Jason Pierre-Paul???

[Zeus]

Could BB be looking to move up to snag South Florida DE Jason Pierre-Paul?

From Mike Lombardi yesterday:

Every team I talk to wants to move down, and few want to move up. Green Bay, Philadelphia and New England might want to move up for the right player.

Most teams I talk with always ask me where I hear defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul is going to be drafted — which tells me they have interest in him. My guess is Jacksonville. He’s a hot guy right now.​

Now today Lombardi says:

I know that South Florida DE Jason Pierre-Paul is in high demand, and a team picking in the 20s might be moving up to get him.​

 

[RobertWeathers]

With improving a pass rush being the #1 priority, I would applaud the move up to grab him.

 

[Barnsie]

I wouldn't move up for him, but if he's there, it's something to consider. I'd prefer somebody a little more...hmm...safe with our #1 pick though.

 

[JackBauer]

Not interested in this guy at all.

God help Jacksonville if they draft him.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Derrick Morgan

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not interested in this guy at all.

God help Jacksonville if they draft him.

I admit that I don't do a ton of reading on all the players available, but the scouting reports on him are pretty favorable.

Why are you not high on him, Jack?

 

[JackBauer]

I admit that I don't do a ton of reading on all the players available, but the scouting reports on him are pretty favorable.

Why are you not high on him, Jack?

I just think the bust potential on JPP is off the charts.

He's only played one season of college football at a high level. He's not very bulky for a 3-4 OLB, and would likely need a lot of time to develop both his frame and proper technique. IOW, he's not the guy to help us right away, which is what we desperately need.

From PFW:

"He won't be ready," one GM said. "He will be outmanned. He will be lost. He has no football experience and only (13) games of football against a lower level of Division I football (competition). It's not like he lined up against Alabama and Georgia. He is not a pass rusher. He is late off the ball. He does not transition easily. I don't like tall, thin-legged guys that cannot convert speed into power."

Another top executive said: "Why take a chance on reaches in the first round that may never perform? It blows my mind how anyone could interview or put on the film and say, 'Wow.' If there is something we have learned through the years, it is that rushing the passer is not an easy art to teach."

"I know you got issues with a bunch of things non-football-related," a scout said. "I think everyone understands he is a rep player (needing a lot of repetitions). He did not get to school until the week before the season started, so he did not start the first three weeks, when they were not playing any big opponents (Wofford, Western Kentucky and Charleston Southern)."

Pretty much sums up how a feel. Basically, he's a medium-to-long term project.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I just think the bust potential on JPP is off the charts.

He's only played one season of college football at a high level. He's not very bulky for a 3-4 OLB, and would likely need a lot of time to develop both his frame and proper technique. IOW, he's not the guy to help us right away, which is what we desperately need.

From PFW:



Pretty much sums up how a feel. Basically, he's a medium-to-long term project.

Good info. Based on this info, I would tend to favor Kindle if the opportunity presents itself to draft him.

 

[PATSNUTme]

As I just posted on the JPP thread on Draft Forum.

I like them to be real football players. This guy had a whole half season of experience and his production fell off toward the end when offenses actually started to block him.

This guy is a huge boom or bust prospect. And for those impressed with his back flips an OT name Aaron Gibson use to do them before games. I think the Packers would like to have that pick back.

 

[Schmo]

Derrick Morgan

.....:ditto:

 

[SeauOUCH]

The Pats trading up for JPP is one of the few things that would ruin my draft night.

 

[Rob0729]

I really have a gut feel the Pats will trade up, but I am actually thinking they will have two firsts when everything is said and done.

 

[TomPatriot]

Not happening.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

I'll betcha the team he's talking about moving up to get him is the Eagles.

 

[eagle eye]

JPP is a perfect fit for the Patriots but I think he will be gone a lot earlier than a lot think.

 

[Urgent]

I would be shocked to see the Patriots select him.
Doesn't seem to be a fit at all.
Extremely limited experience.
Not obvious that football is his life.
Large risks.

The Patriots first round picks under the Belichick era have all been fairly low risk.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

I have Denver taking him at #11....

 

[TheComeback]

JPP is a perfect fit for the Patriots but I think he will be gone a lot earlier than a lot think.

No, he really isn't a perfect fit. For anyone. The guy has zero explosion, no physical bulk (either for a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB), and he doesn't have exceptional strength for the position. On top of all that, just based on watching clips of him play, he is an extremely low effort player. If he misses the QB or gets blocked, he simply quits. He literally starts jogging around the field if he fails to hit the QB within a few seconds.

I hope the Pats stay away from this guy. I will be surprised if he develops into a successful NFL pass rusher.

 

[supafly]

Derrick Morgan

Box--If I'm not mistaken, Morgan is also represented by CAA sports and Tom Condon. That basically crosses him off the list, even in the small chance that we'd move up to get him.

Same goes for Jerry Hughes, who many of us would be happy with.

Damn that Condon and his CAA sports.