After today... This looks like a 9-7 team as of today..

[Sean Pa Patriot]

The future looks bright, but the team is still lacking some weapons to be a threat in the AFC in 2010...

Right now we might be the 5th or 6th best team..

Baltimore, NYJ, Miami, SD and Indy, are light years better than the us, wheather you like to admit or not...

Yes we have Brady, and Belichick but there are still some questions...

OLB- is a huge question mark... , RB who is the back??? and yes WR is a issue..

Why is WR a issue - what will Randy Moss be??? how long is Welker out?? is Holt the next Gaffney or Galloway???, Edleman and Tate ,espically Tate is a huge question mark at best... Cant expect Pryce or Patten to be the awnser...

OLB starters right now are TBC, Nikovitch and Woods... Dont tell me Cunningham will be the starting OLB week 1... He is a year away yet...

As a AFC fav, its the ravens, and we have a chance in the divison, but there are too many questions and key spots to say we are a super bowl or even a playoff team right now...

 

[JackBauer]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

How can we still be a 9-7 team when we were never one to begin with?

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

How can we still be a 9-7 team when we were never one to begin with?

We were a fumble or a great comback by Brady in week 1 from being a 9-7 team this past year...

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

I would think between 8-10 wins right now

I think the team is going to add some vets and JAGS later on which could help get back to 10 wins again

Its a growing process,this team is quickly getting very young after being the grandpas of the NFL for awhile....hopefully young and talented

 

[The Dynasty]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

We were a fumble or a great comback by Brady in week 1 from being a 9-7 team this past year...

We were a yard from being 11-5 this past year...

I dont see your logic...you are what your record says you are

 

[JackBauer]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

We were a fumble or a great comback by Brady in week 1 from being a 9-7 team this past year...

Yeah, yeah. You can make the same argument to say we were almost an 11 or 12 win team. Means absolutely nothing.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

We were a yard from being 11-5 this past year...

I dont see your logic...you are what your record says you are

So we win that game and lose the Bills game 10-6 is still the record, unless you want to talk about that Houston game... But this year could be a 9-7 team...

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

If the NFL had only 3 quarters last year I think we would have been 13-3

As the old saying goes, it is what it is

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

Yeah, yeah. You can make the same argument to say we were almost an 11 or 12 win team. Means absolutely nothing.

well if we were a 12 team win, we might have had a bye , so yeah it ment something.. But if's and buts were candy and nuts everyday would be christmas.. Doesnt matter your right, but this year, has the makings right now with the improvments the Ravens, Jets and Dolphins did , this 2010 team has the makings of a 9-7 team.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

I am going to have to disagree with you here. While the Jets, Ravens and Dolphins improved a lot, I believe we did as well.

The OLB spot will either be Damione Lewis, who is decent, and/or Jermaine Cunningham. Spikes will take over at ILB. At LB, we will have
Lewis/CUnningham -Spikes-Mayo-Thomas/Crable.

Brady has a couple of new weapons. Rob Gronkowski is the most complete TE in the draft. Think Jason Witten. Do you realize how good the pats passing attack will be if we add a Jason Witten type to the team? Him along with Torry Holt and the return of wes welker will make our passing game difficult to stop. Plus Aaron hernandez was the 3rd best TE in the draft - not quite as good as Gronk but still darn good.

Devin McCourty could be the next Ronde Barber. He can play all 4 downs and is physical and a great tackler.

While I agree we did not get better at RB, we still rushed for close to 2000 yards last year. And do you remember what happened in 2002 after we went 9-7, we had a spectacular draft and ended up going 13-3 and winning the super bowl the following year.

 

[The Dynasty]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

So we win that game and lose the Bills game 10-6 is still the record, unless you want to talk about that Houston game... But this year could be a 9-7 team...

Right it could also be a 12-4 team, it could even be a 5-11 team. We dont know what can happen, we dont know who will we add between now and the start of the season, we dont know how our draft picks will work out or injured players from last year, and god forbidding someone could get injured. Way too early to be putting a record with the team

 

[RobertWeathers]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

Lets look position by position (comparing the 10-6 roster from last year) and the assumption is that the kids from 1-4th round contribute. Maybe sprinkle in a surprise from the latter rounds...

QB-Same
RB-Same
OL-improved (Vollmer players more, kids develop, etc.)
TE-Who knows, but I say improved
WR-decline (for Welker). But if hes 80% of what he was last year, the unit is solid.

Overall production- Improvement

DT- Improved
DE-Same (can't get worse IMO)
OLB- Same (see above)
ILB -Improved
Safety-Improved (Chung will be light years ahead of last year)
CB/Nickel/Dime- Improved (Butler will be vastly better. McCourty will be solid)

KR-Improved
PR Improved
FG-Same
Punting-I'll say same. Don't want to be overzealous over Zoltan.
ST coverage- Improved

Still more players to be had, but they are a better team today than the one that ended vs BALT.

With that said, BALT may be the team to beat this year.

 

[Snake Eyes]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

If the NFL had only 3 quarters last year I think we would have been 13-3

As the old saying goes, it is what it is

Yeah, and British people had better teeth they'd be more attractive, but they don't, what's your point?

If this team is still prone to melting down in late in the game then we're not that good of a team.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

This thread is the water never made it into the glass to begin with thread.

 

[Kontradiction]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

Sounds like you're being a contrarian just be be one. A lot of our draft picks this weekend are capable of starting immediately. We appear to have upgraded immensely at TE and, simultaneously, have upgraded at WR. I'm a Gator fan and have seen a lot of Cunningham and Spikes and am very high on both of them. At this point, we can stand to add a FB (probably through first cuts later on this offseason) and maybe a guard on the offense and we're still in need of a DE on the defense. However, even that considered, we are not a 9-7 team.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

Lets look position by position (comparing the 10-6 roster from last year)

QB-Same
RB-Same
OL-improved (Vollmer players more, kids develop, etc.)
TE-Who knows, but I say improved
WR-decline (for Welker). But if hes 80% of what he was last year, the unit is solid.

Overall production- Improvement

DT- Improved
DE-Same (can't get worse IMO)
OLB- Same (see above)
ILB -Improved
Safety-Improved (Chung will be light years ahead of last year)
CB/Nickel/Dime- Improved (Butler will be vastly better. McCourty will be solid)

KR-Improved
PR Improved
FG-Same
Punting-I'll say same. Don't want to be overzealous over Zoltan.
ST coverage- Improved

Still more players to be had, but they are a better team today than the one that ended vs BALT.

With that said, BALT may be the team to beat this year.

The Bengals are getting pretty sick and loaded on that roster as well,Baltimore will have thier hands full with a rock solid Bengals team who is stacked in just about everywhere now,the division will be between those two.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

You're assuming that:
-Brady won't be better this year than he was in his first year back from major injury. We all know how much of a difference Brady can make when he is at his best.
-Defense that was completely rebuilt a year ago won't grow/improve with another year under their belts.
-Mayo won't be more effective at full strength after last year's injury clearly hampered him.
-Holt and the progress of Edelman/hopefully Tate as well will not give us a deeper recieving core that was sorely lacking most of last season.
-Rookies will add nothing.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

We were a fumble or a great comback by Brady in week 1 from being a 9-7 team this past year...

DUDE - take your negativity and climb back under whatever rock you were hiding last season.. Seriously DUDE. You making that prediction is so friggin asinine.

BTW, if you're going to throw out your idiotic excuse for the win at Buffalo, why not also mention the BS call against the Pats during the Colts Game.. That's call gave the game to the Colts.. So, I could say the Pats should have been 11-5 last year. It's just as asinine as what you're saying.. Which is why I don't.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

The Bengals are getting pretty sick and loaded on that roster as well,Baltimore will have thier hands full with a rock solid Bengals team who is stacked in just about everywhere now,the division will be between those two.

I agree. Pitt will be competitive but their D needs a revamping as well.

 

[upstater1]

Re: After today... Still a 9-7 team..

We were a fumble or a great comback by Brady in week 1 from being a 9-7 team this past year...

LOL, I tend to think we were 13-3 last year (Texans throw game, loss to the Phins a joke, Broncos come on, Indy ROFL). Make that 14-2.

But no one cares what I think.