Brady defends Moss...

[DarrylS]

highlights of the D & C interview...do not see it posted yet on EEI.com

Brady pulls out all the stops in defense of Moss | ProFootballTalk.com

•The interception Brady threw in Moss' direction wasn't the receiver's fault: Moss went to the spot he thought the ball would be. "I don't think you can blame Randy on that one," Brady said.
•"Randy is one of the best players in the history of the NFL," Brady said. "When it doesn't go perfect out there, everyone wants to jump on Randy."
•Brady even went after Gamble: "I've seen plenty of plays made on Chris Gamble too over the course of the season.
•Brady said the Patriots have got plenty from Moss all year, citing his top statistics. "Every game-plan that the defense comes up with is trying to stop Randy Moss. They all say 'OK, we have to stop Randy Moss.'"
•On his relationship with Moss: "He is one of the favorite guys I've ever played with. He's one of my good friends on the team. I'm always trying to keep everyone motivated, whether it's the receivers or the offensive linemen

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[MoLewisrocks]

You have to listen to the audio to grasp all he said, and didn't say. Context. It was a tortured "defense" that bullits cannot quantify. Tom is fighting to keep him from checking out out altogether. He never really absolves him. He rationalizes. He likes him. He needs him. He has no choice.

BB faces an even more challenging task than his QB today, what does he do in film breakdown...gloss over it...tear into it like he would if it were anyone else...cancel the session altogether...

Good luck guys.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I heard the entire interview. It was embarrassing to listen to his defense of Moss. But it was hilarious later on in the interview when Brady talked about what it takes to be a leader and few if any of those qualities cited by Brady applies to Randy Moss.
But I do give credit to Brady for one thing, he's a very loyal dog owner.

 

[QB12]

Even before this recent bad patch, I noticed Brady and Moss don't appear as close to each other as they were in 2007, or even in training camp this past summer. Don't know exactly what is going on.

QB12

 

[BradyManny]

Even before this recent bad patch, I noticed Brady and Moss don't appear as close to each other as they were in 2007, or even in training camp this past summer. Don't know exactly what is going on.

QB12

I wouldn't agree with that - granted I was only at TC for one day, but they still seemed to be BFFs to me.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

You have to listen to the audio to grasp all he said, and didn't say. Context. It was a tortured "defense" that bullits cannot quantify. Tom is fighting to keep him from checking out out altogether. He never really absolves him. He rationalizes. He likes him. He needs him. He has no choice.

BB faces an even more challenging task than his QB today, what does he do in film breakdown...gloss over it...tear into it like he would if it were anyone else...cancel the session altogether...

Good luck guys.

Mo

It appears you need some downtime also. Step back, take a breath and relax.

This mirrors the Baltimore game where one first half roughing call becomes a national obsession.

It's amazing a team can win a game 20-10 and the talk of the industry is the poor play of one player on the winning team.

 

[emoney_33]

Even before this recent bad patch, I noticed Brady and Moss don't appear as close to each other as they were in 2007, or even in training camp this past summer. Don't know exactly what is going on.

QB12

Please tell me you didn't just judge their "closeness" based on a few shots a game of the sidelines on a TV feed? Please tell me you've been in the locker room or know them both personally or something, anything!

This is getting ridiculous, Moss does nothing but help the team that we all claim to love, yet many of you do nothing but dog the guy and hold him to ridiculously high standards.

All of his teammates are liars, Gamble is a genius and now let's pretend to know what is going on behind closed doors.

 

[QB12]

I wouldn't agree with that - granted I was only at TC for one day, but they still seemed to be BFFs to me.

They appeared close at training camp, as you observed, but not so much anymore.

QB12

 

[Rob0729]

Brady is never going to throw Moss under the bus publically no matter what he thinks. He starts to say Moss is dogging it or plays the no comment game, he could alienate both Moss and the rest of the lockerroom.

 

[resdubwhite]

i'm starting to believe that because Maroney is improving and with AD about to take some time picking splinters from his arse that Moss is the new target.

He is what he is, gifted and a little bit moody, which leads to some bad days.

Sometimes you have to get one to reap rewards from the other.

 

[TeamFirst]

I don't know if this is typical but Moss was the last reciever out of the tunnell in pregame warm ups. The other recievers were out there at least 20 minutes before he was.

He didn't look good yesterday. I saw 1 decent block at the beginning of the game after that it was all down hill.

 

[BradyManny]

They appeared close at training camp, as you observed, but not so much anymore.

QB12

Oh, sorry I completely misread your post - I had thought you were saying that they didn't have the chemistry/rapport back in TC.

 

[Kontradiction]

BB faces an even more challenging task than his QB today, what does he do in film breakdown...gloss over it...tear into it like he would if it were anyone else...cancel the session altogether...

Good luck guys.

My guess is going to be the second option. BB isn't going to change the way he coaches and has coached for a few decades because of Randy Moss. He let Moss know from the get-go that he wasn't going to be treated differently than anybody else.

 

[DarrylS]

Still wonder if Moss is hurt, and the back injury keeps him from moving easier... but we will never know that.. he looks like he is playing "stiff"...

 

[DaedalusX]

My guess is going to be the second option. BB isn't going to change the way he coaches and has coached for a few decades because of Randy Moss. He let Moss know from the get-go that he wasn't going to be treated differently than anybody else.

Then you have a different problem, which is that Brady is publicly defending Moss while Belichick is apparently disciplining him as if he was just any other guy on the team.

I think Belichick is a genius. But if he isn't taking Moss' emotional fragility into consideration this week, he's doing a terrible job of coaching his sort of player. Frankly, Dungy is right on this one. Bill screwed up.

 

[Kontradiction]

Then you have a different problem, which is that Brady is publicly defending Moss while Belichick is apparently disciplining him as if he was just any other guy on the team.

I think Belichick is a genius. But if he isn't taking Moss' emotional fragility into consideration this week, he's doing a terrible job of coaching his sort of player. Frankly, Dungy is right on this one. Bill screwed up.

And what was Brady supposed to say? "Yeah, he's dogging it. Terrible game he played. Moss looked pathetic". No. He's going to go the politically correct route. And, just my guess, but I'd venture to say that BB probably doesn't give a damn about what Tony Dungy thinks. That's just me, though...

 

[SVN]

Then you have a different problem, which is that Brady is publicly defending Moss while Belichick is apparently disciplining him as if he was just any other guy on the team.

I think Belichick is a genius. But if he isn't taking Moss' emotional fragility into consideration this week, he's doing a terrible job of coaching his sort of player. Frankly, Dungy is right on this one. Bill screwed up.

he will let moss know as he will let brady know for his miscues and INT and morris know for his fumbles and the merriweather for biting on the play leading to the TD and anyone else who screwed up. Dungy doesn't know how it will be handled and how the BB handles monday meetings every game or every yr. Lets not try to extrapolate what BB might do to he screwed up. If BB just ignores moss and ignores every one's mistakes in this week's game and says 'guys, just ignore the tape and lets move on to bills' then we can get wade phillips as our coach.

 

[DaedalusX]

And what was Brady supposed to say? "Yeah, he's dogging it. Terrible game he played. Moss looked pathetic". No. He's going to go the politically correct route.

You're wrong. When Brady is pissed with a teammate, or knows that that teammate is dogging it or really screwed up, he will say nothing or make very general comments everyone working hard. He has vigorously defended Moss today. He's doing that in the face of Moss being sent home early and the national media calling him a quitter. The difference is obvious.

And, just my guess, but I'd venture to say that BB probably doesn't give a damn about what Tony Dungy thinks. That's just me, though...

I don't recall saying Belichick should care what Dungy thinks. I said that I think Dungy was right. You should learn to read.

 

[Kontradiction]

You're wrong. When Brady is pissed with a teammate, or knows that that teammate is dogging it or really screwed up, he will say nothing or make very general comments everyone working hard. He has vigorously defended Moss today. He's doing that in the face of Moss being sent home early and the national media calling him a quitter. The difference is obvious.

Do you have hardcore, conclusive evidence of Brady being pissed off at teammates and, hence, acting like this? Concrete evidence outside of word of mouth or something being posted on here.

I don't recall saying Belichick should care what Dungy thinks. I said that I think Dungy was right. You should learn to read.

Apparently, you should as well. I don't recall saying that you said Belichick should care what he thinks. I only said that I (please take note that "I" means "me", and not "you") don't think Belichick will give a damn what he thinks.

 

[DaedalusX]

Do you have hardcore, conclusive evidence of Brady being pissed off at teammates and, hence, acting like this? Concrete evidence outside of word of mouth or something being posted on here.

Don't play stupid. You know the difference and have seen the difference over the years. Brady's temper is well known, as is the difference between his diplomacy in the face of disgust/disappointment and his defense of another player.

Apparently, you should as well. I don't recall saying that you said Belichick should care what he thinks. I only said that I (please take note that "I" means "me", and not "you") don't think Belichick will give a damn what he thinks.

Your insinuation was obvious. Perhaps if you weren't so quick to react you wouldn't be mashing the keyboard with irrelevant tangents. Belichick giving a damn or not had nothing to do with my point that Dungy was right. In the context of that predicate, your response was nonsensical.