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Revis is being respectful, he's just upset he feels like he isnt getting the credit he deserves.

Either way it wont matter what anyone says come Sunday. We'll see what happens then.

There's so many differences from Week 2 until now... (Jenkins gone, Welker back, Brady more comfortable and better chemistry with Moss again, etc)
 
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Revis is a top 3 corner, still think every corner gets over the top help from a safety more often then not. Hopefullly Moss has a good game..
 
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They really are a sooky bunch over there in the Meadowlands.
 
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OK, so whats the verdict guys? did he or did he not get help? who dvr'd it?
 
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i dont know about the whole game and every play but i know on the INT that revis got he was one on one with moss and he had moss coverd brady should have never thrown that ball
 
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Hard to believe, but here's a great write-up on PFT on the subject. Moss was favoured by the coverage almost constantly.

Definitely read the whole thing, pretty good get by the PFT crew.

Breaking down the Revis-Moss film from Week Two | ProFootballTalk.com

Excerpt:
"The Jets scheme typically was to have their corners be very aggressive with Moss at the line of scrimmage by jamming, rerouting, and using the sideline," the source said. "It appears that, throughout most of the game, there was a safety lingering over the top in some sort of zone.

"Most of the coverages were some sort of man under with the safeties playing zone over the top. This makes it easier for the corners because they can be more physical underneath with the receivers because they realize that someone is behind them covering the deep zone passes if the receiver gets behind. This is not a true double coverage, but it is generally understood that there is a good chance that a corner will have help down the field."

Also, Revis didn't draw Moss on every single play. In one instance, linebacker Bart Scott lined up over Moss in press coverage, with safety Jim Leonhard backing Scott up.

"A lot is just semantics and interpretation," the source said. "Were the Jets truly double covering Moss all over the field? No. Did they favor him on most plays? Yes."
 
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Find it hard to believe that people have so much time on their hands that they can make a nontroversy into a controversy...
 
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The scout's analysis of Brady, and the offense as a whole, was interesting, in that it deals with some issues that were hotly contested on the board at the time:

The source made a few other observations that could be relevant to Sunday's rematch.

"[Patriots quarterback Tom] Brady played like ****," the source said. "He was not accurate and appeared flustered. The game was early, he was coming off a knee [injury], and he is playing way better now."

The source also opined that the Pats' offensive game plan "sucked," pointing out that New England "did not really challenge down the field and the Jets were allowed to dictate the game on defense by doing what they wanted to do."

And then there's the fact that Moss has been playing of late like it's 1999.

"Moss looked slow" the source said of the Week Two performance. "I think his back may have been an issue. Or he was frustrated. He, too, is healthy now."

Latest News and Rumors | ProFootballTalk.com
 
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Lets not forget that Welker wasn't playing in week 2 so jets game plan changed by keying on Moss. Now we'll see. Watch for Moss to have different formations and lining up next to Welker. As for Bart he look at Sunday nite's film to see Moss sprinting across middle in stride of a deep Brady pass.
 
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I wish bart is farted away... :D
 
Jets' DC says that Revis had help covering Moss

From the Newark Star Ledger:

Jets defensive coordinator Mike Pettine may have inadvertently underminded cornerback Darrelle Revis' argument that he single-handedly shut down Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss in the first meeting of the teams in Week 2.

Moss caught just four passes for 24 yards in the Jets' 16-9 victory at Giants Stadium. Afterwards, Revis claimed victory, saying he shut down Moss by himself.

Moss, meanwhile, was unimpressed, saying Revis had help all game and it's easy to play defense that way.

This week, the battle has raged as the Jets prepare to meet the Patriots in a rematch on Sunday with Revis repeating his claim that he covered the ultra-dangerous Moss all by himself.

Moss has 58 catches for a league-high 891 yards and seven touchdowns this season.

Enter Pettine.

Asked Thursday how much of Revis' coverage of Moss in the first game was man-to-man, Pettine said:

"I don't have numbers. We mixed our coverages up a lot. You have to do that against New England. You can't give them one look. I can say this, we weren't in a lot of true cover zero (man-on-man) with no help. Nobody in the league is. Most teams in the league, I would be shocked if they averaged more than four or five snaps a game of straight man coverage with no help.''

There you have it.



NY Jets D-coordinator Mike Pettine says Darrelle Revis had help vs. Randy Moss | New York Jets - - NJ.com
 
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Pettine, ha, the token DC of the Jets. Rex calls all the plays, etc, Pettine is just a name.

However, I agree with him. I'm one of the few Jet fans who thinks Revis is a tad over-rated, and it was easy to see that Rhodes was helping him out at least 75% of the game.
 
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Revis definitely had help over the top, but so do other corners against Moss and they don't have the same success so I don't understand the big deal....nobody can cover Moss 1 on 1 and Revis is a top corner..simple as that
 
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Revis definitely had help over the top, but so do other corners against Moss and they don't have the same success so I don't understand the big deal....nobody can cover Moss 1 on 1 and Revis is a top corner..simple as that

If nobody can cover Moss 1-on-1, perhaps Revis should just shut up. :confused2:
 
Re: Jets' DC says that Revis had help covering Moss

Revis definitely had help over the top, but so do other corners against Moss and they don't have the same success so I don't understand the big deal....nobody can cover Moss 1 on 1 and Revis is a top corner..simple as that

Jets defensive coordinator confirms that Revis had help against Moss | ProFootballTalk.com

If you haven't noticed, Rob0729 brought it up. I'm giving you the link again in case you're still obtuse.
 
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I think that Revis is the best corner in the NFL. That said, no one can matchup against Moss one on one. He is that good of a SE. Without Welker lined up next to him, the defense was free to rotate safety help over the top to assist Revis. When you have the best Y and the best Z in the world lined up next to eachother, it is a pick your poison situation. If you roll the safety down to assist on the Y, obviously the Z is opened up, and vice versa.

This coverage is not effective in the colloquial sense when it comes to defending Moss. While he has lost a step or two since his prime, where he stands out from the crowd is his veteran skills. He reaches for the ball at the last second, baits corners with his stride length, and can compete for any football, regardless of how poorly it is thrown. The safety must be around the ball when it comes to the reciever in addition to the corner in order to defend Moss effectively. One guy needs to play the body, one guy needs to play the ball. If not, it's a caught ball 80% of the time. It's not a traditional bracket of the coverage dictating that the QB checks off, but one that can break up a pass with each defender taking a different responsibility. That is what causes the checkdown. With Welker back in the lineup, it should be interesting to see how Rex chooses to die on sunday.
 
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Jets DC says Revis had help with Moss..

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I can say this, we weren't in a lot of true cover zero [man-on-man] with no help. (jets dc)
 
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