Can this team change it's offensive identity?

[RobertWeathers]

What we do need to do is to execute the offense in the second half, especially the fourth quarter.

IMO this is the numero uno thing that the team needs to do. They'll score some points. They'll make some stops. BB will manage the game in the 1st 1/2.

The 2nd 1/2 D can improve too, but I'd point to the O as the root cause for the 2nd 1/2 failures.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

The offensive "identity" wont' change. Edelman will be expected to do his job, which was previously Wes' job and the gameplans and playcalls will continue to be made based on the opposing defense. They wont run if the defense is stacking the box and they won't force the pass if they defense is dropping everyone back.

And it's not like the spread is new since Moss/Welker got here.



Moss has been double teamed every single game for most of his career. No matter what you want to say, Moss being on the field will be a big factor. I fully expect him to make plays, even the best defenses don't contain Moss over the longterm. His "bad" games this year came in games where Brady missed signficant practice time and was running plays for the FIRST time during the actual game, along with other things. Defenses have to do all they can do just to keep Moss' numbers human, but he'll still produce.

And this ridiculous assertion that Brady only looks for 2 guys has got to stop. Losing Welker is not GOOD for the team, although I think the team can overcome it. There is no "blessing in disguise" here, I'm sorry. But just look at Welker's production. Look at Brady's production, even with all the injuries and the toughest pass defense schedule in a couple of decades etc...

The playoffs from the 2007 season said hi

Moss was stopped cold in those 3 games once playoff teams blanketed him into being nothing more than a decoy...How can you say otherwise?...3 games with less than 100 yards receiving means those teams took him completely out of the game and I expect the same this year unless he gets around defensive plans to stop him to which the Jags,Chargers and Giants did 2 years ago...the other receivers WILL have to be the difference makers IMO and that is a no brainer IMO

 

[emoney_33]

The playoffs from the 2007 season said hi

Moss was stopped cold in those 3 games once playoff teams blanketed him into being nothing more than a decoy...How can you say otherwise?...3 games with less than 100 yards receiving means those teams took him completely out of the game and I expect the same this year unless he gets around defensive plans to stop him to which the Jags,Chargers and Giants did 2 years ago...the other receivers WILL have to be the difference makers IMO and that is a no brainer IMO

Did you really just say that??

Bah forget it, you will never understand.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Did you really just say that??

Bah forget it, you will never understand.

So you are telling me that Randy Moss was a factor in the 2007/08 playoffs?

I have no idea what team you were watching in January of 2008,but it was not the Patriots

You being one of the most famous homers on this board would always think the other way regardless of what the numbers say,you'll find some BS to throw out anyway to make believe he was ...

 

[chevss454]

The playoffs from the 2007 season said hi

Moss was stopped cold in those 3 games once playoff teams blanketed him into being nothing more than a decoy...How can you say otherwise?...3 games with less than 100 yards receiving means those teams took him completely out of the game and I expect the same this year unless he gets around defensive plans to stop him to which the Jags,Chargers and Giants did 2 years ago...the other receivers WILL have to be the difference makers IMO and that is a no brainer IMO

Too bad Charlie Weis isnt coming back. He could devise something to get the ball to Moss; maybe more underneath routes or back shoulder fades. Looks like he is talking to KC. opcorn:

Weis taking over Kansas City offense? - Sports Rumors - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports

 

[mgteich]

I strongly agree.

I would note that if either the defense or the offense executed like playoff quality units in the second half, we would have more wins and a bye.

The reason the offense is the root cause is that the offense is supposed to be a top 5 offense, not the JAG offense that it has been in the 2nd hald of crucial games. No one has suggested that we have a top defense, akthough they have done very well indeed (see points allowed).

IMO this is the numero uno thing that the team needs to do. They'll score some points. They'll make some stops. BB will manage the game in the 1st 1/2.

The 2nd 1/2 D can improve too, but I'd point to the O as the root cause for the 2nd 1/2 failures.

 

[emoney_33]

So you are telling me that Randy Moss was a factor in the 2007/08 playoffs?

I have no idea what team you were watching in January of 2008,but it was not the Patriots

You being one of the most famous homers on this board would always think the other way regardless of what the numbers say,you'll find some BS to throw out anyway to make believe he was ...

It's simple: If Moss was not on the field in the playoffs, would that have hurt or helped the Patriots?

Just answer that in your opinion, help or hurt.

And btw he (should have) had the game winning TD in the superbowl!

 

[emoney_33]

So you are telling me that Randy Moss was a factor in the 2007/08 playoffs?

I have no idea what team you were watching in January of 2008,but it was not the Patriots

You being one of the most famous homers on this board would always think the other way regardless of what the numbers say,you'll find some BS to throw out anyway to make believe he was ...

Also please note that you said the #1 WR in a game where Brady had a 92% completion % and Maroney ran for 100+ yards wasn't a factor... yea you aren't a clueless Moss hater