Patriots and Colts reverse rivalry roles from 2001-2009

[maverick4]

1. One team used to have the sexy prolific offense which shot itself in the foot in big games, and got stopped in key moments when they needed to score or get a key conversion. The fans of the team were always convinced they out-played the opponent despite losing, and still thought they were the better team.

2. The other team knew how to stay around even when being outplayed, did not make mistakes that killed them, and made the key offensive and defensive plays that won the games. The team also battled adversity, whether it be injuries or using inexperienced players on offense or defense.

From 2001-2005, team 1 was the Colts and team 2 were the Patriots. Somewhere along the line, the teams have completely flipped in terms of character/personality, and from 05-09 the Colts have won 5 out of our last 6 matchups. Manning is in Belichick's head, a reverse from 01-05.

 

[crypto]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Maverick4,

Nobody cares. Your comparison has been made a thousand times before and it will be made a thousand times again.

Your conclusions are not clever. Your conclusions are not original. Your conclusions are not even accurate.

What are you hoping to gain from this thread?

 

[SoCal Pmen]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Everything except Supberbowls won. In the end, that's all that really counts.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Except for 2006, the Colts are the same Colts all decade. They are a great regular season team that gets smacked in the mouth in the playoffs. The last two years, the Colts were one and done in the playoffs. Exactly how is that reversing the roles?

In fact, the Pats have been to the Super Bowl more recently than the Colts.

 

[maverick4]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Nobody cares.
What are you hoping to gain from this thread?

Who peed in your milk bottle this morning?

 

[ALP]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

ok, but lets not forget that after 04, everytime we played the colts, we also played the refs...maybe tht has something do with it?

other than this last game, we really should have won last years game, and the AFCCG, and prob the reg season game in 06, but i dont remember it (if there even was one)

 

[letekro]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Maybe the lesson is as simple as this: good fortune evens out over time.

 

[upstater1]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Everything except Supberbowls won. In the end, that's all that really counts.

That's my reaction precisely.

Well, also that Brady has not been cowed by the Colts the way Manning was. I don't see Brady flipping his wig the way Manning used to.

The Patriots beat the Colts those years, but they also beat the Steelers twice.

Heck, the Patriots beating the Chargers ALLOWED the Colts to win it all.

Did the Colts do the Patriots any favors? I don't think so.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

I'll agree that this is a similar thread to last night, but we can't ignore the fact the Colts have had the Pats number since the rule change in '04. The Pats are 2-5 against the Colts since Polian cried a river. Don't get me wrong, I'm not using that as an excuse, more like an observation. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Colts really aren't that good, they just are able to beat the Pats. Even though I don't like the Colts, their schedule is so weak, don't be shocked if they go 16-0.

 

[maverick4]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

ok, but lets not forget that after 04, everytime we played the colts, we also played the refs...maybe tht has something do with it?

other than this last game, we really should have won last years game, and the AFCCG, and prob the reg season game in 06, but i dont remember it (if there even was one)

We shoulda, we coulda... bottom line the Colts have our number now, have taken 5 of the last 6 meetings.
Also, the Pats overcame any sort of ref bias in the first half of the decade, and it's not the reason we lost or keep losing to them.

 

[crypto]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Regarding Mav's post 10, that's a massive overstatement, and the analysis in the original post is so obscenely off base it isn't even worth the effort to disprove.

 

[maverick4]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

Regarding Mav's post 10, that's a massive overstatement, and the analysis in the original post is so obscenely off base it isn't even worth the effort to disprove.

How so?

Two posts now in this thread from you, and they both offer zero analysis, and only just garbage/vile.

 

[maverick4]

It looks like Ron Borges may read this forum, he already has a history of lifting material
Patriots face identity crisis - BostonHerald.com

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...tity-crisis-reminiscent-soft-colts-teams.html

 

[Yehoodi]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

ok, but lets not forget that after 04, everytime we played the colts, we also played the refs...maybe tht has something do with it?
other than this last game, we really should have won last years game, and the AFCCG, and prob the reg season game in 06, but i dont remember it (if there even was one)

bingo, we got hosed in the AFCCG '06, had the refs kept there hands in their pockets and not the flags, we win that game and probably a 4th SB, but more importantly it would of meant ZERO SBs for the colts . . .

we also had to fight the refs in regular season '07 when they handed us a franchise record in penalties, some of them were vaild tho, but some were not, it happened again in '08 with the key 3rd and 1 unneccesary roughness on D. Thomas that took us out of FG range and made it 3rd and 16. And this year with phanton PI on butler and not to mention the spot on FAulk catch, if we get the spot we win. So that is no less than the last 4 contests, we only were able to win one and likely would of won all 4 had the refs been neutral . . .

i don't buy the reversal of fortune until the colts beat up mano mano up front and with no help from the refs . . .

if you remember we beat them 4 straight times in 03-04 . . .

 

[Yehoodi]

Re: Patriots and Colts Reverse Roles from 2001-2009

We shoulda, we coulda... bottom line the Colts have our number now, have taken 5 of the last 6 meetings.
Also, the Pats overcame any sort of ref bias in the first half of the decade, and it's not the reason we lost or keep losing to them.

apparently you we out of the room when the games were on the television, nice try there sparky . . . .

 

[maverick4]

Your last post makes no sense. I said they OVERCAME it, not that it wasn't there. You need to slow down on the booze, the game hasn't even started yet.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

It looks like Ron Borges may read this forum, he already has a history of lifting material
Patriots face identity crisis - BostonHerald.com

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...tity-crisis-reminiscent-soft-colts-teams.html

Borges lifting my material isn't something any intelligent Patsfan would be pointing out...

 

[condon84]

Almost everyone outside of NE is aware of this. Welcome to reality.

Fortunately, or maybe, unfortunately, I live outside of NE so I am not in fantasy land.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Mav- I've seen you make this comparison at least 25 times. We get it. Everyone gets it. You've made your point, and we've elected not to care because it's a dumb point. Get over it.

 

[maverick4]

Almost everyone outside of NE is aware of this. Welcome to reality.

Fortunately, or maybe, unfortunately, I live outside of NE so I am not in fantasy land.

Try telling that to some of the posters here. They're living in la-la land taking shots of Kool-Aid, playing earmuffs whenever this topic comes up. By the way I hate that Borges took this idea and ran with it.