5 weeks into FA season, Pats' approach still makes no sense

[ramon]

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. The wind has been taken out of most fans' sails by this passive offseason approach.

Still makes No sense whatsoever.
Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

Rely on ROOKIES to get you over the hump, including three second round drat picks...how does that make sense.

OK so they didn't want to pay big bucks to Peppers or Boldin...there still were many VETERANS who could have helped this team. Damion Lewis and Alge Crumpler thats how they make this team better

One thing is certain...if the PATS don't pick up some veteran playmakers they will not compete with the Jets or Dolphins this year.

This offseason sucks...and if you think the draft will make it all better...give it up


By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

 

[capetide]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. The wind has been taken out of most fans' sails by this passive offseason approach.

Still makes No sense whatsoever.
Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

Rely on ROOKIES to get you over the hump, including three second round drat picks...how does that make sense.

OK so they didn't want to pay big bucks to Peppers or Boldin...there still were many VETERANS who could have helped this team. Damion Lewis and Alge Crumpler thats how they make this team better

One thing is certain...if the PATS don't pick up some veteran playmakers they will not compete with the Jets or Dolphins this year.

This offseason sucks...and if you think the draft will make it all better...give it up


By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

Which veteran playmakers were available that the Pats passed on? What free agents did you think they shou;d have gone after? What moves did the Jets make that you expect to make a huge difference? (BTW I think Cromartie is overhyped. Ask the Charger fans about his performance the last couple of years.)

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. The wind has been taken out of most fans' sails by this passive offseason approach.

Still makes No sense whatsoever.
Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

Rely on ROOKIES to get you over the hump, including three second round drat picks...how does that make sense.

OK so they didn't want to pay big bucks to Peppers or Boldin...there still were many VETERANS who could have helped this team. Damion Lewis and Alge Crumpler thats how they make this team better

One thing is certain...if the PATS don't pick up some veteran playmakers they will not compete with the Jets or Dolphins this year.

This offseason sucks...and if you think the draft will make it all better...give it up


By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

Belichick wants 2 top 10 picks next year ... nobody told you. :confused3:

 

[Feep50]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Belichick wants 2 top 10 picks next year ... nobody told you. :confused3:

This made me laugh out loud!

 

[Sciz]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Give us names. Which FAs did you want? And would you rather have had them than Wilfork, Bodden, TBC, Faulk, or Neal? Because if you count the guys the Pats kept, this has been one of the best offseasons so far.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

So blow away money? We're for sure going to have a cap again after this year so why destroy our chances of keeping and adding newer players for one go for it all year with still multiple holes?

The fact is this team right now is a 10 win team. And for that matter the Patriots and NFL staff no for sure that this year more than any other year ever there are going to be more veteran cuts after the draft.

We still might see very good players get cut that we can then fill holes much cheaper than what we would have paid 2 months ago.

Give it time its only April, early April at that.

 

[pabst37]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. The wind has been taken out of most fans' sails by this passive offseason approach.

Still makes No sense whatsoever.
Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

Rely on ROOKIES to get you over the hump, including three second round drat picks...how does that make sense.

OK so they didn't want to pay big bucks to Peppers or Boldin...there still were many VETERANS who could have helped this team. Damion Lewis and Alge Crumpler thats how they make this team better

One thing is certain...if the PATS don't pick up some veteran playmakers they will not compete with the Jets or Dolphins this year.

This offseason sucks...and if you think the draft will make it all better...give it up


By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

Why is everyone so enamored with the Jets offseason - they traded for a cornerback that hasn't done anything in this league in a couple of years - could he peform this year, sure, but I'm sure if the Pats had acquired him everyone would be pointing to the Chargers/Jets game and his lack of tackling as a reason it was a bad move. They got rid of a very good running back that consistently performed and replaced him with a selfish over the hill running back thats played in warm weather for the last 10 years and who's recent playoff performances have consisted of him sitting on the sidelines pouting. I'm looking forward to Tomlinson playing smashmouth football in December in New York - I'm picturing him sitting on the bench with his head down and a coat on to keep him warm.

I certainly think the Jets are going to be a good team this year but the fascination with their offseason seems crazy to me and good luck to them if Shonn Greene goes down because if their running game disappears, Sanchez will be throwing picks everywhere.

If you want to complain that the Pats haven't done anything then I have no problem with that, although I like what they've done this offseason. Who else were they expected to sign - the FA market was pathetic this year. They made an offer to Peppers, but what's the point in overpaying for him.

If the Jets or Dolphins had 4 picks in the top 53 we'd all be crying that they've positioned themselves in a deep draft to get 4 solid players... It seems that the Pats can't do anything to please people anymore - if they go out and sign a bunch of veterans everyone complains that there getting old and signing JAGS, if they don't sign JAGS and accumulate draft picks then we complain that their to young and not taking advantage of Brady... This is the reason I hardly visit this board anymore - its not the lack of signings by the Pats - its the constant whinning about everything.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Give us names. Which FAs did you want? And would you rather have had them than Wilfork, Bodden, TBC, Faulk, or Neal? Because if you count the guys the Pats kept, this has been one of the best offseasons so far.

Lol no it hasnt its been a quality offseason but not one of the best.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. The wind has been taken out of most fans' sails by this passive offseason approach.

Still makes No sense whatsoever.
Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

Rely on ROOKIES to get you over the hump, including three second round drat picks...how does that make sense.

OK so they didn't want to pay big bucks to Peppers or Boldin...there still were many VETERANS who could have helped this team. Damion Lewis and Alge Crumpler thats how they make this team better

One thing is certain...if the PATS don't pick up some veteran playmakers they will not compete with the Jets or Dolphins this year.

This offseason sucks...and if you think the draft will make it all better...give it up


By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

I do agree with you to a point. I agree that you cannot rely on rookies to bring us over the top. We do need more veterans on this team. The Patriots are playing it smart. There could be a lock out next season. Also, we have a lot of time to make moves. The draft hasnt started yet and i think we will see some surprise moves or trades for veteran restricted free agents. Patience is a virtue. I do agree with you about the die hard homers who think they are the only one who is right. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION. Its about RESPECT! Treat people how you want to be treated. We have a long way till the season starts and i have a feeling we will be in a more 4-3 attacking defense than a 3-4 two gap defense. We shall see. We have no idea whats going on and thats what BB wants!

 

[BradyFTW!]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Brady in his prime with a few more years left. Why not go all out now...like the JETS and try to win it while you still can.

I know that you're a closet Jets troll and all, but **** it, I'm going to take the bait: what exactly have the Jets done that qualifies them as going 'all out'?

The lack of the new CBA killed the FA pool, and the result of that is what you're seeing now: nobody's really improving a whole lot. Seriously, go ahead and name the teams that have substantially improved since the end of last season. I'll even help you out: the Ravens. Adding Stallworth and Boldin is huge for them, and IMO they're now the favorites in the AFCN, if not the AFC entirely. The Bears? They got Peppers, so there's that, but still haven't addressed their major issues. They're still pretty far from being serious competitors. The Redskins, I guess, since McNabb is a real upgrade, even if Parker and Johnson aren't any good and he still doesn't have anyone to throw to.

Who else? The Jets just swapped one overrated CB who hasn't had a standout season in years for another, and a productive over-30 RB for a washed-up one. If you'd told me that the Pats could have made it to this point in the offseason with no significant losses, and Wilfork and Bodden signed long-term, I would have taken that from day one. I'd like to see Brady and Mankins extended, and would prefer to see some WR depth added, but there was never a feasible means of addressing the lack of pass rush, so I can't hold that against them. Bottom line, like everyone else, the Pats just have to hit on the draft.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Personally I think this team is 2 or 3 years away from being a true contender for a championship,we took steps back with some bad FA moves and too many poor draft picks the past couple of years (I know hindsight would have helped) thus I think we must be patient if we are to relive the past early decade,it will not happen overnight and unless it is 2001 all over again it probably won't happen in 2010 but the excitement of not being expected to do anything is still exciting,it may make players work harder and a good portion of this roster has never won a super bowl.

I hated being the favorite and now we are about 5th odds of winning it all,who knows, miracles can happen

Just show me a team of the decade that did not struggle in thier next decade...I can't find any in NFL history

70s Steelers - Not so good much of the 80s
80s 49ers - Not very good much of the 90s
90s Cowboys - a laughing stock after the first round of the playoffs,mediocre for much of it
2000s Patriots?....to be determined

And whats even more worrysome is those teams of those early decades had NO CAP,something went wrong when thier stars aged,left and the players who came in could not get the job done

If this 2010 team can win the division (which will be a tough task) and get to round one of the playoffs I will consider it a successful season,anything more from there is a bonus.

 

[pabst37]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

To put Cromarties acquisition in perspective, here's Rex Ryan's comments from last year when they acquired Lito Sheppard:

"He's a great athlete with top-end speed that we look for to play that position," Ryan said of Sheppard. "We think he can match up with some of the best receivers in the game."

Read more: Jets' trade for Eagles cornerback Lito Sheppard becomes official

 

[Sciz]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Lol no it hasnt its been a quality offseason but not one of the best.

Which teams have added more than Wilfork, Bodden, TBC, Faulk, and Neal AND lost less than Burgess, Green, Hanson, Baker, and Watson?

 

[patsinthesnow]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Personally I think this team is 2 or 3 years away from being a true contender for a championship,we took steps back with some bad FA moves and too many poor draft picks the past couple of years (I know hindsight would have helped) thus I think we must be patient if we are to relive the past early decade,it will not happen overnight and unless it is 2001 all over again it probably won't happen in 2010 but the excitement of not being expected to do anything is still exciting,it may make players work harder and a good portion of this roster has never won a super bowl.

I hated being the favorite and now we are about 5th odds of winning it all,who knows, miracles can happen

Just show me a team of the decade that did not struggle in thier next decade...I can't find any in NFL history

70s Steelers - Not so good much of the 80s
80s 49ers - Not very good much of the 90s
90s Cowboys - a laughing stock after the first round of the playoffs,mediocre for much of it
2000s Patriots?....to be determined

And whats even more worrysome is those teams of those early decades had NO CAP,something went wrong when thier stars aged,left and the players who came in could not get the job done

If this 2010 team can win the division (which will be a tough task) and get to round one of the playoffs I will consider it a successful season,anything more from there is a bonus.

TBD, but I think that streak will break. Two reasons.

1. BB

2. BB knows when to move on and not be nestalgic over players. (Harrison, Bruschi, Vrabel, Harrison).

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

The lack of excitement on this board is palpable. ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
By the way one more thing... this board used to have a lot more interesting threads on a daily basis...but the homers out here have managed to try to scare away anyone with an independent opinion...and they have done a great job...look at this board it is DEAD


and I will say it in advance to those of you who will try to rip me a new one...(Please be quiet - edited)

You know it's the dreaded off season when JETS trolls take bandwidth to castigate Pats fans for a dearth of kicka$$ posts.

Off season = JETS season

been that way since '69

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

TBD, but I think that streak will break. Two reasons.

1. BB

2. BB knows when to move on and not be nestalgic over players. (Harrison, Bruschi, Vrabel, Harrison).

I think the problem lies directly in that area,When our core of championship defensive players left there was no real talent to replace them,bad draft picks and guys like AD who underperform has cost the defense some of its swagger.

Sure one can say that how the hell did BB know this guy was not going to turn out that good when we drafted him?,well he didn't know and you can't blame anyone for failed draft picks but like BB says,it is what it is.

The draft is a crap shoot and you have to be pretty good at it to keep your team in contention year after year and to build chemistry,our core of lost guys have not been replaced adequately as of yet thus I think a championship run will be delayed,a short one I hope.

 

[Kontradiction]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

I think he means the moves that the Jets have made the past few seasons.

That said, I'm sitting back pondering whether or not to run **** in this thread...

 

[muzz]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

I don't know why folks insist on using the words "added" when talking about them resigning their own.
They didn't ADD them, they kept them here, IOW no upgrade from last year.
The only guys they ADDED were Damien Lewis (why? I dunno- camp beatdown dummy maybe) and some other nobody.
I sure hope they do SOMETHING

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Which teams have added more than Wilfork, Bodden, TBC, Faulk, and Neal AND lost less than Burgess, Green, Hanson, Baker, and Watson?

Our big signings were Wilfork Bodden. If we lost TBC, Faulk and Neal we wouldnt be in any worse shape than what we are now.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Re: 5 weeks into FA season, PATS approach still makes no sense

Keeping your own players is something I think we all hoped would have happened years ago instead of seeing it in emphasis this season which to me has been a prime matter because having good players walk was slowly killing the team...even if the team tried hard to keep them,it didn't work out and more money was given elsewhere.

I think Samuel,Law,Branch and other key guys were too greedy to take the offers back then but you wonder how many more titles we could have won if it all panned out into successful negotiations with those guys without killing the cap.