the millions that they are making for playing a game for their career isn't enough then they don't deserve to be on a winning team. He can go to Oakland and lose.

Exactly right. You cannot pay more than a couple players at the top of their position, and you have to pick those carefully. It is of course better to have Mankins than Compton but the Pats won a superbolw with Compton at LG. I sincerely doubt the future of the Pats hangs on the play of its guards as opposed to QB, WR, TE, pass rush, DBs, etc.

IMO a guard simply isn't worth breaking the bank for an upsetting the salary structure.

So I don't think what mankins can get from the Pats is related to other signings. They gave Wilfork more than hampton when everyone said Hampton set the going rate because they felt Wilfork had more value to the team. If they think Mankins has more value to the Pats success than Wilfork, they will pay Mankins more than WIlfork.

Personally, I doubt it. I think that if it wasn't for the change in RFA rules, Mankins would already be gone.