My shot at predicting the Draft...

[mcgraw_wv]

After watching some Combine coverage and contemplating what BB will do in the draft, I keep coming back to Defensive Linemen. I know there is a need for WR, and RB.

But knowing a bit about how BB thinks, I believe it will be a DL.

I came to this conclusion by thinking about the longevity of positions and their value in the draft.

Most recently, everyone thought the Texans were nuts for picking Mario Willians ( I think ) over Reggie Bush. When I compare the career length of a DLinemen, versus a RB, the pick is a no brainer.

When trying to construct a NFL team, I want to focus my high draft picks on positions that have the most longevity if they work out. Why waste a high number 1 draft pick on a RB that will probably only be a stud for 4 years?

On the other side of that coin, you can spend the same amount of money and draft position to select a DLinemen, Tight End, WR, or QB which will more than likely have a 10 year career as a highly productive player on the team.

When I consider the true value of a player and position, it makes no sense to draft a RB, Safety, or Conerback high in the Draft. The amount of years a Safety is productive is typically short, RB's lose their step, as well as Corners lose their speed as well.

Whereas, you can draft a monster DLineman, and for the next 6-8 years, have a solid player that can make Safeties, and Corners better.

When I think about this, and knowing BB mastery of the game, I see why he drafts TE's so much, and Defensive Linemen, those 2 positions, other than QB, seem to have the longest careers, and they are the smartest investment when talking about investing top money in a first round pick.

Now, after Wilfork is signed, we need someone to pair with him which will equally create pressure and double teams... I want to see a stud Dlineman drafted with our first round pick, to help create pressure and stop the run.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Your point is kind of moot with regard to tight ends because both Graham and Watson appear to be gone in about 5 years each. You're not factoring free agency into the equation.

Additionally you're leaving OL out of the equation. OL tend to have long careers if they are elite players.

I do agree however that a DL would make the most sense in the first round of this year's draft, in particular a 300 lb+ Defensive End.

 

[mcgraw_wv]

Our TE's that we drafted haven't stuck with the team, but if they were good, they would have and they would have had 10 year careers.

Look around the league at the productive TE's and just about everyone of them has been around for the past 8+ years.

O-Lineman as well fit that description, but I don't think we need one, so I didn't care to mention them.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Our TE's that we drafted haven't stuck with the team, but if they were good, they would have and they would have had 10 year careers.

Look around the league at the productive TE's and just about everyone of them has been around for the past 8+ years.

O-Lineman as well fit that description, but I don't think we need one, so I didn't care to mention them.

So right now we have 3 healthy WR's and 0 TE's on the roster. Is this really a passing offense?

 

[DaBruinz]

So right now we have 3 healthy WR's and 0 TE's on the roster. Is this really a passing offense?

Ochmed - just a couple of points.

The Pats actually have 10 WRs on the roster. However, 2 of those really should be listed as special teams only players in Aiken and Slater. Moss, Patten, and Edelman are the 3 "healthy" ones you are referring to. Welker, Tate and Jenkins were all injured. And there is no telling the shape that Barnes and White are in, though I am guessing they will be in pretty good shape.

As for the TEs, we have 2 guys who aren't proven. Agnone, who is coming off an injury, but is supposedly an excellent receiver and decent blocker and Myers who is more of an H-back.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Uncanny Mock: Post Combine

 

[Since1971]

After watching some Combine coverage and contemplating what BB will do in the draft, I keep coming back to Defensive Linemen. I know there is a need for WR, and RB.

But knowing a bit about how BB thinks, I believe it will be a DL.

I came to this conclusion by thinking about the longevity of positions and their value in the draft.

Most recently, everyone thought the Texans were nuts for picking Mario Willians ( I think ) over Reggie Bush. When I compare the career length of a DLinemen, versus a RB, the pick is a no brainer.

When trying to construct a NFL team, I want to focus my high draft picks on positions that have the most longevity if they work out. Why waste a high number 1 draft pick on a RB that will probably only be a stud for 4 years?

On the other side of that coin, you can spend the same amount of money and draft position to select a DLinemen, Tight End, WR, or QB which will more than likely have a 10 year career as a highly productive player on the team.

When I consider the true value of a player and position, it makes no sense to draft a RB, Safety, or Conerback high in the Draft. The amount of years a Safety is productive is typically short, RB's lose their step, as well as Corners lose their speed as well.

Whereas, you can draft a monster DLineman, and for the next 6-8 years, have a solid player that can make Safeties, and Corners better.

When I think about this, and knowing BB mastery of the game, I see why he drafts TE's so much, and Defensive Linemen, those 2 positions, other than QB, seem to have the longest careers, and they are the smartest investment when talking about investing top money in a first round pick.

Now, after Wilfork is signed, we need someone to pair with him which will equally create pressure and double teams... I want to see a stud Dlineman drafted with our first round pick, to help create pressure and stop the run.

I agree and if my life depended on guessing our 1st pick, Odrick would be it. We'll get a receiver or TE/pass-rusher/RB in second round.

 

[BritPat]

Was talking about this elsewhere yesterday, strangely enough.

If you look at our Draft history under BB, it's normally the biggest need in the first round, then players of need after that, and value later. Rarely does he truly do value in the first round or early on.

Our biggest need is DE/OLB. I believe we will go with that in the first round, and maybe Draft a second later on. Especially seeing as Caserio (ergo BB) thinks it's one of the deepest groups this year.

After that, WR is probably the biggest need, and I think we'll take WR with the #44 pick.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Ochmed - just a couple of points.

The Pats actually have 10 WRs on the roster. However, 2 of those really should be listed as special teams only players in Aiken and Slater. Moss, Patten, and Edelman are the 3 "healthy" ones you are referring to. Welker, Tate and Jenkins were all injured. And there is no telling the shape that Barnes and White are in, though I am guessing they will be in pretty good shape.

As for the TEs, we have 2 guys who aren't proven. Agnone, who is coming off an injury, but is supposedly an excellent receiver and decent blocker and Myers who is more of an H-back.

Let me amend my earlier statement, not counting the PS, Dregs (positionless players), JAGS and washed up out of football retreads, we only have 3 HEALTHY WR and 0 TE's are the roster.

 

[dryheat44]

Was talking about this elsewhere yesterday, strangely enough.

If you look at our Draft history under BB, it's normally the biggest need in the first round, then players of need after that, and value later. Rarely does he truly do value in the first round or early on.

Our biggest need is DE/OLB. I believe we will go with that in the first round, and maybe Draft a second later on. Especially seeing as Caserio (ergo BB) thinks it's one of the deepest groups this year.

After that, WR is probably the biggest need, and I think we'll take WR with the #44 pick.

I think you start to go off-course when you talk about value and need as being two separate attributes.

I think BB always goes for best value in every pick. However, I believe that in the equation for VALUE, there is a variable called NEED buried in the algorithm. So to grossly oversimplify, a possible calculation would be:

VALUE = .50 talent + .15 upside after NFL coaching + .20 need in next 2 years + .15 character

That way, BB takes the best available value, which necessarily is slanted towards areas of need.

As Jimmie Walker used to say, That's the way I see it!

 

[tuckeverlasting]

Uncanny Mock: Post Combine

if the draft went like this i would have to smoke a cigarette for my post draft euphoria.

 

[SkinsGuru]

My 7-round mock draft

Just dropping by to post my completed 7-round mock draft. Why should you pay any attention to it? No reason other than me being a hardcore fan that spent many hours (yes, I'm single) putting it together. In the end, all mocks are hypothetical simulations of course, so I don't claim for it to be anything more than that. I included AdamJT13's famous compensatory pick projections as well. The mock draft takes into account a balance of 'best player available,' team needs, rolling draft grades from various pundits, my own opinion, as well as what we know about the tendencies of those making the war room decisions for each respective franchise.

Patriots picks

22. OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan
44. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
47. TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
53. WR Brandon LaFell, LSU
119.G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech
157.ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa
186.WR Antonio Brown, Central Michigan
225.RB Andre Anderson, Tulane
235.(proj. comp. pick) OT Casey Knips, South Dakota State
245.(proj. comp. pick) OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
246.(proj. comp. pick) C Erik Cook, New Mexico
248.(proj. comp. pick) OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian

Full draft

ROUND 1

1. Rams - QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2. Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
3. Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy, Texas
4. Redskins - OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State
5. Chiefs - OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
6. Seahawks - OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers
7. Browns - S Eric Berry, Tennessee
8. Raiders - OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland
9. Bills - QB Jimmy Clausen. Notre Dame
10.Jaguars - WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State
11.Broncos - DT Dan Williams, Tennessee
12.Dolphins - ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama
13.49ers - OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma
14.Seahawks - RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson
15.Giants - DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida
16.Titans - DE Derick Morgan, Georgia Tech
17.49ers - S Taylor Mays, USC
18.Steelers - CB Joe Haden, Florida
19.Falcons - CB Earl thomas, Texas
20.Texans - G Mike Iupati, Idaho
21.Bengals - TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
22.Patriots - OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan
23.Packers - OT Charles Brown, USC
24.Eagles - DE Everson Griffen, USC
25.Ravens - OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas
26.Cardinals - CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State
27.Cowboys - C/G Maurkice Pouncey, Florida
28.Chargers - RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
29.Jets - DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida
30.Vikings - CB Devin McCourtney, Rutgers
31.Colts - DT Brian Price, UCLA
32.Saints - OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri

ROUND 2

33.Rams - WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame
34.Lions - CB Kareem Jackson, Alabama
35.Buccaneers - DE Jerry Hughes, TCU
36.Chiefs - OLB Daryl Washington, TCU
37.Redskins - OT/G Rodger Saffold, Indiana
38.Browns - ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida
39.Raiders - DT Jared Odrick, Penn State
40.Seahawks - QB Tim Tebow, Florida
41.Bills - DT Terrance Cody, Alabama
42.Buccaneers - WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
43.Dolphins - OLB Ricky Sapp, Clemson
44.Patriots - DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
45.Broncos - CB Dominique Franks, Oklahoma
46.Giants - DT Tyson Alualu, California
47.Patriots - TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
48.Panthers - WR Damian Williams, USC
49.49ers - OLB Koa Misi, Utah
50.Chiefs - DT Cam Thomas, North Carolina
51.Texans - CB Patrick Robinson, Florida State
52.Steelers - OT Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusettes
53.Patriots - WR Brandon LaFell, LSU
54.Bengals - WR Dexter McCluster, Mississippi
55.Eagles - RB Jahvid Best, California
56.Packers - CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest
57.Ravens - TE Anothony McCoy, USC
58.Cardinals - OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina
59.Cowboys - FS Nate Allen, South Florida
60.Chargers - DT Lamarr Houston, Texas
61.Jets - RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
62.Vikings - G Jon Asamoah, Illinois
63.Colts - CB Chris Cook, Virginia
64.Saints - C Matt Tennant, Boston College

ROUND 3

65.Rams - DE Austen Lane, Murray State
66.Lions - OT Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale
67.Buccaneers - S Chad Jones, LSU
68.Chiefs - S Reshad Jones, Georgia
69.Raiders - QB Colt McCoy, Texas
70.Eagles - OLB Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
71.Browns - WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois
72.Bills - WR Taylor Price, Ohio
73.Dolphins - WR Carlton Mitchell, South Florida
74.Jaguars - S Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech
75.Bears - G John Jerry, Mississippi
76.Giants - OT Jason Fox, Miami
77.Titans - DE/OLB Jermaine Cunningham, Florida
78.Panthers - LB Sean Lee, Penn State
79.49ers - CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA)
80.Broncos - DE Alex Carrington, Arkansas State
81.Texans - RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford
82.Steelers - G Mike Johnson, Alabama
83.Falcons - WR Jacoby Ford, Clemson
84.Bengals - OLB Navorro Bowman, Penn State
85.Raiders - CB Jerome Murphy, South Florida
86.Packers - RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee
87.Eagles - G Mitch Petrus, Arkansas
88.Cardinals - TE Dennis Pitta, Brigham Young
89.Cardinals - FS Major Wright, Florida
90.Cowboys - DT Mike Neal, Purdue
91.Chargers - CB Javier Arenas, Alabama
92.Browns - QB Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
93.Vikings - S T.J. Ward, Oregon
94.Colts - OLB Jason Worilds, Virginia Tech
95.Saints - DE Greg Hardy, Mississippi
96.Titans (proj. comp. pick) - WR Mike Williams, Syracuse
97.Bengals (proj. comp. pick) - RB Joe McKnight, USC
98.Falcons (proj. comp. pick) - DE Brandon Lang, Troy

ROUND 4

99. Rams - CB Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State
100.Lions - WR Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati
101.Buccaneers - CB Kevin Thomas, USC
102.Chiefs - TE Ed ****son, Oregon
103.Redskins - CB Amari Spievey, Iowa
104.Seahawks - DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
105.Browns - TE Aaron Hernandez, Florida
106.Raiders - OLB Dekoda Watson, Florida State
107.Bills - TE Jimmy Graham, Miami
108.Jaguars - C J.D. Walton, Baylor
109.Bears - S Darrell Stuckey, Kansas
110.Dolphins - DT Torrell Troup, UCF
111.Titans - CB Syd'Quan Thompson, California
112.Panthers - TE Dorin ****erson, Pittsburgh
113.49ers - G Zane Beadles, Utah
114.Broncos - QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati
115.Giants - C Ted Larsen, North Carolina State
116.Steelers - RB Anothony Dixon, Mississippi State
117.Falcons - OLB Perry Riley, LSU
118.Texans - S Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
119.Patriots - G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech
120.Bengals - S Larry Asante, Nebraska
121.Eagles - CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA
122.Packers - DE George Selvie, South Florida
123.Cardinals - OT Selvish Capers, West Virginia
124.Jets - DE Lindsey Witten, Connecticut
125.Cowboys - OT Kyle Calloway, Iowa
126.Chargers - TE Garrett Graham, Wisconsin
127.Eagles - S Kendrick Lewis, Mississippi
128.Vikings - ILB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State
129.Colts - G Marshall Newhouse, TCU
130.Saints - DT Linval Joseph, East Carolina

ROUND 5

131.Rams - DT Jeff Owens, Georgia
132.Falcons - FB/TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State
133.Browns - RB Ben Tate, Auburn
134.Redskins - QB John Skelton, Fordham
135.Chiefs - WR Jordan Shipley, Texas
136.Browns - OT Ed Wang, Virginia Tech
137.Raiders - ILB Donald Brown, Washington
138.Seahawks - WR Eric Decker, Minnesota
139.Bills - OLB Rennie Curran, Georgia
140.Bears - WR Andre Roberts, Citadel
141.Chiefs - WR Jeremy Williams, Tulane
142.Jaguars - DE Kevin Basped, Nevada
143.Chiefs - G Ciron Black, LSU
144.49ers - WR Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas
145.Browns - CB A.J. Jefferson, Fresno State
146.Giants - TE Tony Moeaki, Iowa
147.Titans - TE Colin Peek, Alabama
148.Lions - RB James Starks, Buffalo
149.Texans - WR Riley Cooper, Florida
150.Steelers - ILB Phillip Dillard, Nebraska
151.Bengals - OLB A.J. Edds, Iowa
152.Buccaneers - QB Jonathan Crompton, Tennessee
153.Packers - S Kurt Coleman, Ohio State
154.Rams - CB Brian Jackson, Oklahoma
155.Ravens - WR Blair White, Michigan State
156.Ravens- CB Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
157.Patriots - ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa
158.Chargers - OT Sam Young, Notre Dame
159.Browns - DE Willie Young, North Carolina State
160.Vikings - QB Jarrett Brown, West Virginia
161.Colts - DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse
162.Eagles - G Shawn Lauvao, Arisona State
163.Steelers (proj. comp. pick) - WR David Gettis, Baylor
164.Falcons (proj. comp. pick) - RB LeGarrette Blount, Oregon
165.Steelers (proj. comp. pick) - DT Vince Oghobaase, Duke

 

[SkinsGuru]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

ROUND 6

166.Rams - G Shelley Smith, Colorado State
167.Falcons - OT Adam Ulatoski, Texas
168.Buccaneers - OT Chris Scott, Tennessee
169.Dolphins - S Terrell Skinner, Maryland
170.Dolphins - WR Shay Hodge, Mississippi
171.Panthers - DE C.J. Wilson, East Carolina
172.Seahawks - S Myron Rolle, Florida State
173.Browns - CB Donovan Warren, Michigan
174.Bills - C Eric Olsen, Notre Dame
175.Dolphins - QB Jevan Snead, Mississippi
176.Jaguars - DT D'Anthony Smith, Louisana Tech
177.Bears - CB Joshua Moore, Kansas State
178.49ers - DT Al Woods, LSU
179.Broncos - C John Estes, Hawaii
180.Giants - ILB Darryl Sharpton, Miami
181.Titans - WR Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
182.Browns - WR Danario Alexander, Missouri
183.Texans - RB Joique Bell, Wayne State
184.Steelers - S Nick Polk, Indiana
185.Falcons - OT Kevin Haslem, Rugers
186.Patriots - WR Antonio Brown, Central Michigan
187.Bengals - FB Rashawn Jackson, Virginia
188.Bills - OT Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky
189.Packers - OLB Arthur Moats, James Madison
190.Ravens - FS Robert Johnson, Utah
191.Cardinals - WR Marcus Easley, Connecticut
192.Cowboys - ILB Micah Johnson, Kentucky
193.Texans - DT Earl Mitchell, Arizona
194.Jets - G Chris DeGeare, Wake Forest
195.Vikings - TE Andrew Quarless, Penn State
196.Eagles - TE Nate Byham, Pittsburgh
197.Saints - OLB Kevin Conner, Clemson
198.Vikings (proj. comp. pick) - CB Walter Thurmond, Oregon
199.Packers (proj. comp. pick) - P Zoltan Mesko, Michigan
200.Panthers (proj. comp. pick) - DT Nate Collins, Virginia
201.Jaguars (proj. comp. pick) - G Chris DeGeare, Wake Forest
202.Panthers (proj. comp. pick) - QB Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
203.Dolphins (proj. comp. pick) - OT Thomas Welch, Vanderbilt

ROUND 7

204.Rams - DE Rahim Alem, LSU
205.Bills - RB Charles Scott, LSU
206.Buccaneers - CB Jamar Wall, Texas Tech
207.Redskins - RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois
208.Dolphins - WR Seyi Ajirotutu, Fresno State
209.Seahawks - DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, Washington
210.Lions - G Mike Tepper, California
211.Raiders - G Alex Parsons, USC
212.Bills - DE Jammie Kirlew, Indiana
213.Buccaneers - RB Andre Dixon, Connecticut
214.Bears - OT Chris Marinelli, Stanford
215.Dolphins - RB Lonyae Miller, Fresno State
216.Broncos - ILB Kion Wilson, South Florida
217.Giants - CB Devin Ross, Arizona
218.Titans - DT Corey Peters, Kentucky
219.Panthers - OT Drew Davis, Alabama
220.49ers - QB Mike Kafka, Northwestern
221.Steelers - OLB Simoni Lawrence, Minnesota
222.Rams - WR Emmanuel Sanders, Southern Methodist
223.Texans - DE Clifton Geathers, South Carolina
224.Bengals - DT Brandon Deaderick, Alabama
225.Patriots - RB Andre Anderson, Tulane
226.Packers - G Joe Hawley, UNLV
227.Buccaneers - OLB Adrian Tracy, William & Mary
228.Cardinals - ILB Mike McLaughlin, Boston College
229.Cowboys - K Leigh Tiffin, Alabama
230.Chargers - DE Hall Davis, LA.-Lafayette
231.Jets - DT Travis Ivey, Maryland
232.Vikings - ILB Josh Hull, Penn State
233.Colts - DE Danny Batten, South Dakota State
234.Saints - OT Will Barker, Virginia
235.Patriots (proj. comp. pick) - OT Casey Knips, South Dakota State
236.Titans (proj. comp. pick) - G Brian Simmons, Oklahoma
237.Colts (proj. comp. pick) - G Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
238.Titans (proj. comp. pick) - CB Stephan Virgil, Virginia Tech
239.Titans (proj. comp. pick) - OT Dennis Landolt, Penn State
240.Steelers (proj. comp. pick) - ILB Travis Goethel, Arizona State
241.Eagles (proj. comp. pick) - FB John Conner, Kentucky
242.Eagles (proj. comp. pick) - S Robert Vaughn, Connecticut
243.Chargers (proj. comp. pick) - WR Verran Tucker, California
244.49ers (proj. comp. pick) - RB Chris Brown, Oklahoma
245.Patriots (proj. comp. pick) - OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
246.Patriots (proj. comp. pick) - C Erik Cook, New Mexico
247.Seahawks (proj. comp. pick) - TE Michael Hoomanawanui, Illinois
248.Patriots (proj. comp. pick) - OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian
249.Raiders (proj. comp. pick) - OT J'Marcus Webb, West Texas A&M
250.Rams (proj. non-comp. pick) - OLB Roddrick Muckelroy, Texas
251.Lions (proj. non-comp. pick) - CB Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois
252.Buccaneers (proj. non-comp. pick) - WR Scott Long, Louisville
253.Chiefs (proj. non-comp. pick) - C Jeff Byers, USC
254.Redskins (proj. non-comp. pick) - S Justin Woodall, Alabama

 

[BritPat]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

Just dropping by to post my completed 7-round mock draft. Why should you pay any attention to it? No reason other than me being a hardcore fan that spent many hours (yes, I'm single) putting it together. In the end, all mocks are hypothetical simulations of course, so I don't claim for it to be anything more than that. I included AdamJT13's famous compensatory pick projections as well. The mock draft takes into account a balance of 'best player available,' team needs, rolling draft grades from various pundits, my own opinion, as well as what we know about the tendencies of those making the war room decisions for each respective franchise.

Patriots picks

22. OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan
44. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
47. TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona
53. WR Brandon LaFell, LSU
119.G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech
157.ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa
186.WR Antonio Brown, Central Michigan
225.RB Andre Anderson, Tulane
235.(proj. comp. pick) OT Casey Knips, South Dakota State
245.(proj. comp. pick) OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
246.(proj. comp. pick) C Erik Cook, New Mexico
248.(proj. comp. pick) OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian

Welcome and thanks for the Draft.

Some thoughts on it from our POV?

Starts well, very well, in fact I'd be delighted with those two picks. The rest though - meh.

We don't use TE's in the passing game enough to warrant a high pick on one.

LaFell is a bust waiting to happen. Unathletic, slow, terrible hands. A typical LSU receiver.

Carter is not a fit for our O-line. We draft mobile, athletic guys, not maulers. He's a Dallas type.

Angerer is a 4-3 MLB only for me (and we already have one of those). Don't see a fit in the 3-4 at all either.

Brown - happy with that, been pushing his name since the turn of the New Year. Would be happy with his buddy Bryan Anderson too.

Anderson is good value down there I suppose. Would rather a Joique Bell or Deji Karim though.

Don't see Washington making it to the 7th round (same for Dexter Davis, I think he could be a raiders shock target higher). In fact I think someone will gamble on him in the third or fourth round. Would be happy with that though, he's an *******, but a very very talented *******.

Overall very impressed although I'd question some of your values (Scott Long, Seyi Ajirotutu, Emmanuel Sanders, Daniel Te'o-Nesheim etc not being picked until the 7th round, Danario Alexander and others in the 6th round).

Still, well done

 

[dryheat44]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

Welcome and thanks for the Draft.

Some thoughts on it from our POV?

Starts well, very well, in fact I'd be delighted with those two picks. The rest though - meh.

We don't use TE's in the passing game enough to warrant a high pick on one.

LaFell is a bust waiting to happen. Unathletic, slow, terrible hands. A typical LSU receiver.

Carter is not a fit for our O-line. We draft mobile, athletic guys, not maulers. He's a Dallas type.

Angerer is a 4-3 MLB only for me (and we already have one of those). Don't see a fit in the 3-4 at all either.

Yeah, what he said. First of all, as someone who does a 7-round mock every year, kudos on the effort. From your screen name though, I'm guessing you're a Skins fan, and not so much with the Patriots. Lafell, Angerer, and Carter just don't fit what we do here. I think we'd all pretty much be shocked. Seems early for Wooten too.

Going by the rest of your board, I think a plausible Pats draft, assuming no trades, might start:

22. DE Jared Odrick
45. WR Arrelious Benn
47. OLB Koa Misi
53. RB Ben Tate
119. TE Tony Moeaki
157. DE Arthur Jones
186. LB Te'o-Neisham
225. OT Will Barker....

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

Don't see Washington making it to the 7th round (same for Dexter Davis, I think he could be a raiders shock target higher).

I think the recent revelations of the incident when he was 16 may cause some teams to think twice which may cause him to go lower in the draft.....

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

An interesting effort, thanks for sharing.

Patriots picks

22. OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan -- I count about 6 teams who are likely to see Graham as a better fit for what they do before NE picks - and Belichick hasn't shown any desire to draft major conversion projects in the first round.
44. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern
47. TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona -- The kid is coming off major medical and hasn't played football in over a year, while Belichick will gamble more in the second, he prefers to wait a round for medical projects.
53. WR Brandon LaFell, LSU -- If he slides this far I can see him.
119.G Brandon Carter, Texas Tech -- As others have said, he's a phone booth fighter and not an open field greyhound, which means he's not a fit for NE.
157.ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa -- I can see this pick, it's not a sexy pick, but the guy is getting compared to Zach Thomas, which begs the question of whether he can make himself skinny to sidestep blockers and meet the ball carrier in the hole? If he can do that like Zach could, he's gold.
186.WR Antonio Brown, Central Michigan
225.RB Andre Anderson, Tulane
235.(proj. comp. pick) OT Casey Knips, South Dakota State
245.(proj. comp. pick) OLB Dexter Davis, Arizona State
246.(proj. comp. pick) C Erik Cook, New Mexico
248.(proj. comp. pick) OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian

No real issue with any of the other picks, you may wish to reconsider assigning NE only the one Defensive Lineman - in a deep draft for DL it stands to reason a man who appreciates his DL the way Bill Belichick does will find a way to take more then one.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: My 7-round mock draft

I think the recent revelations of the incident when he was 16 may cause some teams to think twice which may cause him to go lower in the draft.....

That's a tough one to project.

-- The kid has some real talent for LT.
-- Any team that takes him will have a major travel nightmare to jump through all the legal hoops necessary to permit him to travel with the team.
-- There will likely be a special security detail needed to accompany him when traveling, for his protection and to ease the concerns of local authorities.
-- He's been through two serious threat analysis/background checks for the two college programs he's played in, both appear to have been very thorough and found him to be a low risk. Both college programs are part of a Church-centered education program where a young man with his background has the chance to receive a solid foundation for their rehabilitation.

Based on the article, it appears he came from a dysfunctional family background, the kind of nasty home situation where children get truly messed up. (I have to wonder if his sister was ever registered as a sex offender?) There seems to have been an effort to get this kid straightened out and from the article he seems to have made an effort to help himself within the support structure created for him.

For his sake I hope he is drafted or signed by a team like NE which has the team culture to support and encourage his continued rehabilitation. If he should wind up in a place like Oakland or Cincinnati...poor bastitch.

 

[larryo]

Does the Raider pick for next year come into play at all? Does anyone think they may wait in the first on the d line this year and grab the best stud available with at least a top 15 next year?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Does the Raider pick for next year come into play at all? Does anyone think they may wait in the first on the d line this year and grab the best stud available with at least a top 15 next year?

I very much doubt NE uses that pick for trade this year. It's my opinion that 2011's draft class is very poor and gets thin fast once you get out of the first round projections - and that's with the juniors declaring early. 2011 has the potential to be another 2007 draft class, which is why I want NE to retain it's Oakland pick for a shot at quality talent in the top 15, but would be interested in using any of the other 2011 picks to bundle with this draft's picks in an effort to move around and draft the 2010 players they want the most.

We also have to think in terms of 2012 - unless there is a new CBA, or the owners put alternative planning into play, there is no 2012 draft.