Interesting fact IF we go to Indy in the playoffs...

[supafly]

For those who think we generally have trouble in the dome:

In New England's last 18 games played AT Indy, they are an incredible 15-2-1 against the pointspread, with the tie coming as 4 point favorites in 2007.

I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close.

I also think that Lucas Oil Stadium, or the 'LOSer dome' as we call it, does not provide the kind of home field advantage that the much louder RCA dome gave them.

Just thought I'd throw out a bit of holiday optimism.

 

[Schmo]

For those who think we generally have trouble in the dome:

In New England's last 18 games played AT Indy, they are an incredible 15-2-1 against the pointspread, with the tie coming as 4 point favorites in 2007.

I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close.

I also think that Lucas Oil Stadium, or the 'LOSer dome' as we call it, does not provide the kind of home field advantage that the much louder RCA dome gave them.

Just thought I'd throw out a bit of holiday optimism.

Despite the criticism for the 4th quarter collapse and playcalling, the game against them earlier in the year is more than enough reason to be optimistic.

 

[SVN]

right now i dont want to be thinking/jinxing anything when we have not even clinched anything yet. last two weeks have been sub par .We need to beat the jags.

 

[Patjew]

I don't think I'd feel comfortable during this game with anything less than a triple-figure lead.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

I don't think I'd feel comfortable during this game with anything less than a triple-figure lead with less than a minute to go and the ball in Tom Brady's hands.

Fixed it for you....

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don't think I'd feel comfortable during this game with anything less than a triple-figure lead.

x2. No question.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

If we actually play Defense for 4 quarters in that game it's not even close.

 

[mosi]

I have no desire to go to Indy. Indy owns us. Most teams will fold with a 2-3 touchdown lead. Not Indy, they know they can beat us even when down by 2-3 touchdowns.

With that said, I just watched the Indy game again. TBC went down early in the game and I think that hurt us alot.

This Indy game was just like the 1984 game in Denver.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Another fact in these Indy games:

Everytime Indy takes the miraculous lead, there is like 30 seconds on the clock. Maybe once brady can have 1:30+ left on the clock and see what happens.

 

[letekro]

Another fact in these Indy games:

Everytime Indy takes the miraculous lead, there is like 30 seconds on the clock. Maybe once brady can have 1:30+ left on the clock and see what happens.

...should just let them score next time.

 

[BionicPatriot]

I'm not one to think the refs "beat teams" but...Just wait. If the Pats go there that timely huge, costly, scoring producing PI call will arrive at some point, just watch.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I don't think I'd feel comfortable during this game with anything less than a triple-figure lead.

and only then after the two minute warning.

Happy Chanukah, PJ! Hope you found some Dreidel in China!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

For those who think we generally have trouble in the dome:

In New England's last 18 games played AT Indy, they are an incredible 15-2-1 against the pointspread, with the tie coming as 4 point favorites in 2007.

I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close.

I also think that Lucas Oil Stadium, or the 'LOSer dome' as we call it, does not provide the kind of home field advantage that the much louder RCA dome gave them.

Just thought I'd throw out a bit of holiday optimism.

Whew, that does make me feel a lot better. What was the spread in November for Indy, three points? Hey, we beat it. Man, I'm relieved.

But, first can we just get to the Playoffs? And maybe build something like "mo-men-tum" by beating Jacksonville soundly and playing like we mean it for a half against Houston?

 

[Ryan]

I'm not one to think the refs "beat teams" but...Just wait. If the Pats go there that timely huge, costly, scoring producing PI call will arrive at some point, just watch.

Yep, that's exactly my fear as well. As much as I'd love to go into Indy and beat them in the playoffs, I'd honestly rather just avoid them completely. The refs come into play far too much in any Colts game for my liking.

 

[Rob0729]

I don't think I'd feel comfortable during this game with anything less than a triple-figure lead.

Triple figure?!? After the way the Pats lost this year and in the AFC Championships several years ago on Indy, I would be worried that if the Pats scored infinity points that the Colts would figure out a way to score infinity plus one points.

 

[TruthSeeker]

For those who think we generally have trouble in the dome:

In New England's last 18 games played AT Indy, they are an incredible 15-2-1 against the pointspread, with the tie coming as 4 point favorites in 2007.

I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close.

I also think that Lucas Oil Stadium, or the 'LOSer dome' as we call it, does not provide the kind of home field advantage that the much louder RCA dome gave them.

Just thought I'd throw out a bit of holiday optimism.

I occasionally hear someone claim that what really matters in the NFL is how a team does against the point spread. I'm always tempted to ask who the top 3 and bottom 3 teams are against the point spread for the year since I really doubt the person knows - which shows just how important the point spread really is.

Point spread wins are nice, but they don't get you to the next round of the playoffs (or even into the playoffs) if the other team scored more actual points. That's what I care about.

All that being said, this is a very interesting stat; thanks for bringing it up.

 

[TheComeback]

I have no desire to go to Indy. Indy owns us. Most teams will fold with a 2-3 touchdown lead. Not Indy, they know they can beat us even when down by 2-3 touchdowns. With that said, I just watched the Indy game again. TBC went down early in the game and I think that hurt us alot. This Indy game was just like the 1984 game in Denver.

Indy doesnt own us. I`m not afraid of the Colts. They`ve had homefield advantage in recent years and two of their victories have been miracles where everything just happened to go the way they needed it to. Their D is nothing to be afraid of. As far as Im concerned Peyton is the entire team and the only reason theyre 14-0 is their schedule. We are the best team theyve played all year. You are right, Banta-Cain went down early in the game and Ninkovich left a few plays later. Jarvis Green was out for that game and I believe Pryor was as well. I remember thinking "they better have a substantial lead in the 4th quarter because these guys aren`t going to get rest. I think the lack of pass rush was a significant problem for our D at the end of the game, because we had gotten good pressure on Peyton until that point.

 

[supafly]

Whew, that does make me feel a lot better. What was the spread in November for Indy, three points? Hey, we beat it. Man, I'm relieved.

Yeah, umm, apparently you missed the entire point of the thread--AND failed to read and understand the 3rd paragraph which states :

"I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close."

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I have been hearing a lot of doom and gloom lately about how we get 'owned' in Indy, and apparently, it's not even close to true.

If we have covered an often close point spread in the last 18 trips there, which equaled many straight up victories, and very close losses, then...

What exactly does that tell you??? It tells me that we either win outright, or play the game damn close. Therefore, this trend is actually very promising, not to mention quite surprising too.

And yes, many people would indeed be relieved to hear such a promising trend, if you're not then you're certainly in the minority.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Yeah, umm, apparently you missed the entire point of the thread--AND failed to read and understand the 3rd paragraph which states :

"I know the pointspread win certainly does not equal a playoff win, but generally the NE/IND spreads are pretty low, due to the equality of the teams. This points to us at least being able to play them tough, and keep the game very close."

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I have been hearing a lot of doom and gloom lately about how we get 'owned' in Indy, and apparently, it's not even close to true.

If we have covered an often close point spread in the last 18 trips there, which equaled many straight up victories, and very close losses, then...

What exactly does that tell you??? It tells me that we either win outright, or play the game damn close. Therefore, this trend is actually very promising, not to mention quite surprising too.

And yes, many people would indeed be relieved to hear such a promising trend, if you're not then you're certainly in the minority.

i did read the whole post and i do know we play indy tough. i think every patriots fan (make that "football fan") knows that full well; it's why the game is always played on a sunday or monday night for season high Nielsen ratings.

problem is, i don't know what "promising" trend you're talking about since over the last five years (since 2005), we're 1--5 against them, including two memorable fourth quarter cough ups in the 2006 AFCCG and this year. sure the games are usually close (except for 05), but that's what you expect with two great teams.

to me the trend is anything but "promising" when contrasted with the first half of the decade when our record against them was the mirror opposite at 5--1 and we more or less owned them. that's not to say i don't think we won't beat them in the playoffs, just that the recent trendline definitely gives little comfort.

if, as you suggest, I am in the minority on this one, which I doubt, i'm comfortable being there. Merry Christmas anyway.

 

[mosi]

Indy doesnt own us. I`m not afraid of the Colts. They`ve had homefield advantage in recent years and two of their victories have been miracles where everything just happened to go the way they needed it to. Their D is nothing to be afraid of. As far as Im concerned Peyton is the entire team and the only reason theyre 14-0 is their schedule. We are the best team theyve played all year. You are right, Banta-Cain went down early in the game and Ninkovich left a few plays later. Jarvis Green was out for that game and I believe Pryor was as well. I remember thinking "they better have a substantial lead in the 4th quarter because these guys aren`t going to get rest. I think the lack of pass rush was a significant problem for our D at the end of the game, because we had gotten good pressure on Peyton until that point.

You may not be afraid of them, but the Pats sure are. As a life long Pats fan, I am certain that the Pats, if they play in Indy, will loose in the playoffs. And this time, I don't even think it will be close. The Pats need to bring in someone on the defense with an attitude. I would rather have Jerry Porter than the sheep we have now...