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The 2009 draft was pivotal for this football team this season, especially with the retirements of Tedy Bruschi and Rodney Harrison and the aging of Mike Vrabel on defense.

Belichick and his crew hit the books hard.

They crammed and reviewed.

They stockpiled picks and trade assets - most notably Matt Cassel.

Then April came around, and the Patriots froze.

Did they actually refuse the No. 2 pick overall for Cassel, settling on a second-rounder? Did they really deem it prudent to ignore linebackers like James Laurinaitis, Clay Matthews and Rey Maualuga repeatedly as they dealt their way back into the second round?

In the end, I will weigh the 2009 draft in one simple equation. Do Pat Chung, Darius Butler, Ron Brace and Sebastian Vollmer come anywhere close to the potential impact Maualuga and Matthews might have had?

Vollmer is big, strong and athletic, oozing potential. He was also the fifth wheel on an offensive line yesterday that couldn't run the football with only six Ravens in the box and couldn't keep Brady upright and in the pocket against a four-man rush.

The rest? Chung and Butler couldn't crack into a feeble secondary, while Brace spent half the season as an inactive, registering six solo tackles for the year.

The personnel hemorrhaging never ended.

Belichick threw his free agent money to Fred Taylor (269 rushing yards), Shawn Springs (four healthy scratches) and Joey Galloway (axed in Week 7).

He traded for Greg Lewis, who caught eight balls this year — all for the Vikings — after he couldn't make the roster out of training camp.

New England handed Mike Vrabel to the Chiefs and then boa(Please be quiet - edited)lly jettisoned Richard Seymour to the Raiders, a week before the season.

Anyone happen to notice where the Ravens did their business yesterday?

Right between the tackle-guard gap on the defensive right where Seymour carved out five Pro Bowl nominations in eight years.
 
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Hector Longo article? REALLY?

Ron Borges writes more objectively about BB and the Pats than Longo does.
 
Stop being such homers people. That article is all true. As soon as a negative is written the first thing people do on this site is discredit the writer. People on this site look like bigger homers by the day.
 
Junior played what, a dozen or so plays this year? Give me a break. Longo is a poor man's Borges, and believe me that is not meant to be a compliment.
 
Why would anyone care about what Trevor Pryce thinks?
 
Stop being such homers people. That article is all true. As soon as a negative is written the first thing people do on this site is discredit the writer. People on this site look like bigger homers by the day.

It is? He writes that a guy saying Junior Seau is the Pats best defensive player has a point. That is just plain stupid.
 
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Stop being such homers people. That article is all true.
If you want to believe that, great. There is no evidence that KC offered the #2 pick overall for Cassell. And how Pryce could determine Seau was the best player from watching when Seau barely played all year is interesting.
 
Reiss addressed this in his chat this week. He ask the most obvious question: Why would Pryce be watching defensive film of the Patriots?

Chat: Chat with Mike Reiss - SportsNation - ESPN Boston

Steve (Waterbury, CT)

Trevor Price said that, based on his film study, Junior Seau was the Patriots' best defender. To me, this is a huge indictment of Jerod Mayo's performance this year. What do you honestly think about his potential going forward? Can he return to the level of play he displayed during his rookie year? Or has he hit his ceiling?

Mike Reiss (12:14 PM)

I've got to take Pryce to task for that comment, Steve. Seau was on the field for about 12 percent of the snaps, so that is ridiculous statement to me. Also, he obviously didn't watch film of Vince Wilfork or Warren, two very good players. I'm surprised that Pryce, who normally would be watching offensive film, would make such a claim. I don't buy it all. As for Mayo, he took a step back this year, according to Tedy Bruschi (who better to analyze that?). I still think he can be a productive, impact player going forward. It's about putting some more pieces around him now in my view.
 
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Stop being such homers people. That article is all true. As soon as a negative is written the first thing people do on this site is discredit the writer. People on this site look like bigger homers by the day.
I bet you believe in tooth fairies as well...Longo is a hack at best..and as was said a poor man's Borges.. He writes all kind of trash and some actually gets mentioned when it hits rock bottom garbage time..And we have trolls as well...Homers?? I would rather be a homer than an idiot...
 
Nothing to see here folks...
 
Trevor Pryce, saying that Seau, is the pats best player on D is just hes way of say the pats suck no one hates the pats more then the ravens so i don't realy care what he has to say


but the rest is pretty much spot on. there was no reason to just throw in mike vrabel, in with the cassel, deal. i know he would have played better then burgess, and they would not have give up a 3rd round pick for a guy that oakland was going to cut any ways


the seymour trade was the biggest WTF move i ever seen.


tradeing out of the frist round and not takeing any of the LB's was just crazy.


as far as saying mayo had such a bad season is not ture


Jerod Mayo, 2008. 128 tackes 0 sacks 0 INT's played all 16 games won DROY


Jerod Mayo, 2009. 103 tackels 1.5 sacks 0 INT's played in 13 games


thats only 25 less tackels with 1.5 more sacks will playing in 3 less games. thats not a real big drop off i just think he was a lil over rated. peopel where calling him the next rey lewis, and the next patrick willis, and he is not

he was the best defensive player in the 2008 draft but if he came out this year he would not even be in the top 10 for DROY


mayo, will be a ILB who gets a 100 to 120 tackel maybe a sack or two and maybe a INT a year for the next 10 years and thats realy good. it's just not rey lewis, and thats what ever one wants him to be and he is not
 
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If you want to believe that, great. There is no evidence that KC offered the #2 pick overall for Cassell. And how Pryce could determine Seau was the best player from watching when Seau barely played all year is interesting.

If Pioli was stupid enough to even offer a top-five pick for Cassel (as much as I like MFC), the Hunts should have fired him on the spot.
 
Stop being such homers people. That article is all true. As soon as a negative is written the first thing people do on this site is discredit the writer. People on this site look like bigger homers by the day.

Butler certainly did 'crack' the secondary, and while Chung wasn't brilliant as a rookie, he was fine. The last draft isn't why we fell short this season. It's a combination of the drafting between 04 and 09 and not retaining some of our players.

The only pick that I would certainly want back is Brace. The guy also fails to mention Ingram and Edelman. Ingram is more valuable than anyone seems to realize.
 
I wasnt talking about the seau comments, i was talking about the offseason moves. Yes trading picks for alex smith and greg lewis was a waste. David thomas could have produced what baker gave us for less money. Why was taylor's roster spot wasted all year only to sit him in the playoffs. Springs was barely seen until the end of the year, joey galloway was a waste. Ron brace who they traded up for was inactive most of the year. Some people fail to see anything wrong with the team and its tough to take your opinions seriously. Wow we won a division whose other qb's include sanchez, henne, and fitzpatrick. Sorry im honest about my team and see the mistakes and flaws and i dont get all upset acting as if the media are the real ones to blame.
 
Jerod Mayo, 2008. 128 tackes 0 sacks 0 INT's played all 16 games won DROY


Jerod Mayo, 2009. 103 tackels 1.5 sacks 0 INT's played in 13 games

I wonder what the average gain on those tackles was for both years. I'm not saying this in a negative light but the knock from the critics has been his tackles are always at least 5 yards down field. If would also be interesting to see if there was a drop off in this average from 08 to 09.

He did look awful against the Ravens.
 
INgram? How many really bad LS are there. There pretty much all the same and stats prove it. Not as bad as people who use willie andrews as a good draft pick to argue the draft success in recent years.
 
I think the Trevor Pryce statement was in there for shock value.

But the rest of the article has some solid points, whether people want to admit it or not.
 
Willie Andrews was a fine draft pick, were it not for his "extracurricular activities."

I think Brace will end up developing into a solid player, but we'll have to wait and see on that.
 
David thomas could have produced what baker gave us for less money.

David Thomas was not exactly renowned for his blocking ability.

That said, I think we should have kept him.
 
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