My 4 with 9 days to go

[BelichickFan]

Like most, I am swaying in the wind a little but :

1) Everson Griffen. Reports of lack of effort (at times) worry me but it doesn't seem like a huge problem and I love his size/athleticism combination.

2a) Arreious Benn. I really want a WR this year to compete for time now and not be a rookie in 2011 if Moss is gone. I think I read he had a low Wunderlich which is a concern but I like everything else about him.

2b) Tyson Alualu. I considered Carrington and Wooten but in the end I settled for a 3-4 DE with a higher floor and lower ceiling.

2c) Ricky Sapp. Same concern about Griffin but if we need a pass rusher there comes a time we have to ignore the imperfections and get a talented athlete in here. Sapp at WOLB and Griffen and SOLB could be a good future.

 

[Water Boy]

Not too shabby.

 

[Marqui]

1) Dez Bryant
2a) Greg Hardy
2b) Corey Wooton
2c) Jared Veldheer

 

[BelichickFan]

1) Dez Bryant
2a) Greg Hardy
2b) Corey Wooton
2c) Jared Veldheer

That's an interesting group with a great upside but a crazy high bust potential too. I'm not enough of a gambler to that that group.

 

[WhiZa]

A real boom or bust type draft. IBFWT

 

[Marqui]

That's an interesting group with a great upside but a crazy high bust potential too.

Gotta keep up with the Jets!

But really, only Hardy is risky cause of his injury history. I think Bryant's character concerns are way overblown. All pro day reports say Wotoon looks perfectly healthy now. And Veldheer is about as much of a risk/reward as Vollmer was.

 

[DocE]

Like most, I am swaying in the wind a little but :

1) Everson Griffen. Reports of lack of effort (at times) worry me but it doesn't seem like a huge problem and I love his size/athleticism combination.

2a) Arreious Benn. I really want a WR this year to compete for time now and not be a rookie in 2011 if Moss is gone. I think I read he had a low Wunderlich which is a concern but I like everything else about him.

2b) Tyson Alualu. I considered Carrington and Wooten but in the end I settled for a 3-4 DE with a higher floor and lower ceiling.

2c) Ricky Sapp. Same concern about Griffin but if we need a pass rusher there comes a time we have to ignore the imperfections and get a talented athlete in here. Sapp at WOLB and Griffen and SOLB could be a good future.

I like all 4 of the guys you picked to varying degrees, so I'd be happy with your first two rounds. The one guy I am up up in the air on Alualu as a 3-4 DE, he really seems like a UT in 4-3 scheme to me (I know he's actually played some 3-4 end at Cal, but so did Trevor Laws at Notre Dame). Regardless Alualu is a good player.

 

[BelichickFan]

But really, only Hardy is risky cause of his injury history. I think Bryant's character concerns are way overblown. All pro day reports say Wotoon looks perfectly healthy now. And Veldheer is about as much of a risk/reward as Vollmer was.

Bryant's intelligence (he sounds really dumb when he talks is what worries me about him). I like Wooten but I could see him being a little small for DE or outgrowing LB. With Veldheer, I would like to think this draft is deeper than last year so a similar pick to Vollmer isn't necessary.

I'm not trying to sound critical of your guys, just explaining why they weren't on my list.

 

[BelichickFan]

I like all 4 of the guys you picked to varying degrees, so I'd be happy with your first two rounds. The one guy I am up up in the air on Alualu as a 3-4 DE, he really seems like a UT in 4-3 scheme to me (I know he's actually played some 3-4 end at Cal, but so did Trevor Laws at Notre Dame). Regardless Alualu is a good player.

I feel the same about Alualu but it sounds like he has the strength and hands to play DE for us. Believe me, he's not my perfect choice but I like him enough to put him on my list.

 

[DW Toys]

Like most, I am swaying in the wind a little but :

1) Everson Griffen. Reports of lack of effort (at times) worry me but it doesn't seem like a huge problem and I love his size/athleticism combination.

2a) Arreious Benn. I really want a WR this year to compete for time now and not be a rookie in 2011 if Moss is gone. I think I read he had a low Wunderlich which is a concern but I like everything else about him.

2b) Tyson Alualu. I considered Carrington and Wooten but in the end I settled for a 3-4 DE with a higher floor and lower ceiling.

2c) Ricky Sapp. Same concern about Griffin but if we need a pass rusher there comes a time we have to ignore the imperfections and get a talented athlete in here. Sapp at WOLB and Griffen and SOLB could be a good future.

Not bad at all but would like to change #22.. Still rather have Ray Edwards at #22 in a RFA deal. 2013 would be a great year as all of these picks will emerge. I worry about 2010 Cousins. Don't sugar coat it with "the Draft will save the world".

If we are all set in a little wait, your picks are very good. Salute
DW Toys

 

[patsfan55]

Right now my 4 (this could change in a few days...hour....minut....who am i kidding, seconds)

1. Sergio Kindle
2. Damian Williams
3. Tyson Alualu
4. Austen Lane

 

[BPF]

Here's Bunting's take.

I tend to agree with this take on Griffen, not so much Kindle. Griffen looks like a playmaker, but to me TCU's Hughes is one. I like Highes much better than Griffen. Off the field concerns for Kindle sour me on him a little bit, I do like him as a player. Kindle is a much better prospect than Griffen.

Five prospects who aren?t worth the love | National Football Post

Everson Griffen, DE, USC

Physically, this guy has the skill set to mature into a productive NFL pass rusher and will likely be drafted in the first round because of it. However, any time I watch tape of Griffen, I simply don’t see the type of production you’d expect from a guy with his athletic skill set. Now, he does have the first step needed to get on top of opposing tackles quickly as a pass rusher, but too often he allows his pad level to get upright when trying to flatten out around the edge and easily gets push past the pocket. He also doesn’t play the run nearly as well as his frame would suggest. He does have some natural power on contact but really struggles when asked to stack and shed at the point of attack and fails to use his hands well enough to disengage from blocks (see Stanford). Overall, I think Griffen does have pass rush ability because of his first step, power and suddenness on contact, but I think he’s only slightly above average in that area and just doesn’t do it for me enough in the run game to warrant a first-round selection. I would much rather take the safer and harder-working Tyson Alualu (DL, California) than Griffen at this stage.

Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

As I’ve stated in the past, I’m not a big fan of Kindle, and in no way would I touch this guy in the first round. Whenever I breakdown this guy’s game, it’s obvious he’s a strong, explosive athlete who has the ability to track the football and quickly close on the play. However, in what most consider being the strong suit to his game, his ability to get after the passer isn’t nearly as impressive as it should be to be considered a first-round prospect. The reason I say that is because on tape he’s simply too much of a linear athlete who struggles to be sudden or change directions cleanly as a pass rusher and is more of a one-trick pony at this stage. He does have a good first step when asked to stand up and possesses some natural power on contact. But the kind of fluidity, balance and body control needed to be an elite caliber pass rusher at the next level are just not there for me to feel comfortable taking him in the first round.

 

[BelichickFan]

I tend to agree with this take on Griffen, not so much Kindle. Griffen looks like a playmaker, but to me TCU's Hughes is one. I like Highes much better than Griffen.

I think of Griffen on the Strong Side and Hughes on the Weak Side so I wasn't really looking at them equally. I like Hughes and would definitely take him at 2a if he were there. His type is a little more plentiful in this draft, though, which is why I took Griffen first then settled for Sapp.

That doesn't mean I'm right, but that's my thinking.

 

[Marqui]

Here's Bunting's take.

I tend to agree with this take on Griffen, not so much Kindle. Griffen looks like a playmaker, but to me TCU's Hughes is one. I like Highes much better than Griffen. Off the field concerns for Kindle sour me on him a little bit, I do like him as a player. Kindle is a much better prospect than Griffen.

Five prospects who aren?t worth the love | National Football Post

I think Bunting is absolutely right about both of those guys. Them two, along with Pierre-Paul and Dunlap, to me seem like nothing more than athletic freaks in a football uniform. I wouldn't touch any of em.

 

[patriotscpfc]

Not bad at all but would like to change #22.. Still rather have Ray Edwards at #22 in a RFA deal.

Wow, you've never mentioned that before

:bricks:

 

[Coach42]

DBryant
Dunlap
Troup
McCluster

 

[chevss454]

I think Bunting is absolutely right about both of those guys. Them two, along with Pierre-Paul and Dunlap, to me seem like nothing more than athletic freaks in a football uniform. I wouldn't touch any of em.

I would add Sapp to your list of JPP, Dunlap, and Griffen. Sapp is a terrific athlete but, like JPP, has little in the way of football instincts. At least Kindle has football instincts and a high motor. He can be coached. Griffen's knock, as Dunlap, is his lack of motor and inconsistency.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Not bad at all but would like to change #22.. Still rather have Ray Edwards at #22 in a RFA deal. 2013 would be a great year as all of these picks will emerge. I worry about 2010 Cousins. Don't sugar coat it with "the Draft will save the world".

If we are all set in a little wait, your picks are very good. Salute
DW Toys

I keep seeing people talking about Ray Edwards. I live in MN and see the Vikings all the time. Ray Edwards is a classic 4-3 DE, nothing more. I do not see how people project him to be an OLB when he has never flashed the necessary skills to do so. We would essentially be playing him at standup DE, because he has never shown me that he has the skills to do the things Belichick asks his elephant to do. Plus, he's really only had one good year. Last season everyone was complaining that despite having Allen and the Williamses taking up all of the attention, he produced 5 sacks (and in the Vikings defense, sacks actually matter). He also seems to be somewhat of a me-first type of guy. No way is he worth trading their first rounder for, not even close. Vikings fans would jump for joy.

 

[Taxed in Maine]

DBryant
Dunlap
Troup
McCluster

This is the draft you really want for the Pats??

Other than Troup, I would consider this a very good candidate for the "All-Bust" Draft!!

If I go to bed next Friday night with those 4 names on my draft sheet I won't get any sleep because I will be up all night vomiting.

 

[CTHuskies]

Like most, I am swaying in the wind a little but :

1) Everson Griffen. Reports of lack of effort (at times) worry me but it doesn't seem like a huge problem and I love his size/athleticism combination.

2a) Arreious Benn. I really want a WR this year to compete for time now and not be a rookie in 2011 if Moss is gone. I think I read he had a low Wunderlich which is a concern but I like everything else about him.

2b) Tyson Alualu. I considered Carrington and Wooten but in the end I settled for a 3-4 DE with a higher floor and lower ceiling.

2c) Ricky Sapp. Same concern about Griffin but if we need a pass rusher there comes a time we have to ignore the imperfections and get a talented athlete in here. Sapp at WOLB and Griffen and SOLB could be a good future.

How about:

22 Everson Griffen USC OLB - Not worried about intensity
44 Kareem Jackson Alabama CB - If not available, Devin McCourty or Patrick Robinson
47 Marcus Easley Connecticut WR - Pats like Randy Edells' kids
53 Jared Veldheer Hillsdale OT - Think Seabass

Rest of the draft:
119 Dennis Pitta BYU TE - or Tony Moeaki
190 Mike Kafka Northwestern QB - need another smart QB
205 Nate Byham Pittsburgh TE - Blocker
229 Zoltan Mesko Michigan P - Real need
231 Jameson Konz Kent State FB/TE - why not try to look for gold again
247 Jeron Mastrud Kansas State TE - Blocker - Developmental prospect
248 Danny Batten South Dakota State ILB - Developmental prospect
250 Adrian Tracy William & Mary OLB - Developmental prospect