McClain Dropping?

[BillBelichickFan79]

The linemen stunt sometimes, which can be effective, also the OLB blitz and the ILB blitzes sometimes....safety blitzes....the main thing is to not allow the run with a huge 4-3.

A lot of the complaints about the Pats D is that is too much about controoling the LOS and not enough about getting penetration and heat on the QB. It's more of a pass happy league now so I don't really think this would work all that well. If we were going to 4-3 I'd rather go with a Jim Johnson-esque defense, even though that's unlikely.

I'd rather stay with the 3-4 anyway, as it is BB's expertise and gives you more versatility in blitz packages.

 

[Coach42]

What is going to make an impact on our D a SILB or an OLB? I don't want McClain at 22. SILB's main job is too engage guards do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a guy that just bangs heads?? Couldn't we do that with a later pick?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

What is going to make an impact on our D a SILB or an OLB? I don't want McClain at 22. SILB's main job is too engage guards do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a guy that just bangs heads?? Couldn't we do that with a later pick?

Amen. You still up in the hills?

 

[TriplecHamp]

What is going to make an impact on our D a SILB or an OLB? I don't want McClain at 22. SILB's main job is too engage guards do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a guy that just bangs heads?? Couldn't we do that with a later pick?

With three second round picks and an abundance of Rush OLB in a draft deprived of ILB, you wouldnt take the best LB in this draft one who played under Nick Saban non the less for a conversion prospect...Really!? And Im pretty sure Bruschi made just as much of an impact during his prime in our D as any OLB weve had.

 

[VJCPatriot]

What is going to make an impact on our D a SILB or an OLB? I don't want McClain at 22. SILB's main job is too engage guards do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a guy that just bangs heads?? Couldn't we do that with a later pick?

I think McClain will be way more than just a run stuffer for this team. Did you see him play for Alabama??

He is a leader, he is a field general, he is fierce, and he has heart. He doesn't make fundamental mistakes in the tackling game. These are all things this Pats D need. Mayo doesn't have the personality to be a leader yet. But I could see McClain doing it from Day 1. How many other draft prospects can you say that about?

 

[tanked_as_usual]

well.....unless, bruschi ran 4.5's in his prime, I'd bet 4.7 is not a problem

 

[BlackFrancis]

I've seen Rolando McClain run a ton in the SEC over the past couple years and if he runs a 4.5 in the combine, I will eat a pair of dirty socks. I'm guessing he'll time close to the way he plays - slow. 4.75 to 4.85.

The NFL Combine this year will destroy the legend of Rolando McClain.

 

[patriotscpfc]

With three second round picks and an abundance of Rush OLB in a draft deprived of ILB, you wouldnt take the best LB in this draft one who played under Nick Saban non the less for a conversion prospect...Really!? And Im pretty sure Bruschi made just as much of an impact during his prime in our D as any OLB weve had.

Bruschi didn't have Mayo who was also a first round pick next to him.

 

[patsfan-1982]

What is going to make an impact on our D a SILB or an OLB? I don't want McClain at 22. SILB's main job is too engage guards do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a guy that just bangs heads?? Couldn't we do that with a later pick?

yes i would want him cause if he realy is great at takeing on blocks then he turns mayo, in to a 150 tackel LB and take the pats run defense from 13th to top 5 and that would also make the pass rush better cause teams would all ways be in 3rd and long.

 

[patriotscpfc]

yes i would want him cause if he realy is great at takeing on blocks then he turns mayo, in to a 150 tackel LB and take the pats run defense from 13th to top 5 and that would also make the pass rush better cause teams would all ways be in 3rd and long.

People would just throw all over us again.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Who cares about his Combine 40 times? It's meaningless for a ILB, unless it's way off the range. His quickness and read and react is much more important.

If he drops to #17 I'd trade up and get him. If we can't get him then I'd target Spikes. Either one would help Mayo out and they are the only 2 ILB's in this draft that I'd target in the first 2 rounds. Guyton has the speed to move to an OLB position.

To me there are several coin flip rush OLB's that we can pick up in the 2nd round. It looks like Hughes will be there in the 2nd as things look now.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Bruschi didn't have Mayo who was also a first round pick next to him.

So you can have only one playmaking ILB, okay got you.

People would just throw all over us again.

Just like Joe Flacco did right?

 

[Seneschal2]

I think McClain will be way more than just a run stuffer for this team. Did you see him play for Alabama??

He is a leader, he is a field general, he is fierce, and he has heart. He doesn't make fundamental mistakes in the tackling game. These are all things this Pats D need. Mayo doesn't have the personality to be a leader yet. But I could see McClain doing it from Day 1. How many other draft prospects can you say that about?

Entry for post of the year. :rocker:

 

[Ochmed Jones]

yes i would want him cause if he realy is great at takeing on blocks then he turns mayo, in to a 150 tackel LB and take the pats run defense from 13th to top 5 and that would also make the pass rush better cause teams would all ways be in 3rd and long.

McClain is very capable at taking on O linemen and blowing them up, but the reality is that because of Mt. Cody he did not have to do it a lot. I think that as teams watch more tape on McClain they will have to wonder how much of what they see will translate to the NFL, if McClain has to deal with more trash than he did in college.

If you want to improve the Patriots run defense, then draft Mt. Cody. Period. He can't be moved off the LOS and for a man his size, he has good lateral movement.

 

[CGH TX PATS]

Just a few weeks ago this guy was a 'cant miss prospect' now he's falling out of the first round? This is why I hate that everyone (myself included) does a mock draft. McClain owned the SEC and Texas in the championship game. He won't slip pass #15 in the draft. The tape doesn't lie, and these work outs do... remember Vernon Gholston?

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Just a few weeks ago this guy was a 'cant miss prospect' now he's falling out of the first round? This is why I hate that everyone (myself included) does a mock draft. McClain owned the SEC and Texas in the championship game. He won't slip pass #15 in the draft. The tape doesn't lie, and these work outs do... remember Vernon Gholston?

I never said he was falling out of the first round, just the opposite. I think that if he runs under 4.6 at the combine, he will be a top 5 pick.

And while the tape does not lie, it must be noted that when you watch the tape,you have to ask yourself where is the opposing team's Oline. Is the opposing teams O line doubling the Deaderick's or Washington's of the Alabama defense? No way Can anybody on this board name the two starting OLB's for Alabama? Let alone tell me if either is worthy of a double team? No way, because those guys contributed little.

The reason Alabama's defense was number 1 in the nation is because teams could not run on them with Mt. Cody clogging up the A and B gaps, which allowed McClain to roam freely sideline to sideline. Only with Mt. Cody at the nose, does a guy like Hightower look good enough for people to talk about drafting him next season.

Bottom line is McClain is a stud ILB in OUR defense, but he benefited GREATLY by playing behind Mt. Cody. And if I was a Miami or Denver, I have to wonder how he fits their defense after being molded to perfectly fit OUR defense.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

I never said he was falling out of the first round, just the opposite. I think that if he runs under 4.6 at the combine, he will be a top 5 pick.

And while the tape does not lie, it must be noted that when you watch the tape,you have to ask yourself where is the opposing team's Oline. Is the opposing teams O line doubling the Deaderick's or Washington's of the Alabama defense? No way Can anybody on this board name the two starting OLB's for Alabama? Let alone tell me if either is worthy of a double team? No way, because those guys contributed little.

The reason Alabama's defense was number 1 in the nation is because teams could not run on them with Mt. Cody clogging up the A and B gaps, which allowed McClain to roam freely sideline to sideline. Only with Mt. Cody at the nose, does a guy like Hightower look good enough for people to talk about drafting him next season.

Bottom line is McClain is a stud ILB in OUR defense, but he benefited GREATLY by playing behind Mt. Cody. And if I was a Miami or Denver, I have to wonder how he fits their defense after being molded to perfectly fit OUR defense.

I keep pondering your suggestion, there's a lot of merit with Cody. Deadrick would be a good later round option for DL depth too. And I still like Jay Ross with his lowly 7th round projection. As DL goes, this class is a glut on the market.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I keep pondering your suggestion, there's a lot of merit with Cody. Deadrick would be a good later round option for DL depth too. And I still like Jay Ross with his lowly 7th round projection. As DL goes, this class is a glut on the market.

I agree Deaderick or Washington could be good as late round players with experience in our defense and they would be much better fits than Pryor or Richard.

The bottom line is watch the McClain highlight reel posted on Boston.com. Watch how much attention Cody gets from the OLine and watch how freely McClain roams with little or no garbage to sift through.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

I agree Deaderick or Washington could be good as late round players with experience in our defense and they would be much better fits than Pryor or Richard.

The bottom line is watch the McClain highlight reel posted on Boston.com. Watch how much attention Cody gets from the OLine and watch how freely McClain roams with little or no garbage to sift through.

I saw it in the BCS game, Cody or Deadrick just sucked up blockers like black holes. If anything, it lowered my opinion of McClain.

 

[TriplecHamp]

I never said he was falling out of the first round, just the opposite. I think that if he runs under 4.6 at the combine, he will be a top 5 pick.

And while the tape does not lie, it must be noted that when you watch the tape,you have to ask yourself where is the opposing team's Oline. Is the opposing teams O line doubling the Deaderick's or Washington's of the Alabama defense? No way Can anybody on this board name the two starting OLB's for Alabama? Let alone tell me if either is worthy of a double team? No way, because those guys contributed little.

The reason Alabama's defense was number 1 in the nation is because teams could not run on them with Mt. Cody clogging up the A and B gaps, which allowed McClain to roam freely sideline to sideline. Only with Mt. Cody at the nose, does a guy like Hightower look good enough for people to talk about drafting him next season.

Bottom line is McClain is a stud ILB in OUR defense, but he benefited GREATLY by playing behind Mt. Cody. And if I was a Miami or Denver, I have to wonder how he fits their defense after being molded to perfectly fit OUR defense.

Cody Reamer and....ahhh I cant remember and I dont want to cheat....any help?